winkie Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 How many have either passport or driving licence or OAP travel pass? If not and want to vote applied for official photo ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AThirdWay Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Have passport, driving licence and bus pass... Doesn't mean I want to show them to vote tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former postman Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I am going to argue with the lady behind the table and accuse her of being a Tory before showing my ID and voting anyway. The Tories are attempting to disenfranchise a whole swathe of the UK under the guise of "fixing a security issue" that does not even exist. I am going to do my bit toward what I predict will be a massive fiasco and an own goal for the Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I'll break the habit of a lifetime and actually post something useful. https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate You can go here if you have no ID and get a voter authority certificate. 25th of April is last chance, so plenty of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, AThirdWay said: Have passport, driving licence and bus pass... Doesn't mean I want to show them to vote tho! Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 Important all people have a vote, are able to vote. Will be interesting to find out how many turned away for not having the right ID with them......hope those figures are published. IMO surely postal votes are more open to abuse or fraud than going to vote in person, such as others voting on someone else's behalf....... article from 2014. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26520836 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftb_fml Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) I have the necessary papers to participate in the establishment-ordained cherade... once past the enforcers, 50/50 my vote will be cast via a big jizzing caracature phallus. I doubt that ultimately my opinion will have any bearing on our overlords' chosen trajectory. Edited March 31, 2023 by ftb_fml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Is this designed to stop the underclass from voting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 Why a pensioners bus pass eligible but not a student id card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocha Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, fellow said: Is this designed to stop the underclass from voting? As free voter ID is available to anyone who wants it, the only people it will prevent from voting are people who wouldn't have been bothered about voting anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 52 minutes ago, winkie said: Why a pensioners bus pass eligible but not a student id card? Because the old are treated preferentially and their vote has been traditionally more coveted? 1 hour ago, Postman said: under the guise of "fixing a security issue" that does not even exist. I thought postal voting was where the big fraud risk was where having ID has little meaning. It does reek of fixing a problem that doesn't exist becuase it's easy, while missing the real risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocha Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, nightowl said: Because the old are treated preferentially and their vote has been traditionally more coveted? I thought postal voting was where the big fraud risk was where having ID has little meaning. It does reek of fixing a problem that doesn't exist becuase it's easy, while missing the real risk. I'd have preferred them to start with postal voting and then move onto voter ID, but once voter ID has been introduced then the focus can move to postal voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, fellow said: Is this designed to stop the underclass from voting? Young people, or rather be another slight bump in the road. Those that are determined will vote. Those that have travelled abroad or drive will be OK. I am not sure that many 18 year olds would have passed both these hurdles when I was that age. 1 hour ago, winkie said: Why a pensioners bus pass eligible but not a student id card? Because the intent is to stop young people voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, nightowl said: Because the old are treated preferentially and their vote has been traditionally more coveted? I thought postal voting was where the big fraud risk was where having ID has little meaning. It does reek of fixing a problem that doesn't exist becuase it's easy, while missing the real risk. Agree.....a degree of manipulation.......what is wrong with someone bringing their polling card that was posted to their home address along with a debt or credit card with matching name....... something more underlying going on. A forerunner to bringing in a universal national ID card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob8 said: Young people, or rather be another slight bump in the road. Those that are determined will vote. Those that have travelled abroad or drive will be OK. I am not sure that many 18 year olds would have passed both these hurdles when I was that age. Because the intent is to stop young people voting. I know for a fact, many young people and older people also do not drive in London, they don't need to......holding a passport, not everyone has one of those for sure. Another hurdle is knowing where to go and getting there to get a photo for the id card, and of course there is the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunketh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 There seem to be many MANY options for ID if you are over 60. Cant think why #rightwinggerrimanderingscum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunketh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Lets take a hint from Glasto. Submit a photo when going on the electoral roll. That way they could print your ID on the useless poll card that comes through the post (that everyone takes along anyway), make it useful and solve the "problem" Or was that not the objective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, winkie said: I know for a fact, many young people and older people also do not drive in London, they don't need to......holding a passport, not everyone has one of those for sure. Another hurdle is knowing where to go and getting there to get a photo for the id card, and of course there is the price. I doubt blocking younger people out of the process is the intention but there won't be too much concerns about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunketh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, nightowl said: I doubt blocking younger people out of the process is the intention but there won't be too much concerns about this. no, blocking the poor out is the objective. Its the republican playbook 101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chunketh said: no, blocking the poor out is the objective. Its the republican playbook 101. They've unofficially achieved it anyway by all parties being superficially pensioner parties of some description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunketh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nightowl said: They've unofficially achieved it anyway by all parties being superficially pensioner parties of some description. oh deffo. The reasons behind this are transparently obvious. Much like housing 5000 asylum seekers in army camps, it will do ****** all but will rally the ******wits that sex wee for the Daily Wail. This is a government of division now. They have no track record of achievements, only shit they want to sweep under the carpet. Morally corrupt, bereft of direction, the only thing they have is to divide the population against each other in the hope of no one holding them to account. They ******ing disgust me. Edited March 31, 2023 by Chunketh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTINX9 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, fellow said: Is this designed to stop the underclass from voting? They don’t vote anyway - local elections barely have 30 per cent turnout even on current rules. It’s only the dedicated who bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Cocha said: As free voter ID is available to anyone who wants it, the only people it will prevent from voting are people who wouldn't have been bothered about voting anyway. Are you really dim enough to believe that. The only reason this is being introduced is because the people in charge believe it will favour them. May only be a 1% bias but that could make a difference in many seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunketh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, MARTINX9 said: They don’t vote anyway - local elections barely have 30 per cent turnout even on current rules. It’s only the dedicated who bother. that makes it ok then eh! ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeless Millionaire Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 hours ago, fellow said: Is this designed to stop the underclass from voting? Frankly? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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