The Collapse of Russia. What happens next?

[MerchantNavy]

45 minutes ago, Flat Bear said:

Are you posting just for the salary? If you do not care but keep posting and following these threads then it has to be the only reason. Just doing your job.

Night Tripper has made it very clear he is a Putin supporter through and through. He has been making a lot of mistakes and giving away much of the Kremlins thoughts. He knows what is going on in the Kremlin before it has been made public, or more accurately, in the western press. He posts before he thinks and this is all very insightful. It is worrying that he has been talking about nuclear weapons being deployed in Ukraine and that the thoughts are there will, can not be, any reprisal. It lets us know how totally devoid of reality Putin actually is.

Who is Night Tripper? Where is he based? He is too emotional and makes too many fundamental mistakes to be a bot, but he does get information before it is available. Interesting.

Are you posting due to your shares in defence equipment?  

 

 

 

[MerchantNavy]

23 minutes ago, MarkG said:

What a difference 21 hours makes.

Have you even seen the pictures from Rostov? Some local guy taking a selfie with Prigozhin, people taking pictures of their kids with Wagner soldiers, Wagner tank crews making 'heart' signs for the camera, Wagner tank with flowers in the muzzle of its gun, Wagner soldiers calmly lining up at the supermarket checkout to buy food and drink.

It would be the fakest and gayest coup ever if Wagner hadn't shot down some Russian aircraft along the way.

Many of the soldiers are also claiming they were told they were going to Belgorod to protect against Ukrainian attacks and didn't understand why they ended up in Rostov. Prigozhin had very little support even among his own men, and now he's allegedly being exiled to Africa where Wagner will presumably continue to operate as a PMC while the Russian branch is absorbed into the Russian forces.

How many aircraft were taken out? 

[Night Tripper]

10 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said:

How many aircraft were taken out? 

Nobody died I can assure you that much.

the move to put Prigozhin into Belarus allows a manoeuvre into the north 

Ever heard of a person accused of high treason 'exiled' to a friendly and with all armament and troops with him?

me neither 

[MerchantNavy]

25 minutes ago, Night Tripper said:

Nobody died I can assure you that much.

the move to put Prigozhin into Belarus allows a manoeuvre into the north 

Ever heard of a person accused of high treason 'exiled' to a friendly and with all armament and troops with him?

me neither 

Find it difficult believe no casualties if multiple aircraft were taken out. The only footage I saw was a missed shot on a heli yet Russian channels are reporting of take-outs without clear numbers.

 

With that said, the entire scenario does seem odd. How does he end up from almost 200km to Moscow to now approximately 100km from Kiev.

 

Unless you work with Russia's agency, you are also guessing.

 

 

[Staffsknot]

1 hour ago, Night Tripper said:

Ever heard of a person accused of high treason 'exiled' to a friendly and with all armament and troops with him?

me neither 

Napoleon... exiled to Elba with personal guard picked from remnants of his Old Guard and established a small army and navy as Emperor of Corsica... shortly before escaping

Charles I intially left in command of a personal army if he accepted constitutional monarchy, effectively exiled from supreme power in his own country, he legged it in 1647 and refused the deal so they tried him and executed him.

There are numerous examples

Keep telling you read a history book.

[Bob8]

8 hours ago, Staffsknot said:

Napoleon... exiled to Elba with personal guard picked from remnants of his Old Guard and established a small army and navy as Emperor of Corsica... shortly before escaping

Charles I intially left in command of a personal army if he accepted constitutional monarchy, effectively exiled from supreme power in his own country, he legged it in 1647 and refused the deal so they tried him and executed him.

There are numerous examples

Keep telling you read a history book.

Even the French Revolution was the same. It is pretty typical. 

[70PC]

11 hours ago, Night Tripper said:

Nobody died I can assure you that much.

the move to put Prigozhin into Belarus allows a manoeuvre into the north 

Ever heard of a person accused of high treason 'exiled' to a friendly and with all armament and troops with him?

me neither 

The likely reason for Prigozhin's safe passage was that a fight to the death in Moscow stood to bring down Putin's government. It would have also cost Prigozhin his life unless Russian troops changed sides but there is little love lost between Wagner and the Russian army. The fact that Putin failed to take stronger action is evidence of his loss of power.  

[Trampa501]

20 minutes ago, 70PC said:

The likely reason for Prigozhin's safe passage was that a fight to the death in Moscow stood to bring down Putin's government. It would have also cost Prigozhin his life unless Russian troops changed sides but there is little love lost between Wagner and the Russian army. The fact that Putin failed to take stronger action is evidence of his loss of power.  

Easy to see Putin react now with purges. And that's when the whole system will crumble. We are now approaching the most fragile (and most dangerous) stage of the conflict. 

[pig]

1 hour ago, Trampa501 said:

Easy to see Putin react now with purges. And that's when the whole system will crumble. We are now approaching the most fragile (and most dangerous) stage of the conflict. 

Then again who’s  he going to purge ? The principle people who know the war is bullsh1t and who have had their thoughts crystallised by Prigozhin are going to be the people fighting the war ….

[pig]

13 hours ago, Night Tripper said:

Nobody died I can assure you that much.

the move to put Prigozhin into Belarus allows a manoeuvre into the north 

Ever heard of a person accused of high treason 'exiled' to a friendly and with all armament and troops with him?

me neither 

So this is a  CIA plot to invade Ukraine from Belarus after Russia has nuked it ?

[Staffsknot]

7 hours ago, pig said:

So this is a  CIA plot to invade Ukraine from Belarus after Russia has nuked it ?

And Putin is in the Kremlin... just presenting from a completely different decorated room...

[Staffsknot]

8 hours ago, pig said:

Then again who’s  he going to purge ? The principle people who know the war is bullsh1t and who have had their thoughts crystallised by Prigozhin are going to be the people fighting the war ….

Anyone who didn't run to his aid, anyone with a private army, then has to take out the hardliners who are going to get rid of him if he doesn't.

[Riedquat]

15 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

Anyone who didn't run to his aid, anyone with a private army, then has to take out the hardliners who are going to get rid of him if he doesn't.

Can he risk that? They may now feel more confident about turning on him if he tries to purge them.

[miguel]

23 hours ago, Flat Bear said:

Are you posting just for the salary? If you do not care but keep posting and following these threads then it has to be the only reason. Just doing your job.

Night Tripper has made it very clear he is a Putin supporter through and through. He has been making a lot of mistakes and giving away much of the Kremlins thoughts. He knows what is going on in the Kremlin before it has been made public, or more accurately, in the western press. He posts before he thinks and this is all very insightful. It is worrying that he has been talking about nuclear weapons being deployed in Ukraine and that the thoughts are there will, can not be, any reprisal. It lets us know how totally devoid of reality Putin actually is.

Who is Night Tripper? Where is he based? He is too emotional and makes too many fundamental mistakes to be a bot, but he does get information before it is available. Interesting.

He has a similar style to that 'Prufessional' (shthead) who used to post on here. He didn't last long. He really did talk bllocks. Tried to suggest that the move on Kiev was feint. Lol!!!

Yeah but ars*hole night shtter is a typical Putler patsy - lot of talk about nukes and genocide. He's just a vile piece of sht. 

Edited June 26, 2023 by miguel

[Riedquat]

On 25/06/2023 at 19:46, Flat Bear said:

Are you posting just for the salary? If you do not care but keep posting and following these threads then it has to be the only reason. Just doing your job.

Night Tripper has made it very clear he is a Putin supporter through and through. He has been making a lot of mistakes and giving away much of the Kremlins thoughts. He knows what is going on in the Kremlin before it has been made public, or more accurately, in the western press. He posts before he thinks and this is all very insightful. It is worrying that he has been talking about nuclear weapons being deployed in Ukraine and that the thoughts are there will, can not be, any reprisal. It lets us know how totally devoid of reality Putin actually is.

Who is Night Tripper? Where is he based? He is too emotional and makes too many fundamental mistakes to be a bot, but he does get information before it is available. Interesting.

I think you're giving him a bit too much credit there. I still think a lot of them are more likely to be deranged individuals than paid trolls (if paid they'd have realised they're wasting their time and money on here and head off for somewhere more productive). An obsessive watch of everything posted everywhere can turn up details a little before the news picks them up. Do you think someone like that is likely to be in a position privy to anything that shouldn't have yet been said, yet all they're doing with it is posting on some random websites?

Edited June 26, 2023 by Riedquat

[Will!]

1 hour ago, Riedquat said:

Do you think someone like that is likely to be in a position privy to anything that shouldn't have yet been said, yet all they're doing with it is posting on some random websites?

I like to think that trying to bring about a house price crash is one of Putin’s efforts to wage economic war on the UK.

[Staffsknot]

2 hours ago, Riedquat said:

Can he risk that? They may now feel more confident about turning on him if he tries to purge them.

That's why he's f!!ked if hedoesn't

[Riedquat]

4 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

That's why he's f!!ked if hedoesn't

That's why he's fvcked either way most likely. It might take quite some time but this could well have been the tipping point.

[Fat Winston]

12 hours ago, Trampa501 said:

Easy to see Putin react now with purges. And that's when the whole system will crumble. We are now approaching the most fragile (and most dangerous) stage of the conflict. 

What is this drivel? although I will agree, we are the most dangerous stage of the conflict. There has only been one country that has ever used nuclear weapons on a population, it established world dominance the first time it used them and may end the world the next time it uses them

 

19 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

That's why he's fvcked either way most likely. It might take quite some time but this could well have been the tipping point.

we are all fukced unless this situation deescalates and it wont take any time at all

[Staffsknot]

16 minutes ago, Fat Winston said:

What is this drivel?

Was this the TLDR to what you wrote afterwards

[Riedquat]

44 minutes ago, Fat Winston said:

we are all fukced unless this situation deescalates and it wont take any time at all

Which is easily done by Russia withdrawing from Ukraine. Anything else doesn't lead to de-escalation, it leads to further aggressive expansion of the sort Russia is engaging in there, and those trying to shift the blame away by saying others should "de-escalate" are either arguing for appeasement (been tried for years, hasn't worked any better with Putin than it did with Hitler; indeed, tougher responses earlier to e.g. the theft of Crimea would probably have stopped things going this far), or just want Russia's land-grab to go unchallenged.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Riedquat

[Drat]

On 25/06/2023 at 21:35, Night Tripper said:

Nobody died I can assure you that much.

So you are calling Putin a liar?

[debtslave]

3 hours ago, Drat said:

So you are calling Putin a liar?

His comment did not age well 🤣

[Riedquat]

7 hours ago, debtslave said:

His comment did not age well 🤣

Seems strangely quiet on this

[satsuma]

2 hours ago, Riedquat said:

Seems strangely quiet on this

I heard someone say the rate of mental collapse in the troll farms has reached an epidemic, the trolls have been found to nest under their desks, the only thing they say is "wibble wibble, Ill take a dribble from PooTins wrinkly dong".  There is no clear plan as to what the international community will do with these unfortunate individuals, the general feeling is they should but accommodated in some Knightsbridge hotel, at the cost of the taxpayer, and given three meals a day.  Once they are calm a job in the local call centre awaits.