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Considering all the things you need ID for to participate in society in a meaningful way, this, if true, should be very concerning indeed.

Fiver says you don't. Any why pick on the poor sod in the polling booth (and why assume it will be a lady?)? All they will be doing is enforcing the laws. Go and be a Steve Bray outside parliament if you feel that strongly about it.

Why is it only a "non existent issue" for us English? How come so many other countries insist on ID being show to vote? Do you think us English are just better and more trustable than all those forriners?

Indeed. There is simply no sensible argument against it. Some of the supposed reasons people are trying to create are utterly pathetic. And they didn't seem to give a toss about Northern Ireland when it was introduced over there. Must be a case of English exceptionalism. We are English and we are better and more trustable than than all those other countries who insist on ID being shown to vote. Which is also pretty racist.

And we are never going to get that. We will always have FPTP because FPTP suits the Westminster Party down to the ground and those who want proportional representation keep voting for parties who want FPTP. How dumb can people be?

🤣🤣🤣 If you are incapable of obtaining FREE voter ID, you are too thick to deserve a vote. Simple as.

How is it blocking the poor out? The ID is FREE. The desperation of some to find non existent issues is quite something.

The ID is FREE. Everyone who has a passport or a driving licence has had to somehow manage the incredibly arduous (not really) task of finding where to get a photo taken, get there and pay for them. Anyone incapable of this doesn't deserve a vote and it is probably for the best that they can't, just like anyone incapable of this shouldn't be driving.

I'd have preferred them to start with postal voting and then move onto voter ID, but once voter ID has been introduced then the focus can move to postal voting.

As free voter ID is available to anyone who wants it, the only people it will prevent from voting are people who wouldn't have been bothered about voting anyway.

I won't and don't vote for either. I want lower house prices, so I would be exactly what I've accused others of being should I vote for a party which wants higher house prices, whilst moaning about high house prices. My vote will be going to a different party. If more and more people started doing this, then as the vote share of the Westminster Party falls, they would be more likely to change, either voluntarily or via necessity. However, neither have any need to change whatsoever currently, because they know enough useful idiots will continue to keep voting for them, wazzing down on us and laughing their heads off, no matter what they do. And those very same people will continue to moan and whine about the exact things they keep voting for more of.

I don't disagree with this. Have the tories or labour done anything at all, whatsoever to make you believe this is something they would even think about, let alone enacting. If so, please detail it here for me as I've obviously missed it.

Doesn't matter if it is a snap election or Jan 2025. If you want lower house prices, don't vote for either party which has proven time and again over the last 2 decades that they want higher house prices. And if you do then accept whatever you are voting for, the trade off is higher house prices, so quit whining about high house prices.

Childish and rude? Have you been on the Brexit thread 😂 So you have 2 parties who want higher house prices, but someone wants lower house prices. How would you define someone who keeps voting for higher house prices when they want lower house prices and then spends years and years crying about higher house prices on a house price crash forum?

You keep voting for higher house prices by all means Bruce, but if you do and then carry on whining about high house prices on here then that can only be defined as completely re-tarded.

And thank you for reinforcing my point that anyone wanting lower house prices but still votes for the Westminster Party is a re-tard.

One word? Re-tard.

Yep and re-tards keep voting for it again and again and again, then spend the next 5 years crying into their beer about our political overlords. Then they go out and vote for them again, because We NeEd To GeT rId Of ThE ReDs/BLuEs AnD oUr OnLy OpTiOn Is To VoTe FoR ThE BlUeS/rEdS. It's staggering how stupid people can be.

Pretty much what I expected. Nothing other than some unfounded hope based on zero past evidence. Westminster might as well do away with voting, they are just wasting time and money with it. The red half and the blue half just need to agree to take turns every 5 years and be done with it. I agree 100% the tories need to go. But I disagree 100% that labour are in anyway an answer to what you expect them to deliver.

Awww, is mummy letting you play on her phone again? Get off back to your play pit child.

It helps our political class aka The Kleptocratic Duopoly of Westminster, no end that they know that no matter what they do, they will retain power because our re-tarded masses will just keep voting for them and alternating between the red half and the blue half. And they just laugh at the re-tarded masses moaning endlessly about the things they keep voting for more of. It was pretty clear after the expenses scandal that the KDoW knew it could get away with doing whatever it wanted. Rather than pitchforks and burning torches, they had to endure a couple of weeks of angry tutting and rolling eyes. Us British are seriously brutal when it comes to bringing our political class to task. As the old saying goes, you get the politicians you deserve.

Considering their history in both power and opposition, what gives you the belief they will do so for any of the 4 you cite? And what is it they would need to do do regarding them to reach your high bar of marvelous?

And who presided over the 2000-2010 blowing of the biggest housing ponzi scheme in history? And who has done ****** all about it in opposition since 2010? Just like the tories did ****** all about it in opposition between 2000-2010. But keep on voting for higher house prices and trying to deflect this by accusing anyone who reminds you of your slavish tribalistic willful blindness to labour as being a Tory voter.

In which case you aren't anywhere near as clever as you think you are. I despise the Tories as much as Labour, but your tribalistic obsession with Labour prevents you seeing this. You are on a forum called house price crash, you want lower house prices, history proves both sides of the Westminster Party are equally culpable for the 2 decade housing ponzi scheme we are suffering, but your tribalism to Labour prevents you accepting this. So you just try and deflect to defend your slavish support of Labour. It's not too late to better yourself though, but I very much doubt you are capable. Just go stick your tick in the red box of the KDoW party and keep whining about house prices like a re-tard. Oh and perhaps throw out another 'I'm putting you on ignore' lie of a post 😂 And just another reminder, in case your selective short term memory is in overdrive, I've never voted tory and I've never voted Labour 🙂

For some strange reason, it really irks this particular poster that I've never voted tory. They appear to think that by insinuating I have, it will somehow change the fact that I haven't for them, but unfortunately for msi, no matter how much they wish it to be so, the fact remains that I've never voted tory. They themselves are a tribalistic labour supporter and won't ever vote for anyone else, so perhaps it is something to do with this, although quite what, only their warped mind could explain.