Council estate capitalist Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Freezer? Best place for it said: From experience, not taking leave was a very good indicator of someone taking backhanders. That, with a slimey aversion to graft, were two opposites that didn’t sit well. The curse of the crooked accountant, Can't enjoy the proceeds of their crookedness because if they take holiday someone else will look at the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 used to get 27 plus BH only used to work 4 hrs on a friday also and have at least 2 weeks off sick a year. can you see why i don`t work. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Contractually I get 27 (but I'm on a slightly older more generous contract - new employees would get 25) + bank holidays. We are also allowed to take unpaid leave if we want to (or 'buying holiday' as it's badged) to top up the 25-27 days leave up to 30 days (so I can have 3 unpaid days, a new starter can get 5). In addition we usually also get 1 day per year discretionary leave (usually Christmas Eve, which I guess the Company figures everyone would doss about on and leave early anyway, so they might as well give it as holiday and get kudos for it!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 In my career I have had between 3 (in the 90s and I am not joking) plus bank holidays (I think the scum bags have gone bankrupt since then) and 31 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiltedjen Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 30 days all in half day Fridays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Justice Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 When i lived in the UK, I got 35 days. I moved to Canada 10 years ago and went down to 2 weeks. I now live in the US and get 4 weeks, which is considered good here. Starters here typically get three weeks, but i know of some companies that give 1 week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisyphal Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Freezer? Best place for it said: From experience, not taking leave was a very good indicator of someone taking backhanders. That, with a slimey aversion to graft, were two opposites that didn’t sit well. It sounds counterintuitive, but it's correct. I had to do some online training about Whistleblowing and Bribery. One of the criteria for suspicion was not taking leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Clint Justice said: When i lived in the UK, I got 35 days. I moved to Canada 10 years ago and went down to 2 weeks. I now live in the US and get 4 weeks, which is considered good here. Starters here typically get three weeks, but i know of some companies that give 1 week! I’ve heard US is tough for ‘vacay’ - part of the reason they don't bother with passports/travelling the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, PeanutButter said: I’ve heard US is tough for ‘vacay’ - part of the reason they don't bother with passports/travelling the world? 10 days, plus half a day for each year you work up to 20 is considered ok. In the 90s I worked for a German/American firm. I was in Germany so got 35 days leave, the Americans got 15 (very progressive) but they had to work 5hrs a week longer to justify their "extra" holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyguy Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Freezer? Best place for it said: From experience, not taking leave was a very good indicator of someone taking backhanders. That, with a slimey aversion to graft, were two opposites that didn’t sit well. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyguy Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 everyone who works for me get 30 days plus bank hols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 American business and holiday entitlements are hilarious. The country is bankrupt and decaying fast, and meanwhile they all work themselves to death as if it was really important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spaniard Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I am now retired and as such I get no holidays whatsoever. I am at the beck and call of my (adult) children and grandchildren 365 days per year. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindler Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Spaniard said: I am now retired and as such I get no holidays whatsoever. I am at the beck and call of my (adult) children and grandchildren 365 days per year. ☹️ not only do i fear retirement for multiple reasons your post got me thinking...keep some kind of job and be vague about it....and your working hours....also if i ever won the lottery ive always thought dont tell anyone....run a little business or pretend to ...take lots of "business trips" rent a small office somewhere just so people cant put you in a pigeon hole...be an international man of mystery...unfortunately theyve got you nailed as a free resource..due to complete disclosure......odd job man for free..no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindler Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Errol said: American business and holiday entitlements are hilarious. The country is bankrupt and decaying fast, and meanwhile they all work themselves to death as if it was really important. just in Miami this January.....the US is just not my cup of tea...apart from English its really an alien place i find...i am in awe of it or really what it used to be and the geography....but i see a country in decline and captured by vested interests....it is no democracy....just the attempts to impeach a sitting president show that....Maxine Waters joyfully cried she would use any thing she could to get the guy impeached...liberals they truly suck they are the new nazis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghostly said: I heard that although people receive leave days in the US they don't use them for fear of being sacked. Is that correct? I also heard they don’t take sick days for same reason. Plenty of states where you can be fired and told to leave same day, no severance. They broke the unions and still take it as point of pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughjass Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Someone at work says that the Schools in the States teach 46weeks a year. Is this right? There are a lot of things about the States that don't seem that great. No wonder they have trailer parks. Personally I get 29 days plus Bank holidays in Local government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregBowman Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, PeanutButter said: I also heard they don’t take sick days for same reason. Plenty of states where you can be fired and told to leave same day, no severance. They broke the unions and still take it as point of pride. Nothing to do with Unions its the US way. My son is a Sales Director in New York in tech which was never unionised. But don't believe all you read in our socialist Utopia press. He is over here at the moment to play golf at a tournament. Which contributes to his European style holidays about 6 weeks a year - even though the official is about 3. You are encouraged as long as you are hitting targets to have businesses or hustles on the side up. Tax is low even into taking account his healthcare contribution. My understanding is that if you are prepared to work the rewards are worth it, if you are not then you suffer the consequences. His hours seem broadly similar to his UK job about 8-6 every day no weekends. Frankly as someone who has ran his own business for nearly thirty years - seems ok to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregBowman Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Errol said: American business and holiday entitlements are hilarious. The country is bankrupt and decaying fast, and meanwhile they all work themselves to death as if it was really important. As my previous post - they don't as well as my son being in New York I was in IBM before I started my own business. Semi and unskilled work has got harder in both our countries. Read this it spells it out: Hired: Six Months Undercover in Low-Wage Britain by James Bloodworth Edited April 11, 2019 by GregBowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Justice Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Ghostly said: I heard that although people receive leave days in the US they don't use them for fear of being sacked. Is that correct? I use all of my vacation even though some of my direct reports choose not to. I encourage them to do so but there seems to be an aversion to it. Things are not as bad here working conditions-wise as sometimes it is made out to be. I work about 40-45 hours per week with no weekends. There is mostly full employment as well which helps too I guess, to the extent that business that previously would never hire ex-cons are now having to do so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalmike Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Ten days for which not paid, plus working 55 plus hours a week and no sick pay, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotblack42 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 20 days pro rata as working 4x7.5 which just qualifies as full time apparently. Public holidays. Statutory sick. 5 days paid for bereavement of parent, sibling or child. 1 day for funeral of a specified range of relatives. Pay moderate. Not rushing to look elsewhere.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, GregBowman said: You are encouraged as long as you are hitting targets to have businesses or hustles on the side up. Tax is low even into taking account his healthcare contribution. My understanding is that if you are prepared to work the rewards are worth it, if you are not then you suffer the consequences. His hours seem broadly similar to his UK job about 8-6 every day no weekends. Frankly as someone who has ran his own business for nearly thirty years - seems ok to me If you've ever watched Undercover Boss US version the employees always stress how GRATEFUL they are to have the job and how they THANK GAWD for it. Then they mention the other 2 jobs they need to work to 'make rent'. But it's all worth it because #AmericanDream. I'm sure that for well educated people who get a good start and keep up the momentum it's fine but I'm sceptical of the sink or swim/individualist mindset. Here's a US/UK tax comparison (from before Trump changed the system) https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/may/27/tax-britons-pay-europe-australia-us - quite interesting. 2 hours ago, royalmike said: Ten days for which not paid, plus working 55 plus hours a week and no sick pay, Canada Ouch! 8 hours ago, Clint Justice said: I use all of my vacation even though some of my direct reports choose not to. I encourage them to do so but there seems to be an aversion to it. Are they worried about the perception that they're not hard workers, or that their jobs are precarious? Japan also has a huge problem of workers refusing to take holiday. Japan is poised to force workers to take at least five days of paid vacation a year, a compromise between employers' groups calling for three and labor unions that wanted eight. Edited April 12, 2019 by PeanutButter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 This thread sounds like slave labour by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, longgone said: This thread sounds like slave labour by the minute. It makes the UK look not too bad. Of course the UK was a great place to live until Blair and Brown put the accelerator down to make houses more expensive. They even (pathfinder) spent money to make cheap houses in Liverpool more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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