Riedquat Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Postman said: Imagine... Rory Stewart could have been leader of the conservative party. I'm no Tory, but wow, what a gulf there is between those two in terms of upholding decency, morals and standards in public life. He would've been good - if he hadn't given the strong impression he was out of touch with the reality that Brexit had been voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Labour has biggest lead over Johnson's party since 2013 Britain's opposition Labour Party has opened up its biggest lead over Prime Minister Boris Johnson's governing Conservatives since 2013. The poll by Opinium gave Labour 41% of the vote share compared with 31% for the Conservatives. Reuters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Corrupt, moribund and indebted – Britain is becoming Italy without the Renaissance Britain's Berlusconi is a laughing stock abroad yet still tolerated at home At the time of writing, Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister. Who knows? Such is the pace of events that by the time you read this, he may be gone. I’d be making this column a hostage to fortune by speculating. But whether still in situ or not, the air of political instability and decay is again palpable. Britain is in danger of becoming Italy, at least in so far as international perceptions are concerned, only without the renaissance art and sunshine to compensate – a seemingly never ending chaos of political scandal, upheaval and maladministration characterised by a feckless elite and a culturally polarised citizenry increasingly stripped of the cleansing disciplines of a once thriving middle class. Economic stagnation, eye wateringly high public debt, and a moribund stock market complete the picture of national malaise Southern European style, with Johnson playing Britain’s very own Berlusconi, a laughing stock abroad even if, incredibly, still tolerated here at home. Whatever Italy’s faults, at least it had the foresight to ensure large scale gas storage to help overcome today’s global scarcity. Not such a basket case after all, it might be said. Britain’s ever more dysfunctional energy market is meanwhile virtually alone in Europe in placing no mandatory storage obligations on suppliers. With voluntary storage to last just four to five winter days, the UK has been left cruelly exposed to current shortages, exacerbating an already punishing cost of living crunch. Britain’s careless reliance on just-in-time, “something will turn up” practice is part of a pattern of seat of the pants government that seems to have little or no regard for accepted standards of conduct in public life. One scandal follows another, but without apparent consequence. It’s Italian politics in redux. Lack of viable alternatives ensure that Johnson staggers on regardless, with the sycophants around him repeatedly called on to defend the indefensible. Willingly they step forward. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/15/corrupt-moribund-indebted-britain-becoming-italy-without-renaissance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Bear Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, zugzwang said: Corrupt, moribund and indebted – Britain is becoming Italy without the Renaissance Britain's Berlusconi is a laughing stock abroad yet still tolerated at home At the time of writing, Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister. Who knows? Such is the pace of events that by the time you read this, he may be gone. I’d be making this column a hostage to fortune by speculating. But whether still in situ or not, the air of political instability and decay is again palpable. Britain is in danger of becoming Italy, at least in so far as international perceptions are concerned, only without the renaissance art and sunshine to compensate – a seemingly never ending chaos of political scandal, upheaval and maladministration characterised by a feckless elite and a culturally polarised citizenry increasingly stripped of the cleansing disciplines of a once thriving middle class. Economic stagnation, eye wateringly high public debt, and a moribund stock market complete the picture of national malaise Southern European style, with Johnson playing Britain’s very own Berlusconi, a laughing stock abroad even if, incredibly, still tolerated here at home. Whatever Italy’s faults, at least it had the foresight to ensure large scale gas storage to help overcome today’s global scarcity. Not such a basket case after all, it might be said. Britain’s ever more dysfunctional energy market is meanwhile virtually alone in Europe in placing no mandatory storage obligations on suppliers. With voluntary storage to last just four to five winter days, the UK has been left cruelly exposed to current shortages, exacerbating an already punishing cost of living crunch. Britain’s careless reliance on just-in-time, “something will turn up” practice is part of a pattern of seat of the pants government that seems to have little or no regard for accepted standards of conduct in public life. One scandal follows another, but without apparent consequence. It’s Italian politics in redux. Lack of viable alternatives ensure that Johnson staggers on regardless, with the sycophants around him repeatedly called on to defend the indefensible. Willingly they step forward. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/15/corrupt-moribund-indebted-britain-becoming-italy-without-renaissance/ Maybe, but if you compare the UK to China we are doing brilliantly. Can't remember the last time a city in the UK had it's electricity deliberately cut off? around 1970 if I remember. Also can't remember the last time political opponents were imprisoned and executed 18th century? edited to add At least we can have scandals. If you tell any one you've been abused you get taken for re-eduction if you try a peaceful protest you get squashed by tanks and taken to re-eduction camps. Makes you feel good to have a scandal when you think what it would be like in China. Edited January 16, 2022 by Flat Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Roman Roady said: I have emailed my local Tory MP for the first time ever. Enough is enough with this idiot now. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 42 minutes ago, Flat Bear said: Maybe, but if you compare the UK to China we are doing brilliantly. Can't remember the last time a city in the UK had it's electricity deliberately cut off? around 1970 if I remember. Also can't remember the last time political opponents were imprisoned and executed 18th century? edited to add At least we can have scandals. If you tell any one you've been abused you get taken for re-eduction if you try a peaceful protest you get squashed by tanks and taken to re-eduction camps. Makes you feel good to have a scandal when you think what it would be like in China. I mean, if you compare a plate of sick with a fox shit in a hat, then yes, option A is better than B, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Surely if you run a house, or household you have overall responsibility for what goes on in that household, take leadership running that house, and ultimately the buck stops at the top........that is what being a great leader is, for people to look up to as a great leader of example of trust and integrity, holding respect and honour from those that live and work there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Liam Fox: Politics is not The X Factor Now is not the time for a Tory leadership contest and a new PM This is a time for the whole Government to concentrate its efforts on the tasks at hand rather than engaging in a bout of internal fighting. It is not a time to be led by opinion polls. It is all the more reason to focus on delivery and break away from a culture that sees politics as some sort of X Factor contest, where personalities are more important than the issues of the day. We do not need potential leadership candidates forming shadow campaign teams within the party, with the inevitable diversion of energy and division. We should defer judgment. This is a time for unity over division, hard work over personal ambition and putting the country before the party. It is not a time for a leadership challenge. Daily Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, rollover said: Liam Fox: Politics is not The X Factor Now is not the time for a Tory leadership contest and a new PM This is a time for the whole Government to concentrate its efforts on the tasks at hand rather than engaging in a bout of internal fighting. It is not a time to be led by opinion polls. It is all the more reason to focus on delivery and break away from a culture that sees politics as some sort of X Factor contest, where personalities are more important than the issues of the day. We do not need potential leadership candidates forming shadow campaign teams within the party, with the inevitable diversion of energy and division. We should defer judgment. This is a time for unity over division, hard work over personal ambition and putting the country before the party. It is not a time for a leadership challenge. Daily Mail Went for a run this morning - Sunday papers on the petrol station stand were almost all Johnson must go or Carrie breaking lockdown rules... Mail went with an attack on the BBC. That folks is desperation by a mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Makes you proud to be British, doesn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The Sunday Times headline is perfectly congruent with a narcissistic custard clown shthead. Blame everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Flat Bear said: Maybe, but if you compare the UK to China we are doing brilliantly. Can't remember the last time a city in the UK had it's electricity deliberately cut off? around 1970 if I remember. Also can't remember the last time political opponents were imprisoned and executed 18th century? edited to add At least we can have scandals. If you tell any one you've been abused you get taken for re-eduction if you try a peaceful protest you get squashed by tanks and taken to re-eduction camps. Makes you feel good to have a scandal when you think what it would be like in China. China’s Trade Surplus Hit a Record $676 Billion in 2021 Chinese companies shipped $3.36 trillion of goods last year December was also the best month ever at $340.5 billion China’s record-breaking export strength continued into December, pushing the annual trade surplus to a new high and providing support to an economy being dragged down by a property-market slump and sporadic Covid outbreaks. Exports in December were $340.5 billion, taking the full year total to $3.36 trillion, according to a customs administration statement Friday. Imports were $246 billion in December and $2.69 trillion for the year, leaving a trade surplus of $94.5 billion for the month and $676 billion for the full year. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-14/china-posts-record-trade-surplus-in-2021-on-soaring-exports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 He’s not resigning: he’s allegedly spewing a mass bribe - army in the channel, trash the bbc, silly knighthoods and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, miguel said: The Sunday Times headline is perfectly congruent with a narcissistic custard clown shthead. Blame everyone else. Boris Johnson is planning a raft of "populist" announcements and a clearout of No 10 in a bid to hold onto his premiership. The Sunday Times says the PM is refusing to take responsibility for the crisis engulfing Downing Street. A senior government source is quoted as telling the paper: "Boris's view is that he is not to blame. That everyone else is to blame." BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, pig said: He’s not resigning: he’s allegedly spewing a mass bribe - army in the channel, trash the bbc, silly knighthoods and so on. And some posters have argued that there is no similarity between BJ and the mid 20th century dictators... Hitler, Stalin & Mussolini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Bruce Banner said: And some posters have argued that there is no similarity between BJ and the mid 20th century dictators... Hitler, Stalin & Mussolini. Malignant narcissism is the common thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rollover said: Boris Johnson is planning a raft of "populist" announcements and a clearout of No 10 in a bid to hold onto his premiership. The Sunday Times says the PM is refusing to take responsibility for the crisis engulfing Downing Street. A senior government source is quoted as telling the paper: "Boris's view is that he is not to blame. That everyone else is to blame." BBC You just have to look up the traits of a narc to understand that his response is soooo predictable. Believe me, he ain't sorry either. Narcs never are, they simply don't ever accept that it's a problem of their own making. Therefore the blame must lie elsewhere i.e. other people. He is desperate to maintain his position, his narc supply. Oh and they NEVER change, well 99+% don't. That's because they think they are perfect, so why change? Johnson is a maladaptive narc. Edited January 16, 2022 by miguel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Postman said: Imagine... Rory Stewart could have been leader of the conservative party. I'm no Tory, but wow, what a gulf there is between those two in terms of upholding decency, morals and standards in public life. Well said Postman. Decency and duty to country is what we should have. Dominic Grieve might be another candidate against the creation of a perfect banana republic. The thing is nobody has done a Douglas Howe speech --- so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Flat Bear said: Maybe, but if you compare the UK to China we are doing brilliantly. Can't remember the last time a city in the UK had it's electricity deliberately cut off? around 1970 if I remember. Also can't remember the last time political opponents were imprisoned and executed 18th century? edited to add At least we can have scandals. If you tell any one you've been abused you get taken for re-eduction if you try a peaceful protest you get squashed by tanks and taken to re-eduction camps. Makes you feel good to have a scandal when you think what it would be like in China. Now, we have a corrupt bunch of maggots supported by billionaire vested interests and bungs from lobbyists. It is far, far deeper than just 'Partygate' - which is just a lingering wet fart compared to what's going on behind the scenes. Like this small slice of the poisoned pie: https://www.rt.com/shows/renegade-inc/545532-british-nhs-american-management/ "It has long been the plan to dismantle the NHS and sell great swathes of it into private hands. The profits that can be made from healthcare are staggering – just ask the Americans. So have British politicians, lobbyists, and corporate interests used the pandemic to speed up the steady creep toward a US-style pay-to-play healthcare system that puts profits above patient interests? Ross Ashcroft is joined by Dr. Bob Gill to discuss the future of the NHS." The plan is working out well, supported by a bunch of useful zombified idiots . In fact you can read it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: And some posters have argued that there is no similarity between BJ and the mid 20th century dictators... Hitler, Stalin & Mussolini. Borisconi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Jabs, jabs, jabs, jabs and more jabs . Boris Johnson will address No 10 ‘party culture’, says Tory chief | Conservatives | The Guardian But Dowden rejected the argument that Johnson was so compromised by the rule-breaking that he would have to resign. He said he “should of course remain as our prime minister” because of the leadership he had shown over Covid, in particular in ordering the mass booster programme and resisting calls for a lockdown before Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Riedquat said: He would've been good - if he hadn't given the strong impression he was out of touch with the reality that Brexit had been voted for. In fact, he tried to suggest a middle-road compromise for Brexit, a softer one. This annoyed me as it's clear there was only ever a hard Brexit on the cards. His failing was he should have seen this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wait until he weasels out by virtue of the rigged inquiry. Loads more damaging revelations will come to light and the fun really begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I hope there is still respect held for our Queen...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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