Brexit What Happens Next Thread ---multiple merged threads.

[kzb]

2 hours ago, thecrashingisles said:

That's the way it was sold by the May government but in reality once the principle of zero checks had been conceded, there was no way that even a smart border solution could have been accepted by the EU.

Why not though?  What is so special about the EU that they cannot accept modern day solutions?

Also, the EU actually has a written policy of moving towards electronic customs, and are signed up to the trade facilitation agreements at the WTO.

[kzb]

2 minutes ago, byron78 said:

Again, you sort of need someone to take things over a border. It's one of the reasons freedom of movement is a thing.

People don't tend to just throw stuff into our country...

 

Again you just show your ignorance of the NI/RoI border.

[thecrashingisles]

14 minutes ago, kzb said:

Why not though?  What is so special about the EU that they cannot accept modern day solutions?

Also, the EU actually has a written policy of moving towards electronic customs, and are signed up to the trade facilitation agreements at the WTO.

The point is that the UK itself agreed to define a hard border in a way that ruled out any kind of checks at all. Even if something based on the Smart Border 2.0 proposal were viable, it wouldn't meet the bar that was set in the Joint Report near the beginning of the negotiations.

[rollover]

Disaster relief charity called in over post-Brexit lorry port queues

A crisis relief charity offering emergency help after earthquakes, hurricanes and floods is being drafted in to ease the suffering of lorry drivers stuck in post-Brexit queues. The truckers have been left without access to toilets, food or drink on the M20 and M2.

RE:ACT Disaster Response also works in war-torn Afghanistan and Ukraine – but has now signed a deal with Kent County Council as it struggles with gridlock at the Port of Dover.

Drivers spend many hours in their cabs because of the mountain of red tape created by Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal, which brought frictionless trade with the EU to the end.

Independent

[OnionTerror]

6 hours ago, kzb said:

It was never about that though was it.  The report was about how to insert a customs border but make it essentially invisible, not about "accessing the single market".

Its also a regulatory border, not just a customs border..

Edited May 22, 2022 by Dave Beans

[yelims]

This thread still going? Fml 

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

7 hours ago, yelims said:

This thread still going? Fml 

It’s just getting started:

 

Disaster relief charity called in over post-Brexit lorry port queues

RE:ACT boasts expertise after earthquakes and war – but is now needed by Kent County Council

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[MARTINX9]

8 hours ago, yelims said:

This thread still going? Fml 

No matter what the people say they are never giving up nor giving in! 

A bit of good old fashioned Europop from 1983 when Labour were campaigning for the UK to leave the Common Market!

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by MARTINX9

[winkie]

Unfortunately ignoring it won't make it go away.

[slawek]

Business doesn't want to invest in Brexit Britain. This will have a significant negative impact on productivity and quality of live in the UK.

[kzb]

3 hours ago, slawek said:

Business doesn't want to invest in Brexit Britain. This will have a significant negative impact on productivity and quality of live in the UK.

Where do you get these charts from ?!

In France and Italy the black line follows the red line does it?

[kzb]

19 hours ago, Dave Beans said:

Its also a regulatory border, not just a customs border..

If they wanted to do it, they'd do it.  The ROI/UK Customs discussions also covered this I recall, and there were no massive problems that couldn't be solved.

[kzb]

18 hours ago, yelims said:

This thread still going? Fml 

We are going round the same circles time after time.  It will never end.

[slawek]

1 hour ago, kzb said:

Where do you get these charts from ?!

In France and Italy the black line follows the red line does it?

Bloomberg.

The UK was/is the worst 

https://www.ft.com/content/7d7c197b-252b-47d0-928c-c8a89c40d0bd

Edited May 23, 2022 by slawek

[kzb]

36 minutes ago, slawek said:

Bloomberg.

The UK was/is the worst 

https://www.ft.com/content/7d7c197b-252b-47d0-928c-c8a89c40d0bd

What does it look like when plotted in £ (or € or $) instead of 2016 = 100 ?

I ask because there are reports saying the UK was number 2 after France in 2021.

 

[kzb]

I came across this disgraceful article by an extreme Brexiter last night.  I am sure it must be full of lies:

https://www.brexit-watch.org/costoflivingcrisis-an-apocalypse-of-our-own-making

The UK imports on average about 1.8 million tonnes of tariff code 100099 Wheat and Meslin each year. The UK’s own wheat yields are usually weather dependent but this year the high cost of fertilizer will also play a part.

Canada is our largest wheat supplier, supplying on average 425,000 tonnes but it was able to step up last year and supply us with 532,000 tonnes when our own yields were low. After Canada our next largest suppliers are Germany (5yr Ave 277,000), Denmark (270,000 tonnes) France (238,000) and Romania (122,000).

[EDT]

Rather incredibly, despite relying on Canada for wheat, the average tariff applied by the UK to our Canadian 100099 Wheat imports was 16.9% in 2021, while our Ukrainian and Russian wheat imports had 27% tariffs added to them in 2021.

Why?

We have just signed a trade deal with Australia, one of the world largest wheat exporters. Last year it was second after Russia and ahead of the US and Canada, but in the UK’s new ‘Free’ Trade Agreement we have negotiated to limit our tariff-free quota for Australian wheat imports to only 80,000 tonnes and will only reduce our wheat tariffs over five years. The UK imports almost 2 million tonnes of wheat each year. As the Governor of the Bank of England says – wheat is a basic food stuff. Why would we add tariffs to it?

But we do add tariffs to it....

(CUT).

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by kzb

[IMHAL]

10 minutes ago, kzb said:

I came across this disgraceful article by an extreme Brexiter last night.  I am sure it must be full of lies:

https://www.brexit-watch.org/costoflivingcrisis-an-apocalypse-of-our-own-making

The UK imports on average about 1.8 million tonnes of tariff code 100099 Wheat and Meslin each year. The UK’s own wheat yields are usually weather dependent but this year the high cost of fertilizer will also play a part.

Canada is our largest wheat supplier, supplying on average 425,000 tonnes but it was able to step up last year and supply us with 532,000 tonnes when our own yields were low. After Canada our next largest suppliers are Germany (5yr Ave 277,000), Denmark (270,000 tonnes) France (238,000) and Romania (122,000).

[EDT]

Rather incredibly, despite relying on Canada for wheat, the average tariff applied by the UK to our Canadian 100099 Wheat imports was 16.9% in 2021, while our Ukrainian and Russian wheat imports had 27% tariffs added to them in 2021.

Why?

We have just signed a trade deal with Australia, one of the world largest wheat exporters. Last year it was second after Russia and ahead of the US and Canada, but in the UK’s new ‘Free’ Trade Agreement we have negotiated to limit our tariff-free quota for Australian wheat imports to only 80,000 tonnes and will only reduce our wheat tariffs over five years. The UK imports almost 2 million tonnes of wheat each year. As the Governor of the Bank of England says – wheat is a basic food stuff. Why would we add tariffs to it?

But we do add tariffs to it....

(CUT).

 

What? Brexiteer blames Brexit government for post Brexit deals.

When you have no one left to blame...etc etc etc 

 

[kzb]

3 minutes ago, IMHAL said:

What? Brexiteer blames Brexit government for post Brexit deals.

When you have no one left to blame...etc etc etc 

 

But is it a Brexit government?  Or is it a bunch of organisations determined to keep us hanging on the EU apron strings?

[winkie]

 

[IMHAL]

7 minutes ago, kzb said:

But is it a Brexit government?  Or is it a bunch of organisations determined to keep us hanging on the EU apron strings?

And there was me thinking that you knew what you voted for....GWAF 

[kzb]

9 minutes ago, IMHAL said:

And there was me thinking that you knew what you voted for....GWAF 

Anyway, never mind these distractions, what do you think of the actual article?  Do you think we should accelerate the Australia FTA quota reduction schedule?

[byron78]

19 minutes ago, kzb said:

But is it a Brexit government?  Or is it a bunch of organisations determined to keep us hanging on the EU apron strings?

🤣

[pig]

26 minutes ago, kzb said:

But is it a Brexit government?  Or is it a bunch of organisations determined to keep us hanging on the EU apron strings?

Yes as discussed Pluto is a great place for Brexiters as they trade with the unicornverse. Here on poor old earth countries trade with their neighbours as its easy and the rest of the world where its worth it.

[Cocha]

5 minutes ago, pig said:

Yes as discussed Pluto is a great place for Brexiters as they trade with the unicornverse. Here on poor old earth countries trade with their neighbours as its easy and the rest of the world where its worth it.

As a buyer of over 20 years, I've found the French the most difficult to trade with.

[slawek]

1 hour ago, kzb said:

What does it look like when plotted in £ (or € or $) instead of 2016 = 100 ?

I ask because there are reports saying the UK was number 2 after France in 2021.

 

My point was about the trend, not one year number distorted by Covid.

BTW can you provide the source? I can't find anything confirming your claim.