msi Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Wanted to keep track of the big payrises coming through as we all know the Elites can't stand workers earning more, so will lean on the BOE to jack up IRs. British Airways staff call off Heathrow strike after 13% pay rise deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, msi said: Wanted to keep track of the big payrises coming through as we all know the Elites can't stand workers earning more, so will lean on the BOE to jack up IRs. British Airways staff call off Heathrow strike after 13% pay rise deal But are IRs going to be raised to have a meaningful effect on inflation? I doubt it as they will "see through it" or whatever phrase they tend to use. As long as cheaper migrant labour isn't brought back in the elites it's hard for them to control private sector pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessNutNut Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, msi said: Wanted to keep track of the big payrises coming through as we all know the Elites can't stand workers earning more, so will lean on the BOE to jack up IRs. British Airways staff call off Heathrow strike after 13% pay rise deal After a 10% cut, they got an 8% raise + some add-ons. Even if it was a real 13% raise, it would only take them to 1.7% above their pre-pandemic pay. I'm not sure I'd call that a big win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, nightowl said: But are IRs going to be raised to have a meaningful effect on inflation? I doubt it as they will "see through it" or whatever phrase they tend to use. As long as cheaper migrant labour isn't brought back in the elites it's hard for them to control private sector pay. Good point. Lucky the Tories don't have anyone who is linked to one of the largest outsourcing companies in India. Oh wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave New World Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, PrincessNutNut said: After a 10% cut, they got an 8% raise + some add-ons. Even if it was a real 13% raise, it would only take them to 1.7% above their pre-pandemic pay. I'm not sure I'd call that a big win. Wife is an NHS nurse..... She would be over the moon with that. Not that this is typical UK 'how dare they' mindset. Two sub 3% pay rises in ten years and a now sub 5% proposed. They need to strike. But yeah, Tory clowns clapping like seals for photo ops means so much more....good job my far less important job helps pay the bills...and buy her a work laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, msi said: Wanted to keep track of the big payrises coming through as we all know the Elites can't stand workers earning more, so will lean on the BOE to jack up IRs. British Airways staff call off Heathrow strike after 13% pay rise deal 31 minutes ago, PrincessNutNut said: After a 10% cut, they got an 8% raise + some add-ons. Even if it was a real 13% raise, it would only take them to 1.7% above their pre-pandemic pay. I'm not sure I'd call that a big win. BBC have edited the article to an 8% rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessNutNut Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Brave New World said: Two sub 3% pay rises in ten years and a now sub 5% proposed. They need to strike. That's the issue - and most people are in the same boat. Even adjusting pay by actual annually wouldn't keep real pay up with inflation. You'd have to link the tax limits to the index as well to sustain income levels long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed1987 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Brave New World said: Wife is an NHS nurse..... She would be over the moon with that. Not that this is typical UK 'how dare they' mindset. Two sub 3% pay rises in ten years and a now sub 5% proposed. They need to strike. But yeah, Tory clowns clapping like seals for photo ops means so much more....good job my far less important job helps pay the bills...and buy her a work laptop. Mine is a nurse also, but being honest, they just don't have the backbone to actually strike and are held prisoners by ethics. The RCN are useless and deceitful, the reality is the public simply don't want to pay for heath services. So, they'll just end up with even worse health outcomes and never seeing their GP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Speed1987 said: Mine is a nurse also, but being honest, they just don't have the backbone to actually strike and are held prisoners by ethics. The RCN are useless and deceitful, the reality is the public simply don't want to pay for heath services. So, they'll just end up with even worse health outcomes and never seeing their GP... If you ask neutrally, the public are sympathetic to funding and paying NHS staff more. In the days of the coalition IIRC there was even talk of adding 1 or 2p to income tax 'ring fenced' for the NHS openly discussed. The problem is that a vocal section of the UK immediately start screaming the soundbites of 'NHS bloat' and 'overpaid nurses' using salary spines as 'hidden' increases. You can see the posts by the usual squad here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed1987 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, msi said: If you ask neutrally, the public are sympathetic to funding and paying NHS staff more. In the days of the coalition IIRC there was even talk of adding 1 or 2p to income tax 'ring fenced' for the NHS openly discussed. The problem is that a vocal section of the UK immediately start screaming the soundbites of 'NHS bloat' and 'overpaid nurses' using salary spines as 'hidden' increases. You can see the posts by the usual squad here. I don't agree that the public are 'sympathetic', far from it. I've worked in the NHS myself and have vowed to never return. The public are unrealistic and generally disrespectful to medical staff. The government have underfunded the NHS for some time now, outcomes for patients are much poorer now than in 2010. The government will just manipulate statics to give the appearance things are better or improving, but there much worse. The public are angry, why should GPs get a raise when I can't even get an appointment... Nhs staff are lazy and have gold plated pensions. Argghhh, I could discuss this for hours, but tbh I feel the public are hanging themselves with this one. Edited July 22, 2022 by Speed1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, Speed1987 said: Mine is a nurse also, but being honest, they just don't have the backbone to actually strike and are held prisoners by ethics. Most do the job because they are compassionate people and they know the emotional blackmail card will be played if they strike . When I was a fireman I voted against strike action as I knew the public would be at risk if I did , fortunately we didn't go on strike but chose a work to rule instead which just created a backlog of duties and didn't pressure employers. I think a General Strike is the only option to deal with these basturds as they won't stop until all hard won rights have been removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Lucky Larry said: Most do the job because they are compassionate people and they know the emotional blackmail card will be played if they strike . When I was a fireman I voted against strike action as I knew the public would be at risk if I did , fortunately we didn't go on strike but chose a work to rule instead which just created a backlog of duties and didn't pressure employers. I think a General Strike is the only option to deal with these basturds as they won't stop until all hard won rights have been removed aka 'modernised' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars gives factory workers pay award of up to 17.6% to avert strikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Two unions in Scotland accept improved pay offer for nurses The offer, if implemented, will see NHS workers given an average 7.5% pay uplift for 2022-23, equating in pay rises ranging from £2,205 to £2,751, depending on pay band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 We’re doing a 1k COL payment for everyone under 65k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotblack42 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64001956 Workers at luxury carmaker Rolls-Royce have secured a pay deal worth 17.6%, unions say, averting the possibility of industrial action. About 1,200 workers at the firm's plant in West Sussex will receive a 10% pay rise and one-off bonus of £2,000. Nice, this will help push wages up in the Chichester area. And less than 30 min drive away from us along the A27. Will keep an eye on them to see if they need any intermittent IT or risk management consultancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 18:25, Speed1987 said: Mine is a nurse also, but being honest, they just don't have the backbone to actually strike and are held prisoners by ethics. The RCN are useless and deceitful, the reality is the public simply don't want to pay for heath services. So, they'll just end up with even worse health outcomes and never seeing their GP... If the govt invested "National insurance" in eg a soveriegn wealth fund, we would not have a problem. Old people feel they have paid NI to get a health service, no govt of any party has ever told them the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 18:49, Speed1987 said: I don't agree that the public are 'sympathetic', far from it. I've worked in the NHS myself and have vowed to never return. The public are unrealistic and generally disrespectful to medical staff. The government have underfunded the NHS for some time now, outcomes for patients are much poorer now than in 2010. The government will just manipulate statics to give the appearance things are better or improving, but there much worse. The public are angry, why should GPs get a raise when I can't even get an appointment... Nhs staff are lazy and have gold plated pensions. Argghhh, I could discuss this for hours, but tbh I feel the public are hanging themselves with this one. No MPs got gold plated pensions, CEOs have benefits and share options.......why are you directing animosity to lower paid hard working people...when should be directing it above your head not below it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmax2020 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I work for one a company owned by one of the largest engineering companies on the planet and off the back of 4% in April 2022, I’ll be amazed if we get 6 or 7% in 2023. Thats life. I get on with it. If I’m not happy I can and will leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HousePriceTooHigh Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Massive turnover this year at my place... Big raises seem necessary at this point as there is a lot of poaching going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenYearToGetMyMoneyBack Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, HousePriceTooHigh said: Massive turnover this year at my place... Big raises seem necessary at this point as there is a lot of poaching going on 6.5% this year backdated to April and 5.5% next April. The first time they have ever gone for a two year deal. The Union weren't happy and put some clause in so they can renegotiate if the is a significant change in the economy (for example inflation is 25% next year). We still have a £4000 bounty scheme running. There are various figures going around but one was that they had 71 new starters but had only increased the headcount by 11. Part of the problem is the number of over 60s deciding to retire and blow their pension before it is worth significantly less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Sainsbury’s raises hourly pay to £11 The increase from £10.25 to £11 — with London-based staff earning £11.95 an hour — will apply to 127,000 employees in stores and distribution centres from February and will cost the retailer £185mn over the course of a financial year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) On 22/07/2022 at 14:38, msi said: Wanted to keep track of the big payrises coming through as we all know the Elites can't stand workers earning more, so will lean on the BOE to jack up IRs. British Airways staff call off Heathrow strike after 13% pay rise deal Thought that was another rise Edited January 4, 2023 by TheCountOfNowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, TheCountOfNowhere said: Thought that was another rise Gives them a lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan110_0 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7% at my place, I'm sure if inflation "spirals" this year then our Union will begin negotiations for 2024. Strikes were held to get that 7% (10% including 2022). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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