Brexit What Happens Next Thread ---multiple merged threads.

[Staffsknot]

33 minutes ago, coypondboy said:

If only Lord Nelson had a relative in the current navy (In the US he would be called Horatio Nelson the 5th) we could find him useful as the French plan to close the channel tunnel for christmas over a few fishing licences

Not really as the son of Henry V was crap so kinda blows the notion its genetics.

Also the closest in style we had to Nelson recently was Admiral Beatty and he kinda cost the lives of a shedload of sailors at Jutland by doing things his way.

Finally any naval or any military personnel in modern times would look at the notion they would use warships on civilian vessels as a wet dream of a fantasist and probably the job of the police and fisheries protection.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Staffsknot

[coypondboy]

7 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

Not really as the son of Henry V was crap so kinda blows the notion its genetics.

Also the closest in style we had to Nelson recently was Admiral Beatty and he kinda cost the lives of a shedload of sailors at Jutland by doing things his way.

Finally any naval or any military personnel in modern times would look at the notion they would use warships on civilian vessels as a wet dream of a fantasist and probably the job of the police and fisheries protection.

We had the coastguard protection vessel anchored up in poole marina last week probably stocking up on fuel and provisions ready to take on the french fisherman later this month or to pick up any refugees stupid eneough to try going from cherbourg to poole although can see a few trying their luck in gurnsey or jersey next year as they tighten up launching further up the coast.

[Staffsknot]

1 minute ago, coypondboy said:

We had the coastguard protection vessel anchored up in poole marina last week probably stocking up on fuel and provisions ready to take on the french fisherman later this month or to pick up any refugees stupid eneough to try going from cherbourg to poole although can see a few trying their luck in gurnsey or jersey next year as they tighten up launching further up the coast.

If you think 'take on the French' is what is happening you've been reading too many of the papers that think they are Battle Magazine and get excited by the thought of Waterloo.

Its all very exciting for schoolboys but the truth is very different - the coastguard will most likely observe proceedings with a cuppa, its not cutlasses and prepare to be boarded.

[14stFlyer]

3 hours ago, dugsbody said:

🤣

I do get a laugh out of your pretend neutral posts.

Happy to be spreading some joy dugs!

[AThirdWay]

1 hour ago, coypondboy said:

We had the coastguard protection vessel anchored up in poole marina last week probably stocking up on fuel and provisions ready to take on the french fisherman later this month or to pick up any refugees stupid eneough to try going from cherbourg to poole although can see a few trying their luck in gurnsey or jersey next year as they tighten up launching further up the coast.

Step awayyy from the Commando books man! What do you think they're going to do, sweep the decks with the Geep? It's the coastguard FFS. They're gonna get out their phones and film the French boats doing exactly what they want to do!

[MARTINX9]

On 29/11/2021 at 15:55, yelims said:

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/opinion/russia-bought-brexit/
 

Russia bought Brexit

Putin’s Brexit: the greatest affront in recent British socio-political history, as British politicians adopt some of Russia's tactics.

 

Do resident kgb employees have a comment?😂

Trump also won the 2020 US election which was 'rigged'.....

In the real world of course most Brits just wanted to leave the EU!

[IMHAL]

52 minutes ago, MARTINX9 said:

Trump also won the 2020 US election which was 'rigged'.....

In the real world of course most Brits just wanted to leave the EU!

Based on a few expectations.

What was promised to secure Brexit..... and.....the reality !!!

https://www.politico.eu/article/15-things-uk-vote-leave-promised-on-brexit-and-what-it-got/

[DarkHorseWaits-NoMore]

It's quite astonishing the amount of foreign meddling directly in our so called democratic processes, for decades that is never spoken about. Specifically from the US, Israel and a certain Australian media baron, not to mention corporate interests that do not align with the good of the public citizens. But hey, focusing on just the Russian connections is rather convenient given the real reason for Brexit, wouldn't you say? As usual, follow the money.

 

On 29/11/2021 at 15:55, yelims said:

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/opinion/russia-bought-brexit/
 

Russia bought Brexit

Putin’s Brexit: the greatest affront in recent British socio-political history, as British politicians adopt some of Russia's tactics.

 

Do resident kgb employees have a comment?😂

 

 

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

3 hours ago, MARTINX9 said:

Trump also won the 2020 US election which was 'rigged'.....

In the real world of course most Brits just wanted to leave the EU!

Which Brex_hit benefits being outside the EU are you currently enjoying bud?

[IMHAL]

9 hours ago, DarkHorseWaits-NoMore said:

It's quite astonishing the amount of foreign meddling directly in our so called democratic processes, for decades that is never spoken about. Specifically from the US, Israel and a certain Australian media baron, not to mention corporate interests that do not align with the good of the public citizens. But hey, focusing on just the Russian connections is rather convenient given the real reason for Brexit, wouldn't you say? As usual, follow the money.

 

 

 

It's more a case of all those actors involved had a good reason to want Brexit. A disrupted UK is a weakened UK both economically and politically. That's a situation that leads to the potential for gain and advantage...and as you say, not for the citizens, but for the actors. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by IMHAL

[rollover]

Santa Claus shortage

 

[hotblack42]

Googling 'why are remainers so bitter' it reveals masses of angry essays either written directly alleging all sorts of drawbacks, or in a very unamusing 'ironic' style about the 'benefits'.

What a bunch of tits wasting time writing stuff people who are getting on with their lives will not see, or will ignore.

Cue accusations of being an arch Brexiter, despite repeated efforts to post balanced views & see both sides.

BTW - not much in this thread about 'what happens next' amongst all the boring, repetitive off topic posts about why Brexit was a bad idea.

The thread isn't called 'Everything wrong with Brexit'.  Please start a separate thread where people who are interested in that subject can go.

Finally, things go wrong in human affairs.  Stop attributing all novel challenges to Brexit.  Its just silly.

Edited December 3, 2021 by hotblack42
Don't post when you're cross!

[Staffsknot]

22 minutes ago, hotblack42 said:

Googling 'why are remainers so bitter' it reveals masses of angry essays either written directly alleging all sorts of drawbacks, or in a very unamusing 'ironic' style about the 'benefits'.

What a bunch of tits wasting time writing stuff people who are getting on with their lives will not see, or will ignore.

Cue accusations of being an arch Brexiter, despite repeated efforts to post balanced views & see both sides.

BTW - not much in this thread about 'what happens next' amongst all the boring, repetitive off topic posts about why Brexit was a bad idea.

The thread isn't called 'Everything wrong with Brexit'.  Please start a separate thread where people who are interested in that subject can go.

Finally, things go wrong in human affairs.  Stop attributing all novel challenges to Brexit.  Its just silly.

You know Google is a search engine - if you put crap terms in you get crap out. Why did you waste your day doing that to reinforce your already established view.

Same could be asked of why are there so many angry Brexit monkeys posting to YT and supporting Gbeebies on Twitter and any hint of a comments section on an article.

Finally most folks haven't just got on with their lives they are having daily impacts from it - that's why the papers are able to run stories about it still. 

Now you have repeatedly said you voted out to keep 'your boys out of a European war' despite NATO putting them on the hook if we went that route. That kind of hints at not thinking it through properly - a bit like your Google search rant

[byron78]

12 hours ago, DarkHorseWaits-NoMore said:

It's quite astonishing the amount of foreign meddling directly in our so called democratic processes, for decades that is never spoken about. Specifically from the US, Israel and a certain Australian media baron, not to mention corporate interests that do not align with the good of the public citizens. But hey, focusing on just the Russian connections is rather convenient given the real reason for Brexit, wouldn't you say? As usual, follow the money.

 

 

 

What about all the other historic corruption?

Well quite.

But that doesn't mean we should dismiss and ignore the greatest threat to European democracy I've seen since Hitler either.

Putin and Russia are very clearly meddling all over the place. Obviously needs sorting.

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by byron78

[byron78]

2 hours ago, IMHAL said:

It's more a case of all those actors involved had a good reason to want Brexit. A disrupted UK is a weakened UK both economically and politically. That's a situation that leads to the potential for gain and advantage...and as you say, not for the citizens, but for the actors. 

It's very obviously been playing out like that as well.

I don't know any ordinary citizen richer for Brexit so far.

 

[Bruce Banner]

6 minutes ago, byron78 said:

What about all the other historic corruption?

Well quite.

But that doesn't mean we should dismiss and ignore the greatest threat to European democracy I've seen since Hitler either.

Putin and Russia are very clearly meddling all over the place. Obviously needs sorting.

 

By that you mean BJ? If so, I concur absolutely.

[winkie]

.... none so blind as those that will not see.

[pig]

1 hour ago, hotblack42 said:

Googling 'why are remainers so bitter' it reveals masses of angry essays either written directly alleging all sorts of drawbacks, or in a very unamusing 'ironic' style about the 'benefits'.

What a bunch of tits wasting time writing stuff people who are getting on with their lives will not see, or will ignore.

Cue accusations of being an arch Brexiter, despite repeated efforts to post balanced views & see both sides.

BTW - not much in this thread about 'what happens next' amongst all the boring, repetitive off topic posts about why Brexit was a bad idea.

The thread isn't called 'Everything wrong with Brexit'.  Please start a separate thread where people who are interested in that subject can go.

Finally, things go wrong in human affairs.  Stop attributing all novel challenges to Brexit.  Its just silly.

Well yes - the thread is ‘Brexit what happened next’ [after people voted for it]. 
By the sounds of it after believing politicians, what happened next was many Leavers indulged in mind-bending cognitive dissonance.

[byron78]

1 hour ago, Bruce Banner said:

By that you mean BJ? If so, I concur absolutely.

😉

[IMHAL]

2 hours ago, byron78 said:

It's very obviously been playing out like that as well.

I don't know any ordinary citizen richer for Brexit so far.

 

This guy is doing quite well since Brexit. Thankfully his lifetime care costs will be capped at ~£80k, which is the same as anyone on minimum wage living in a flat/two-up two-down. Remember, we are all in it together!

He has amassed a significant fortune: his estimated net worth in 2016 was from £55 million to £150 million, including his wife's expected inheritance. Moving into politics, he unsuccessfully contested the 1997 and 2001 general elections before being elected as the MP for North East Somerset in 2010.

 

[coypondboy]

19 hours ago, AThirdWay said:

Step awayyy from the Commando books man! What do you think they're going to do, sweep the decks with the Geep? It's the coastguard FFS. They're gonna get out their phones and film the French boats doing exactly what they want to do!

they might be training with the guys from the SBS just down the road as they were all out on manoveres yesterday off old harry's rocks

[Staffsknot]

37 minutes ago, coypondboy said:

they might be training with the guys from the SBS just down the road as they were all out on manoveres yesterday off old harry's rocks

You think that the SBS will be deployed with the coastguard... step away from the Steven Seagal movie collection, go outside, experience fresh air.

The coastguard are search & rescue only and don't carry military personnel - its considered neutral white fleet. The SBS wouldn't be anywhere near them and why would they need to - they have access to better kit in the RN.

It's like suggesting 22 sqdrn hitch a ride with Eddie Stobart

Edited December 3, 2021 by Staffsknot

[hotblack42]

4 hours ago, pig said:

 what happened next was many Leavers indulged in mind-bending cognitive dissonance.

Well at least that's referring to what happened next, & I reckon you are right about many who voted leave.  Lots of others though are completely content with the outcome, including some 'intellectuals'. Old article but sadly still relevant:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/brexit-remain-leave-treating-like-six-years-old-theresa-may-decision-a8602761.html

[hotblack42]

6 hours ago, Staffsknot said:

Why did you waste your day

? It took 5 minutes to see the acres of angry remainer BS.

6 hours ago, Staffsknot said:

angry Brexit monkeys

Why are you so consumed with contempt for people not in your tribe?  Not that anyone cares..

Well I'm getting on with my life.  Our immediate family net wealth is up 6 figures since Brexit.  I don't think that's because of Brexit,  any more than I think its despite it.

People make too much of Brexit, its just something to factor in.

I think that what happens next is we'll come to an accommodation with Europe over a long period, conduct a lot more non EU trade & generally adapt.  Its a waste of time dwelling on what might have been.

Some individuals for whom the EU worked very we'll in their personal and/or proffesional lives will have a diminished outlook for the rest of their lives.  Stuff happens.

Edited December 3, 2021 by hotblack42

[winkie]

18 hours ago, DarkHorseWaits-NoMore said:

It's quite astonishing the amount of foreign meddling directly in our so called democratic processes, for decades that is never spoken about. Specifically from the US, Israel and a certain Australian media baron, not to mention corporate interests that do not align with the good of the public citizens. But hey, focusing on just the Russian connections is rather convenient given the real reason for Brexit, wouldn't you say? As usual, follow the money.

 

 

 

Brexit like almost everything else is about the money......that or control.....divide and conquer will mean smaller and more controllable......strength in numbers.

 

Many that voted to take back control, maybe felt they were not in enough control of their life, and brexit would cure it?