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  1. I try not to let feelings get in the way of rational debate. To say I am excited about a trade deal is somewhat exaggerated. I do however "feel" that these things will ultimately be to the good of the UK. They can be optimised for our interests instead of the interests of 28 very different countries. The Indian agreement reportedly will take off the 150% Indian import tariff on whiskey. 50% of the whiskey drunk in the world is drunk in India. Our Scots Nationalist "friends" perhaps should be excited about that one.
  2. It's certainly factual that the EU-NZ process started 2007. It's also factual that "scoping discussions" started 2016. Make of that what you will. On the food front not so sure. Yes the EU is a much bigger potential market than the UK but the import quotas as percentages of that market are miniscule. Ours are disappointingly small but they are not that small. Plus they will ramp up as the years go on. The other thing to watch is how long it takes for it to come into effect. The EU likes to announce these things years before they are an actual reality. Ours comes into effect next year.
  3. How will the agreement protect sensitive EU agricultural products? The agreement takes fully into account the interests of EU producers of sensitive agricultural products: several dairy products, beef and sheep meat, ethanol and sweetcorn. For these sectors, the agreement will allow zero or lower tariff imports from New Zealand only in limited amounts (through so-called Tariff Rate Quota). This strikes the right balance: New Zealand exports will not put at risk the EU market through unlimited imports in sensitive sectors. For example, the TRQ for beef is only 0.15% of EU consumption and the quotas negotiated for butter, cheeses and milk powder from New Zealand represent 0.71%, 0.27% and 1.30% of EU consumption respectively. https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-country-and-region/countries-and-regions/new-zealand/eu-new-zealand-agreement/agreement-explained_en#consumers
  4. They only did this because we did ! It's taken them 15 years to get this far, whereas we did it in about 18 months. The fact that we got on with it made the EU get off their bottoms and start taking an interest again. If we hadn't done it, NZ would still be waiting for its FTA with the EU. Also, the fact that it is only twice the size of the UK deal, given the EU/UKpopulation ratio is much larger than that, means that it is suspiciously small. As you know I was bemoaning the miserably small quotas in the early years of the UK-NZ deal, so the EU quotas are likely even smaller per capita.
  5. So are you not concerned for the finances of those EU farmers? What about hormone beef in the EU? You all seem very quiet on that score, but you all had immense concern over those factors with the UK-NZ deal. Why is that?
  6. I'm sure there will be yet more rounds of the same arguments coming very soon. Save it for then.
  7. The driver for posting this here was to keep it handy for the never-ending pensioner hating arguments on this forum, not to start a discussion on it in this thread. There are a few other plots I need to re-find and post here also.
  8. Two interesting data sources for that minority that are interested in facts: (1) Fiscal Challenges Facing an Independent Scotland March 2021 https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/taxpayersalliance/pages/17243/attachments/original/1616142720/Fiscal_challenges_facing_an_independent_Scotland.pdf?1616142720 (2) Public spending by country and region 14 December 2021 https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04033/
  9. No. I've a vague idea there is a Scot in the ancestry somewhere but it was many generations back. There is a Scots relative on my wife's side but he's been in England for over 50 years. He's dead against the SNP. Whenever I've been to Scotland I have always found the people friendly and pleasant, although I must say my experience of Glasgow is limited to one walk through the city centre. Perhaps if I stayed overnight I would get a different impression. However from my experience elsewhere in Scotland I don't recognise where this hostility is coming from.
  10. You'd have your own right of centre party which would be Tories in all but name. As you are saying here in fact. Hang on you know what the figures are. Unless you mean get a fraction ON TOP back ? On TV the other day they said they were keeping the monarchy. If so are you going to pay your share towards it? A lot of us are tired of paying for BBC propaganda also. What are you getting instead and how will it be funded? Has that been thought through ?
  11. So there you go, the Scots took US over. I thought so. Still, it doesn't seem very nice to me that you want independence for Scotland so that you can leave it more easily.
  12. So you want to separate Scotland, so that you can live and work in Germany ? Bear in mind many Scots need subtitles to be understood in England. Good luck with Europe.
  13. It's ludicrous to want to take back control, and then join an organisation whose very purpose is to integrate its members into a super state.
  14. 47 years is not long compared to 315 years. I am giving you a more long term balanced view. Things can change over just 47 years. You do realise that joining the EU will cost your government money don't you? Or are you under the misapprehension that the EU will rescue you with money?
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