shlomo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/how-everyone-could-150-vouchers-19911811?fbclid=IwAR28IK2zpYlNEKXsmV-jtw2WNixREHZJjHXY7p2l2P8ljDRgV6M_WAlCk4M Treasury advisors are reported to be considering a plan that could see everyone in the country given a £150 voucher to spend on the High Street. Adults would each get the Government handout with children also getting £75, reports The Mirror. The money would be designed to boost the UK economy after a year of lockdowns. It would be free to spend in retailers, set to open in the second stage of England's lockdown lifting roadmap from April 12. The cash could also be available across the UK when similar easing happens. It should be pounds....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save me from the madness! Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) Can I be controversial and suggest these vouchers should only be given to people who have not received furlough payments, self employment support or whatever its called etc. I would much rather the government spent this money sorting the huge backlog in the NHS really. I am so grateful I've not had any medical issues in my family and hopefully that run of luck can continue another couple of years that I reckon it will take to sort out. Edited February 25, 2021 by Save me from the madness! Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Save me from the madness! said: Can I be controversial and suggest these vouchers should only be given to people who have not received furlough payments, self employment support or whatever its called etc. I would much rather the government spent this money sorting the huge backlog in the NHS really. I am so grateful I've not had any medical issues in my family and hopefully that run of luck can continue another couple of years that I reckon it will take to sort out. Don't be silly. I think it should be all given to people who have spent the last decade paying themselves via dividends rather than salary to avoid tax. As they paid a lower rate of taxation for decades and avoided paying national insurance if you belive the press and labour its an outrage that they haven't been treated the same as those who have paid PAYE in full .. Even though the salary they choose to pay themselves is covered Expect the "excluded" to feature heavily in the budget Edited February 26, 2021 by captainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Can you buy booze with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, dances with sheeple said: Can you buy booze with them? My thoughts exactly. Can I spend them in a pub/nightclub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, dances with sheeple said: Can you buy booze with them? Can you use it to help pay for a passport renewal to get out of this increasingly lunatic run country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarmo Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Sounds like a good way of getting people back out there. My sister lives in the USA. She and her husband each received a $1200 stimulus cheque early on in the pandemic. I Think she received another lower value one more recently. They're saving for a house so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LetsBuild Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Depends what I can spend them on but I reckon they will be pretty worthless to me, the high street indeed. Might end up selling them for a lower face value in cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, dances with sheeple said: Can you buy booze with them? Only mid range fashion and crappy Italian chain restaurants as nothing is allowed to fail ever. They are also bringing back blockbuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, captainb said: Only mid range fashion and crappy Italian chain restaurants as nothing is allowed to fail ever. They are also bringing back blockbuster. Damn, I scrapped my VCR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, LetsBuild said: Depends what I can spend them on but I reckon they will be pretty worthless to me, the high street indeed. Might end up selling them for a lower face value in cash. Go scale the idea and set up a voucher brokerage website. Frankly, like eat out to help out, it will just attract the wrong sort of clientele. They'll be chavs in Burberry again!!! Edited February 26, 2021 by Mikhail Liebenstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Oh god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, anonguest said: Can you use it to help pay for a passport renewal to get out of this increasingly lunatic run country? But where would you go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 hours ago, captainb said: Don't be silly. I think it should be all given to people who have spent the last decade paying themselves via dividends rather than salary to avoid tax. As they paid a lower rate of taxation for decades and avoided paying national insurance if you belive the press and labour its an outrage that they haven't been treated the same as those who have paid PAYE in full .. Even though the salary they choose to pay themselves is covered Expect the "excluded" to feature heavily in the budget Definitely. Pay only those who never knew if they'd have a job after 3 months, never had company cars, holiday pay, works pension scheme, sick pay, redundancy pay. Had to travel miles to work and stay away from home. had to employ an accountant. Pay for their own training. Never had access to benefits and had to fund their periods of unemployment. Got all the shyt work permanent employees were too lazy or unmotivated to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, PeanutButter said: But where would you go? I know. Depressing isn't it? 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 hours ago, shlomo said: https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/how-everyone-could-150-vouchers-19911811?fbclid=IwAR28IK2zpYlNEKXsmV-jtw2WNixREHZJjHXY7p2l2P8ljDRgV6M_WAlCk4M Treasury advisors are reported to be considering a plan that could see everyone in the country given a £150 voucher to spend on the High Street. Adults would each get the Government handout with children also getting £75, reports The Mirror. The money would be designed to boost the UK economy after a year of lockdowns. It would be free to spend in retailers, set to open in the second stage of England's lockdown lifting roadmap from April 12. The cash could also be available across the UK when similar easing happens. It should be pounds....... Why are the media not screaming STOP at the loonies in power ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 We could buy seed with it and start to grow something.......then can propagate our own seed to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, winkie said: We could buy seed with it and start to grow something.......then can propagate our own seed to share. Drat, bought most of the seeds I plan on sowing last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I have no clue why "the High Street" is something we need to save. Shopping trends change over time. Giving vouchers out to try and desperately pretend that online shopping isn't "a thing" just doesn't work. COVID has accelerated a permanent shift away from Mr & Mrs Smith doing the Saturday shop with a paper shopping list in one hand and a baby in the other, to something else. The DHL parcel delivery lady, and the Tesco Online delivery man, are the new kings of retail. Mr Humphries is out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, scottbeard said: I have no clue why "the High Street" is something we need to save. Shopping trends change over time. Giving vouchers out to try and desperately pretend that online shopping isn't "a thing" just doesn't work. COVID has accelerated a permanent shift away from Mr & Mrs Smith doing the Saturday shop with a paper shopping list in one hand and a baby in the other, to something else. The DHL parcel delivery lady, and the Tesco Online delivery man, are the new kings of retail. Mr Humphries is out of luck. You've all done very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, scottbeard said: I have no clue why "the High Street" is something we need to save. Shopping trends change over time. Giving vouchers out to try and desperately pretend that online shopping isn't "a thing" just doesn't work. COVID has accelerated a permanent shift away from Mr & Mrs Smith doing the Saturday shop with a paper shopping list in one hand and a baby in the other, to something else. The DHL parcel delivery lady, and the Tesco Online delivery man, are the new kings of retail. Mr Humphries is out of luck. That's what is happening. Doesn't mean it's what should be happening. Not all change is good, even if it has immediate superficial appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, wighty said: Definitely. Pay only those who never knew if they'd have a job after 3 months, never had company cars, holiday pay, works pension scheme, sick pay, redundancy pay. Had to travel miles to work and stay away from home. had to employ an accountant. Pay for their own training. Never had access to benefits and had to fund their periods of unemployment. Got all the shyt work permanent employees were too lazy or unmotivated to do. You mean sacrificed those rights for higher gross pay and flexibility? I have no problem with contractors. I've done it myself through a Ltd company but came stuck through Ir35 then went employee, then did something different as frankly being an employee want great. When doing monthly invoicing from my name Ltd to them I got the gig. I charged a decent day rate grossed up to cover holiday and employers NI, covered my expenses, paid myself 9k salary and the partner and then took the rest as a divi. No sick pay etc but that's the nature of the game. Net benefit to me was far higher than being on PAYE with no control. At no point would I ever consider demanding sick pay or demand holiday pay or demand something I didn't pay in for. Wanting all the benefits of contracting but all the "support" of someone paying full PAYE is having your cake and eating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, captainb said: You mean sacrificed those rights for higher gross pay and flexibility? I have no problem with contractors. I've done it myself through a Ltd company but came stuck through Ir35 then went employee, then did something different as frankly being an employee want great. When doing monthly invoicing from my name Ltd to them I got the gig. I charged a decent day rate grossed up to cover holiday and employers NI, covered my expenses, paid myself 9k salary and the partner and then took the rest as a divi. No sick pay etc but that's the nature of the game. Net benefit to me was far higher than being on PAYE with no control. At no point would I ever consider demanding sick pay or demand holiday pay or demand something I didn't pay in for. Wanting all the benefits of contracting but all the "support" of someone paying full PAYE is having your cake and eating it. I thought your post was sarcastic and having a go at contractors. Think that was wrong interpretation. I've gone through the same contract route as you but now see contracting getting less and less worthwhile. Being screwed by IR35 looks like the end for me. So now looking to do something different (dont know what yet) but not going into full time employment. Let them outsource offshore. See how the full timers like that!. In its heyday (some years ago before offshoring) permanent employees pay would never have gone up so much if it wasnt for the "obscene" contract rates. The contractors I knew never expected anything nor wanted anything for free. Just backed their own ability. There was no better feeling than giving 2 fingers to a shyt contract extension offer. Edited February 26, 2021 by wighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, scottbeard said: I have no clue why "the High Street" is something we need to save. Shopping trends change over time. Giving vouchers out to try and desperately pretend that online shopping isn't "a thing" just doesn't work. COVID has accelerated a permanent shift away from Mr & Mrs Smith doing the Saturday shop with a paper shopping list in one hand and a baby in the other, to something else. The DHL parcel delivery lady, and the Tesco Online delivery man, are the new kings of retail. Mr Humphries is out of luck. I hope you can spend it in charity shops 'cause that's the only retail left in the high street round my way. Apart from pubs, bookies ans estate agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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