Trump Invective Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 hours ago, msi said: No. Why should we be careful...if it turns into a firestorm so be it. Those that knew can take precautions as far as they can. Too true. Be careful what I wish for? Want to patronise me any more? I know exactly what Im wishing for and I dont need to be careful about it at all. Others can wish for something else, carefully, if they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, satsuma said: Indeed, As they say you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes out. Not so funny if it’s your sister or brother or niece etc and you are left to bail them no one needs bailing ever. why should a hanged man have his rope cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) On 17/08/2020 at 13:21, Roman Roady said: I think it was 1978 in one canton that women finally got the vote...they had it far longer in the other cantons. As far as being incompatible, I always remember the vote on the airforces proposed procurement of the Grippen fighter from Saab. After the airforce refused to patrol the skies out side of business hours, the population voted down their new toy in 2014. Looks like Saab have now finally given up... https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/06/14/saabs-gripen-is-out-of-the-running-in-swiss-aircraft-race/ The elimination marks the second defeat for the Gripen in the neutral country of Switzerland in recent years. The population voted down a procurement of the jet in 2014 in an acrimonious referendum that the government wants to avoid repeating at all costs. This was first exposed when french and itallian fighters had to escort a hijacked plane into Geneva. Thats real power in the hands of the electorate! Actually it was 1990 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_Switzerland Saying that it was a very small canon. It could be argued that with the ability to call for referenda, PR and more local power, it is very democratic now and more than the UK and many other countries. Edited August 20, 2020 by iamnumerate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Trump Invective said: That's the problem when your ideology clashes with your population. Landlords of course think that the 2010- government has been horrible to them, but ultimately that government is only on one side. Problem is, the other side is a significant amount of the population, ultimately owing to recent monetary policies. "Best" of luck avoiding the pitch forks. It was a lot better a Landlord before 2010 than today. (Not that I am or ever will be a BTL landlord). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, iamnumerate said: It was a lot better a Landlord before 2010 than today. (Not that I am or ever will be a BTL landlord). Yeah and probably better in 1875 aswell - all good stuff, as long as landlords get screwed im happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Trump Invective said: Yeah and probably better in 1875 aswell - all good stuff, as long as landlords get screwed im happy I was talking about 1997 to 2010. I would guess the best time ever in history was the mid 1990s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonriver Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 A small section quoted below of an interesting article about the growth of Renters Unions. How much of an effect do you think they could have in eviction resistance? Will their action on Monday make the MSM? Looks like landlords are about to be reminded they are just a business and like any other business, need to plan for business risk. https://novaramedia.com/2020/08/19/renters-unions-are-preparing-to-resist-an-impending-tsunami-of-evictions/ Quote Renters Unions Are Preparing to Resist an ‘Impending Tsunami’ of Evictions Landlords in England and Wales will be celebrating on Sunday, as the government’s eviction ban lifts. Many have spent lockdown itching to turf out their tenants: they’ve served 60,000 people with eviction notices since mid-March and threatened 174,000 with the same.... ...However, landlords hoping to ride the wave of evictions – or “impending tsunami”, as London mayor Sadiq Khan has called it – may be disappointed. For since the government announced the ban five months ago, renters unions across the UK have anticipated an onslaught – and been organising to resist it. Membership of renters unions has spiked during lockdown. Scotland’s Living Rent has had 500 members and supporters join since March; while 2000 have joined the London Renters Union (LRU). Meanwhile, community union Acorn has more than doubled its month-on-month growth and set up seven new branches. Many of those who’ve joined have done so out of fear of eviction – a fear unions have been working hard to assuage: Living Rent has trained over 100 members in eviction resistance, the LRU has trained more than 200, while Acorn has held roughly two dozen training sessions..... ....What few tenants know, says Isaac Rose, an organiser for GMTU, is that eviction notices frequently contain errors that render them invalid – and that even when they don’t, legal proceedings typically take months, during which time they are entitled to stay put. “It’s important tenants know that when you get an eviction notice, you don’t have to leave, that there’s a long process,” says Rose. “If you’re aware of that process, you’ve more confidence to deal with it. The union’s role is to provide that confidence.” Rose acknowledges that some landlords will pursue the process to its conclusion. If they do, unions are prepared. He says GMTU intends to “make a spectacle of the legal process” as silent witnesses in courtrooms and on pickets outside courts. GMTU’s first picket is planned for Monday, the day the courts reopen, while the London Renters Union has a number of protests planned outside magistrates’ courts across the capital the same day. “Our assessment is that if the courts are being slowed down, and it’s becoming a big issue in the judiciary, the kind of official wave of eviction threats, that will put pressure on the government to reinstate the eviction ban or bring in a rent cancellation,” Rose says. If push comes to shove, however, renters stand ready to take on landlords – all the more so after a false start in June. “We were good to go on resisting evictions before the ban was extended,” says Scarborough. “The extension has only made us more prepared. The difference is that this time, we know that we can’t rely on the government to step in. We don’t want to fight, but if we have to, we will – so bring it on.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, moonriver said: A small section quoted below of an interesting article about the growth of Renters Unions. How much of an effect do you think they could have in eviction resistance? Will their action on Monday make the MSM? Looks like landlords are about to be reminded they are just a business and like any other business, need to plan for business risk. https://novaramedia.com/2020/08/19/renters-unions-are-preparing-to-resist-an-impending-tsunami-of-evictions/ It will definitely be on the news - all divisive issues are lapped up by the press. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyInParticular Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, satsuma said: Don’t know how much Germany has tucked away but it’s a lot, they have been running a surplus for years and refusing to spend it A thriving export economy with a high skills base and good standard of living will do that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saving For a Space Ship Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, moonriver said: A small section quoted below of an interesting article about the growth of Renters Unions. How much of an effect do you think they could have in eviction resistance? Will their action on Monday make the MSM? Looks like landlords are about to be reminded they are just a business and like any other business, need to plan for business risk. https://novaramedia.com/2020/08/19/renters-unions-are-preparing-to-resist-an-impending-tsunami-of-evictions/ The New Tolpuddle Martyrs Tory Muddle Renters...BTL Hovel Resistors... . Bring it on End of eviction ban in England and Wales 'could cause Covid surge' Doctors and health officials warn in letter of impact of homelessness ‘avalanche’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/20/end-of-eviction-ban-in-england-and-wales-could-cause-covid-surge Edited August 20, 2020 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, iamnumerate said: I was talking about 1997 to 2010. I would guess the best time ever in history was the mid 1990s. Depends exactly what you like but the mid 90s was definitely a pretty decent time to be alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saving For a Space Ship Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) There it is... Government insists plan to end eviction ban remains Thousands are at risk of homelessness when England's eviction ban ends this Sunday. The Government is showing no signs of changing course https://www.bigissue.com/latest/government-insists-plan-to-end-eviction-ban-remains/ Not suprising seeing what's coming.. Fears over 'vacuum' as top UK homelessness adviser steps down Louise Casey tells housing groups she will no longer lead rough sleeper task force https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/20/fears-over-vacuum-as-top-uk-homelessness-adviser-louise-casey-steps-down Edited August 20, 2020 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saving For a Space Ship said: There it is... Government insists plan to end eviction ban remains Thousands are at risk of homelessness when England's eviction ban ends this Sunday. The Government is showing no signs of changing course https://www.bigissue.com/latest/government-insists-plan-to-end-eviction-ban-remains/ Cant afford another U-turn. Giving different grades is fine as a u turn, keeping people off the streets is another matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If the Government buckle and back down on this, expect the same for the furlough scheme in a month or two. Such a meaningful decision if the can is kicked down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Riedquat said: Depends exactly what you like but the mid 90s was definitely a pretty decent time to be alive. I don’t remember it being that fab but the gap between rich and poor was narrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucnvpe0 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Blink said: If the Government buckle and back down on this, expect the same for the furlough scheme in a month or two. Such a meaningful decision if the can is kicked down the road. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby81 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Extended until 20th September according to Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nabby81 said: Extended until 20th September according to Sky Will be interesting to see if this is just for no-fault / Covid related evictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Extended for those that can't pay their rents.......extended for debt/mortgage payers. ...only thing lost is income......why millions have been losing income recently.....join the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Eviction ban ‘to be extended by a month’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, msi said: Eviction ban ‘to be extended by a month’ Give them a month to think of something complex to appease landlords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, msi said: Eviction ban ‘to be extended by a month’ Can duly kicked. Right now it applies to all evictions, but I expect it’ll be amended to be just Covid-related arrears before the September deadline passes. Exactly how they’ll define that is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 6 months notice now too. I'll enjoy telling my landlord that last week's eviction was invalid as deposit not protected. Please return deposit then give new (6 months) notice. Ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freki Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Are they squealing on property tribes and 118? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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