msi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, clarkey said: No idea who is making up the guidance for care homes, only restriction at the moment is masks indoors from Johnson, so not his fault that people cant see relatives Sigh. Let me spell it out for you. Care homes get guidance from the Department of Health The department of Health is a part of Government Who leads the Government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancTom Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Roman Roady said: I think that he is done now, it’s a question of when not if. It will be interesting to see how quickly they move. What do they think is coming down the line at us all in 2022? If they think it is a 5h1tshow then they will want him in post until 2023. If not he will be gone sooner. The question now is what other files will be released? They may have their hands forced! If I were him I’d resign and take them down with me. He’s probably going to get a knighthood out of this anyway so he might as well leave and earn some serious wonga to pay the family lawyers. I'm sure he knows which parties all the other cabinet ministers went to and may even have proof. Might explain why they support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancTom Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, kzb said: There is a policeman outside number 10 24/7. The police would've known full well what was going on. Security etc. Anyhow here is a question. People in number 10 are classed as essential workers and have to be physically present. Just like Asda. Was it against the law to have a workplace meeting for essential workers? I suspect not. So what law has been broken if the above is true? the same one Asda workers would have broken if their manager said lets go in the yard out back after work and bring your own booze? Clearly not a work meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, MancTom said: the same one Asda workers would have broken if their manager said lets go in the yard out back after work and bring your own booze? Clearly not a work meeting. If they say it's a work meeting then it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbathpc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, rollover said: Hey dude, what are you talking about? What aspect are you struggling with? Boris has ******ed up, and shouldn't have had a party. However if he resigns, that means we need to go through a lengthy tory leadership bid, full of uncertainty and instability. It also means we could end up with a point scoring lockdown fanatic PM. Look at Wales, they have Drakeford who is still banning runs in the park etc. Better the evil you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riedquat Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, clarkey said: Agreed the crime he committed was not reversing things quick enough. I think that is what the "parties" have shown obviously had his hand forced by lockdown loons Yep, but he's still the one at the top saying what the rules should be, so there's a great deal more onus on him to stick rigidly to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, cbathpc said: What aspect are you struggling with? Boris has ******ed up, and shouldn't have had a party. However if he resigns, that means we need to go through a lengthy tory leadership bid, full of uncertainty and instability. It also means we could end up with a point scoring lockdown fanatic PM. Look at Wales, they have Drakeford who is still banning runs in the park etc. Better the evil you know. LMFAO at least you Tory Populist part fanbois have moved on from saying 'yEaH bUt ImAgInE iF wE hAz JeReMy CoRbYnE!1!!!!111!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbathpc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said: LMFAO at least you Tory Populist part fanbois have moved on from saying 'yEaH bUt ImAgInE iF wE hAz JeReMy CoRbYnE!1!!!!111!' We won't get Corbyn. We will get another Tory, if Boris resigns we won't get a GE, we will have a tory leadership contest. What I'm saying is we could end up with someone worse. None of them have covered themselves in glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former postman Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, cbathpc said: We won't get Corbyn. We will get another Tory, if Boris resigns we won't get a GE, we will have a tory leadership contest. What I'm saying is we could end up with someone worse. None of them have covered themselves in glory. You don't get a worse or more incompetent PM than Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, imo. The UK has reached rock bottom in political terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, cbathpc said: We won't get Corbyn. We will get another Tory, if Boris resigns we won't get a GE, we will have a tory leadership contest. What I'm saying is we could end up with someone worse. None of them have covered themselves in glory. But Boris doesn't want to walk out, doesn't he? And that's the problem for Tories who want to get rid of him now. That's clearly not the case with you, you think very highly of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, cbathpc said: We won't get Corbyn. We will get another Tory, if Boris resigns we won't get a GE, we will have a tory leadership contest. What I'm saying is we could end up with someone worse. None of them have covered themselves in glory. A General Strike and a demand for a GE might do it, especially if the Tory Party divides along pro- and anti-Johnson lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insane Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, cbathpc said: Boris has ******ed up, and shouldn't have had a party. However if he resigns, that means we need to go through a lengthy tory leadership bid, full of uncertainty and instability. But we already have uncertainty and instability with Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, cbathpc said: We won't get Corbyn. We will get another Tory, if Boris resigns we won't get a GE, we will have a tory leadership contest. What I'm saying is we could end up with someone worse. None of them have covered themselves in glory. A five year old can tell if they've been to a party or not. ...and you think there is someone WORSE than BoJo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentingForever Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, clarkey said: Agreed the crime he committed was not reversing things quick enough. I think that is what the "parties" have shown obviously had his hand forced by lockdown loons A month previously, 6-9 April, he was in ICU with coronavirus and it was touch-and-go whether he would make it. I doubt if just four weeks later, when the party happened, he was anti-lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmax2020 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 PMQs was as depressing as ever. Caught red handed and all he did was repeat the same line about ‘waiting on the full enquiry’. That’s what guilty people say instead of proclaiming their innocence with factual detail. I don’t understand how he can admit he sat there for 2 or 3 minutes, let alone 25 without immediately saying to everyone in the garden… “Er guys where are the laptops and notepads? What’s the agenda here? Hang on - is that cheese and wine?!?! And why are you here Carrie?!?!” The photo wouldn’t exist if the man had a shred of integrity because he would’ve immediately shut it down having continually briefed the nation on how such gatherings were wholly prohibited. Thanks Boris though - you’re making the case for Scottish Independence even stronger! Notice how up here our Tories calling for his resignation. We may not agree on politics but we share the same values on common decency. I hold my hands up and say the lockdown wasn’t too bad for me. I had my work and family for which I was thankful. But the reality of millions of people cancelling their plans for the spring/summer to comply with the rules cuts deep. Millions of family gatherings, kids birthdays, days out, social events, funerals and weddings were all cancelled to comply with his instructions. None of us got those precious minutes with our families or colleagues to relax with a beer after a hard days work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Riedquat said: Yep, but he's still the one at the top saying what the rules should be, so there's a great deal more onus on him to stick rigidly to them. What this episode reveals is how his regime is run. If you set aside the staggering cognitive dissonance, I suspect he simply wanted his staff and colleagues to think what a fine fellow he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmax2020 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Imagine if the Tories get a decent vote share at the next election?! What does that say about the people United Kingdom?! I say UK because the Tories are detested up here in Scotland. If we didn’t a proportional representation system they’d currently be extinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, PeanutButter said: Get it now, apologising for not doing anything wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone59 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, msi said: A five year old can tell if they've been to a party or not. ...and you think there is someone WORSE than BoJo ? Yes. Starmer. Easily. I M O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, rollover said: But Boris doesn't want to walk out, doesn't he? And that's the problem for Tories who want to get rid of him now. That's clearly not the case with you, you think very highly of him. Of course not, he's got nice new wallpaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Bluestone59 said: Yes. Starmer. Easily. I M O. Thanks. I'll put you in the group with the clown, for turning Britain into a tin pot country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 No country wants to look like a global laughing stock, we have serious deals to do, already lost frost.....why did he decide to go at such an important time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbob Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Still 15 mins to resign in time for the 6 o'clock news. I'm not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Pmax2020 said: Imagine if the Tories get a decent vote share at the next election?! What does that say about the people United Kingdom?! I say UK because the Tories are detested up here in Scotland. If we didn’t a proportional representation system they’d currently be extinct. I'm trying to imagine it, ... no I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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