Bruce Banner Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, richmondtw said: I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English. Well bully for you... Engerland.. Engerland... Engerland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, richmondtw said: Remoaners will continue to be fanatically obsessed with their dislike for this project that goes against their desire for a homogenised socialist federal Europe. However all that matters is a vote that took place in summer 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmondtw Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, Bruce Banner said: Well bully for you... Engerland.. Engerland... Engerland... Is that meant to bother me then? You can make childish rude comments hiding behind a pc screen. Big man - well done. I am proud of my country and it's history. If you are not I do not care less. The difference between you so called liberals and myself is that I appreciate we do not all have to be the same and everyone is entitled to hold their own opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, richmondtw said: Is that meant to bother me then? You can make childish rude comments hiding behind a pc screen. Big man - well done. I am proud of my country and it's history. If you are not I do not care less. The difference between you so called liberals and myself is that I appreciate we do not all have to be the same and everyone is entitled to hold their own opinion. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 hours ago, richmondtw said: Remoaners will continue to be fanatically obsessed with their dislike for this project that goes against their desire for a homogenised socialist federal Europe. However all that matters is a vote that took place in summer 2016. Why do you think Clement Attlee, Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn were always against the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 25/04/2020 at 15:51, Bruce Banner said: It's all about foreigners to Brexiteers . Well I'm not a foreigner but I feel more European than British. Do you put milk in your tea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, debtlessmanc said: Do you put milk in your tea? Interesting test Builders or Lapsang Souchong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 21 hours ago, richmondtw said: Remoaners will continue to be fanatically obsessed with their dislike for this project that goes against their desire for a homogenised socialist federal Europe. However all that matters is a vote that took place in summer 2016. It looks like this thread has two simultaneous conversations going on at once. 1. (leave idiots / remain morons) (delete as appropriate) are wrong and stupid 2. What happens next I am actually quite interested in the "what happens next bit", I occasionally travel outside the UK and so I will be interested to know about issues such as international driving licenses, health cover, etc. I also travel between Britain and Northern Ireland and will be interested to find out about how the practicalities of that work out - if I truck a consignment from Glasgow via Troon - Larne - Newry - Dublin, what are the practical implications? Or indeed if I truck a load from Newry - Dublin - Holyhead - Birmingham. How does that work? I also organise deliveries inwards and outwards to various places around the world, what do I need to know? Hint - nothing has changed yet, in practical terms we don't "leave" until Jan 2021 on current timetable, but even that is not definite. It's not over yet! Everything is still to play for! Will there be an extension? Will there be no deal? Will the whole thing be quietly cancelled? I haven't a clue! This site is meant to be for discussing the economy "ahead of the curve"... whatever happens in January it seems a bit blinkered to say "it has happened, nothing to see here, move along" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, erat_forte said: It looks like this thread has two simultaneous conversations going on at once. 1. (leave idiots / remain morons) (delete as appropriate) are wrong and stupid 2. What happens next I am actually quite interested in the "what happens next bit", I occasionally travel outside the UK and so I will be interested to know about issues such as international driving licenses, health cover, etc. I also travel between Britain and Northern Ireland and will be interested to find out about how the practicalities of that work out - if I truck a consignment from Glasgow via Troon - Larne - Newry - Dublin, what are the practical implications? Or indeed if I truck a load from Newry - Dublin - Holyhead - Birmingham. How does that work? I also organise deliveries inwards and outwards to various places around the world, what do I need to know? Hint - nothing has changed yet, in practical terms we don't "leave" until Jan 2021 on current timetable, but even that is not definite. It's not over yet! Everything is still to play for! Will there be an extension? Will there be no deal? Will the whole thing be quietly cancelled? I haven't a clue! This site is meant to be for discussing the economy "ahead of the curve"... whatever happens in January it seems a bit blinkered to say "it has happened, nothing to see here, move along" Agreed. A lot hinges on the border between Ireland and the UK, where is it going to be and how will it be managed? I think there is little doubt that the UK government does not want to extend the transition period, which has to be done before the end of June, but will they get away with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smash Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 hours ago, richmondtw said: I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English. Given that every single person in the world has to be born somewhere every single person in the world is as special as you. There is nothing special about being European, British or English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurlerontheditch Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 hours ago, richmondtw said: Is that meant to bother me then? You can make childish rude comments hiding behind a pc screen. Big man - well done. I am proud of my country and it's history. If you are not I do not care less. The difference between you so called liberals and myself is that I appreciate we do not all have to be the same and everyone is entitled to hold their own opinion. you probably don't know your history if you got taught it in an English school..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 29/04/2020 at 09:18, richmondtw said: I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English. Modern England is the result of the successful Dutch invasion to overthrow James II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 29/04/2020 at 10:21, richmondtw said: Remoaners will continue to be fanatically obsessed with their dislike for this project that goes against their desire for a homogenised socialist federal Europe. However all that matters is a vote that took place in summer 2016. You won! We have left the EU! Paradise is here, and you now own a lovely big house and have a wife who loves and respects you. Be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, smash said: Given that every single person in the world has to be born somewhere every single person in the world is as special as you. There is nothing special about being European, British or English. ahahahaha triggered Not a mention of the word special, yet you had to insert it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 29/04/2020 at 10:16, Bruce Banner said: Lol On 29/04/2020 at 10:02, Bruce Banner said: Very much booty blasted. Let me guess...refugees welcome, hope not hate, no person is illegal, green energy and it's her turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smash Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, Locke said: ahahahaha triggered Not a mention of the word special, yet you had to insert it in there. Triggered, what you on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Locke said: Very much booty blasted. Let me guess...refugees welcome, hope not hate, no person is illegal, green energy and it's her turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 14 hours ago, smash said: Given that every single person in the world has to be born somewhere every single person in the world is as special as you. There is nothing special about being European, British or English. Almost no one thinks they are special being born somewhere other than in the sense that they desire to defend local cultural norms. It is called "diversity" in other situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 13 hours ago, thecrashingisles said: Modern England is the result of the successful Dutch invasion to overthrow James II. Ha ha straight back at the ignorant xenophobic thicko. Let's see what he replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said: Ha ha straight back at the ignorant xenophobic thicko. Let's see what he replies. If he knows his history - he will point out that it was a bloodless invasion and thst the london merchants wanted William to take charge and bring the new fangled stock exchange idea with him that they had noticed was working really well over there. I am not sure what all this “nationalism is nonsense as vindaloo is the national dish” trope is. The uk (like Japan) is very successful at taking ideas from other cultures that suit it, either in cuisine, finance, language or otherwise. Long may that continue. Edited May 1, 2020 by debtlessmanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouch Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said: Ha ha straight back at the ignorant xenophobic thicko. Let's see what he replies. Let me reply instead. The quote was: " Modern England is the result of the successful Dutch invasion to overthrow James II." In reply to: "I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English." He is talking about culture not history. Culture is vernacular and developes over centuries, indeed thousands of years; it is a combination of custom; social habits; language; food and a thousand and one different factors. And the mere fact that a Dutch invasion had an effect on our history and by implication that culture is susceptible to influence from abroad is simply nugatory; we are a maritime nation, not a closed society. Most countries have their own culture. This does not mean that they are ipso facto xenphobic - although they may be - it just means they are different, which is in fact a statement of the bleedin' obvious. As someone who only posts to insult and belittle, these subtleties are of course beyond you. Edited May 1, 2020 by crouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 9 hours ago, debtlessmanc said: Almost no one thinks they are special being born somewhere other than in the sense that they desire to defend local cultural norms. It is called "diversity" in other situations. Defend from what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, crouch said: Let me reply instead. The quote was: " Modern England is the result of the successful Dutch invasion to overthrow James II." In reply to: "I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English." He is talking about culture not history. Culture is vernacular and developes over centuries, indeed thousands of years; it is a combination of custom; social habits; language; food and a thousand and one different factors. And the mere fact that a Dutch invasion had an effect on our history and by implication that culture is susceptible to influence from abroad is simply nugatory; we are a maritime nation, not a closed society. Most countries have their own culture. This does not mean that they are ipso facto xenphobic - although they may be - it just means they are different, which is in fact a statement of the bleedin' obvious. As someone who only posts to insult and belittle, these subtleties are of course beyond you. The problem is not having his/her own local culture. The problem is that someone people think their culture is somehow superior to others, which gives them a right to suppress/control/reject other cultures and make some territorial claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, crouch said: Let me reply instead. The quote was: " Modern England is the result of the successful Dutch invasion to overthrow James II." In reply to: "I do not. My culture as an Englishman is totally different to any in Europe or even Britain. I respect all the European nations but I do not feel in any way European. I am not British I am English." He is talking about culture not history. Culture is vernacular and developes over centuries, indeed thousands of years; it is a combination of custom; social habits; language; food and a thousand and one different factors. And the mere fact that a Dutch invasion had an effect on our history and by implication that culture is susceptible to influence from abroad is simply nugatory; we are a maritime nation, not a closed society. Most countries have their own culture. This does not mean that they are ipso facto xenphobic - although they may be - it just means they are different, which is in fact a statement of the bleedin' obvious. As someone who only posts to insult and belittle, these subtleties are of course beyond you. In my opinion that poster had a definite agenda. These are his posts that sandwich the one you quoted. https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/210294-brexit-what-happens-next-thread-multiple-merged-threads/&do=findComment&comment=1103569971 https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/210294-brexit-what-happens-next-thread-multiple-merged-threads/&do=findComment&comment=1103569975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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