oracle Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) They've done the same with houses but have also increased the price. Seriously though, I wonder if the ONS takes this shrinkage in size into account when calculating inflation? Somehow I suspect not it probably has 6 pack of crisps and doesn't care if the packs inside are 25g or 35g. no they don't...that's why official inflation has stayed so low. the "official" basket of goods will say : 1 *4 roll pack of toilet tissue 3* mars bars 2* chicken breast fillets 1* packet of egg noodles 1* 12 pack of beef stock cubes etc etc they can mix and match around the brands etc to fiddle the index down, because they know most people will generally stick to one known brand of stuff they like......ie deodorant, because they like the smell/taste. Edited April 21, 2016 by oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 It has got to the stage where I now weigh toilet rolls on the scales in fruit and veg area, work out the value by weight....most of them are full of air with huge holes in the tube.....on the continent you can buy compact toilet rolls, very much better value for money and not such a waste of money and space..... :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I see the war against the discounters continues. In Asda, Tesco, the big brands are sending in their own people to make sure their product is on the shelf, by pulling forward, and filling up. Unilever, and Wikinson Sword reps above, I've seen them on more than a few occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombleached Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Actually a reduction of about 9.64%. Yep, they did it the wrong way round -((332-300)/300) instead of the correct way ((300-332)/300) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I see the war against the discounters continues. In Asda, Tesco, the big brands are sending in their own people to make sure their product is on the shelf, by pulling forward, and filling up. Unilever, and Wikinson Sword reps above, I've seen them on more than a few occasions. What a rewarding career. I do hope they have degrees at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) I see the war against the discounters continues. In Asda, Tesco, the big brands are sending in their own people to make sure their product is on the shelf, by pulling forward, and filling up. Unilever, and Wikinson Sword reps above, I've seen them on more than a few occasions. Why would the big stores promoting that they cannot be beaten on the price of branded goods when very many people have stopped purchasing branded stuff or cut down to maybe one or two products. Who cares what name it has.....people now want quality, something that is healthy and value for money.....many branded goods offer neither........word of mouth, taste, weight, and most importantly ingredients.....as they say, what you are buying is written in the small print....in the news recently saying certain well known pre-made sauces are full of salt, sugar and fat......processed. Edit:....always found certain razors very expensive for what they are.....there must be better more effective alternatives? Edited April 26, 2016 by winkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume The Opposite Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 One thing I have found is that Lynx dry in Asda is £2. I seem to remember normal Lynx has always been £3 or above. Sadly I can't eat deodorant so in the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoperational Bumblebee Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Edit:....always found certain razors very expensive for what they are.....there must be better more effective alternatives? Double-edged razor; get a razor from Merkur or Muhle (£20 to £30 new) and use disposable blades (about £2 to £4 for 10) with a brush (£3 upwards for synthetic) and Palmolive shave stick (50p). Much better shave, but a small learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGaz Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 disposable blades (about £2 to £4 for 10) 8 Quid for 100 : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/141165782507?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1006702&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-131843277186&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Honey, I Shrunk the Groceries!! On today’s episode of Double Down, hosts Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert are joined by best selling author, Pippa Malmgren, to discuss ‘shrinkflation:’ when deflation in grocery packaging size masks real inflation in prices. http://sputniknews.com/radio_double_down/20160510/1039362407/honey-i-shrunk-the-groceries.html Edited May 10, 2016 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 To be fair, there's such pressure around both salt & sugar levels, that sometimes the only way to hit the target is to reduce the portion sizes! At gate 2 of the development process, the retailer buyers decide the RSP (retail sales price). This is the single biggest determinant of how much goes into the pack. In the interest of full disclosure, I supplied the retailers with own brand foods for 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Shrinkflation: 10 food products that have got smaller since Brexit http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/shrinkflation-10-food-products-have-got-smaller-since-brexit/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuBrit Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 10/5/2016 at 4:21 PM, John The Pessimist said: To be fair, there's such pressure around both salt & sugar levels, that sometimes the only way to hit the target is to reduce the portion sizes! At gate 2 of the development process, the retailer buyers decide the RSP (retail sales price). This is the single biggest determinant of how much goes into the pack. In the interest of full disclosure, I supplied the retailers with own brand foods for 6 years. I don't have a problem with chocolate shrinkflation. When you're pushing on to middle age like I am and in danger of becoming a fat b*stard, then a reduction in sugar is no bad thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, NuBrit said: I don't have a problem with chocolate shrinkflation. It isn't a question of whether people have a problem with it or not. I would like a choice. There should be two types of product - the one kept the same size with increased price, and a smaller one with a lower price. Then people can choose. Edited February 20, 2017 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Errol said: It isn't a question of whether people have a problem with it or not. I would like a choice. Their should be two types of product - the one kept the same size with increased price, and a smaller one with a lower price. Then people can choose. But then the company will need two moulds on the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This time Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, Errol said: Shrinkflation: 10 food products that have got smaller since Brexit http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/shrinkflation-10-food-products-have-got-smaller-since-brexit/ The last one on the list is wrong (as can be seen from the picture that comes with it). Sainsbury's actually increased the pack size of the taste the difference sausages from six large sausages or 12 chipolatas to eight large sausages or 16 chipolatas in a pack. I think they even made them cheaper per sausage - the 6/12 packs were £2.50 IIRC and the 8/16 packs are £3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Moved to Lidl and Aldi. Now getting much more for much less. C'est La Vie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomsilver Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 8:48 PM, 200p said: I see the war against the discounters continues. In Asda, Tesco, the big brands are sending in their own people to make sure their product is on the shelf, by pulling forward, and filling up. Unilever, and Wikinson Sword reps above, I've seen them on more than a few occasions. This has always happened. MrsLTS has employed merchandisers to conduct store visits in her last two companies and partly this is to ensure the retailers stick to their side of the bargain with displays and promotions. The pay is ~£25k plus liveried van and every employee in this role has taken the pee as it's not a very rigid or monitored role. In her new job 3 people like this were some of the very first to go. As for Aldi/Lidl... I think they perpetuated the old wives tale that you'll save 30% on your shopping basket as it's simply not true. They don't compare like-for-like, worse than the ONS for manipulating figures. Substituting branded goods for their own in the comparisons. Chocolate and other snacks maybe but everything else very little difference in savings and not worth the downgrade in shopper experience. Aldi quality is not up to the standard of the big for though Lidl probably is. They've been guilty of shrinkflation too. Personally, I support Sainsbury's as a responsible retailer and value their presence as a shareholder. We all have a stake in these UK listed companies somehow (pension funds) and should not pretend they or capitalism is evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 +1. I wondered round an Aldi about a year ago and tbh the £/kg/ml prices etc for just about everything id normally buy was pretty much identical. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Roady Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The best choco shrinking I have seen is Terrys Chocolate Oranges, the segments are concave now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Frank Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, TheCountOfNowhere said: Moved to Lidl and Aldi. Now getting much more for much less. C'est La Vie. They're German Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Frank Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 4/21/2016 at 6:09 PM, oracle said: no they don't...that's why official inflation has stayed so low. the "official" basket of goods will say : 1 *4 roll pack of toilet tissue 3* mars bars 2* chicken breast fillets 1* packet of egg noodles 1* 12 pack of beef stock cubes etc etc they can mix and match around the brands etc to fiddle the index down, because they know most people will generally stick to one known brand of stuff they like......ie deodorant, because they like the smell/taste. Nonsense. Of course they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Roman Roady said: The best choco shrinking I have seen is Terrys Chocolate Oranges, the segments are concave now. Chocolate Oranges are tiny now. Such a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, This time said: The last one on the list is wrong (as can be seen from the picture that comes with it). Sainsbury's actually increased the pack size of the taste the difference sausages from six large sausages or 12 chipolatas to eight large sausages or 16 chipolatas in a pack. I think they even made them cheaper per sausage - the 6/12 packs were £2.50 IIRC and the 8/16 packs are £3. Wholesale pork prices have crashed since the sanctions were placed on Russia, which had been a significant export market for European pork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 How much smaller can these things get? Is there a limit? Eventually a Cadbury bar will be the size of a 10p coin. Cadbury says chocolate could get smaller after Brexit https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/24/cadbury-warns-chocolate-could-get-smaller-after-brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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