crash-and-burn Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Turns out the person who manhandled Chris Whitty for a selfie was an estate agent, now an ex-estate agent of course! Whatever you think of Chris Whitty, I don't think anyone deserves to be humiliated or manhandled in such a fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbathpc Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I feel like what these lads did was bad, but the retribution is not going to fit the crime. It's basically life over for these two at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, crash-and-burn said: Whatever you think of Chris Whitty, I don't think anyone deserves to be humiliated or manhandled in such a fashion. I disagree. He participates in the forced humiliation of the whole country with the CCPV rules; why should he endure some of his own medicine? When someone told me about the story and how sorry they felt for *****-in-a-suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, crash-and-burn said: Turns out the person who manhandled Chris Whitty for a selfie was an estate agent, now an ex-estate agent of course! Whatever you think of Chris Whitty, I don't think anyone deserves to be humiliated or manhandled in such a fashion. Eh? Why would anyone think anything negative about Chris for doing his damn job? That stupid covidiot thug should be in sentenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drat Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Their excuse was mainly that they wanted a selfie. Sums up most anti-vaxers ("Look at me! I am so alternative!"). Frickin idiots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Drat said: Their excuse was mainly that they wanted a selfie. Sums up most anti-vaxers ("Look at me! I am so alternative!"). Frickin idiots... Exactly this. Fecking prks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greater Fool Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I'm guessing alcohol was probably involved, he wouldn't say boo to a goose normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 That poor soul, losing his jobs at times like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep1 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, crash-and-burn said: Turns out the person who manhandled Chris Whitty for a selfie was an estate agent, now an ex-estate agent of course! Whatever you think of Chris Whitty, I don't think anyone deserves to be humiliated or manhandled in such a fashion. Not even Boris the Johnson? Just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancTom Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Tiger131 said: I'm guessing alcohol was probably involved, he wouldn't say boo to a goose normally. Yes the story says alcohol was involved. May well be the case. When a student, one of the other students I hung around with was exactly like this - polite, respectful of everyone. Until you went to the pub with him. One night he tried to throw me through a window "for a joke". Next day was all apologetic and said it was the alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greater Fool Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, MancTom said: Yes the story says alcohol was involved. May well be the case. When a student, one of the other students I hung around with was exactly like this - polite, respectful of everyone. Until you went to the pub with him. One night he tried to throw me through a window "for a joke". Next day was all apologetic and said it was the alcohol. They are banning the wrong drugs, alcohol has ruined more lives than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, cbathpc said: I feel like what these lads did was bad, but the retribution is not going to fit the crime. It's basically life over for these two at this point Not really - they were drunken idiots and they deserve the abuse that they have been getting, including been sacked (would you want your customers greeted by them tomorrow?) But they are 24. By the time they are 34 no-one will remember this incident. To be honest, a year from now most people will have forgotten it. Yes, they will have to live with Google searches bringing up this yobbery for the rest of their lives. But lots of people have shameful incidents in their past: dropping out of schools, criminal records etc and that isn't "life over". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash-and-burn Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 It is strange how certain drugs are accepted culturally, whereas others are demonised and made illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who am I? Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, crash-and-burn said: It is strange how certain drugs are accepted culturally, whereas others are demonised and made illegal. In a country I used to live in the police helicopters that were used to find the canabis plantations in the bush were funded by the largest beer brewer. Probably tells you everything you need to know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highcontrast Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 To be honest I'm surprised he wasn't a full time BTL scumbag, fits the personality type IMO. But estate agent isn't far behind. Bet he has a one/two house "portfolio" still though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greater Fool Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, crash-and-burn said: It is strange how certain drugs are accepted culturally, whereas others are demonised and made illegal. Exactly, alcohol can turn people into yobs, they wouldn't have done this if they had been smoking or just sober, pubs are everywhere in London, alcohol=good pot=bad does this make any sort of sense either logically or morally? Edited July 1, 2021 by Tiger131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Tiger131 said: Exactly, alcohol can people into yobs, they wouldn't have done this if they had been smoking or just sober. Alcohol lowers inhibitions but doesn't create anything that's not there in the first place, it just lowers the mental barriers that most people keep in place to stop themselves acting in ways that they might. If it's totally against someone's basic nature to hassle someone like this then they won't do it no matter how much they've drunk. Basically alcohol doesn't turn people in to yobs. Anyone who's a yob when drunk is a yob when sober who's just managing to constrain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash-and-burn Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Riedquat said: Alcohol lowers inhibitions but doesn't create anything that's not there in the first place, it just lowers the mental barriers that most people keep in place to stop themselves acting in ways that they might. If it's totally against someone's basic nature to hassle someone like this then they won't do it no matter how much they've drunk. Basically alcohol doesn't turn people in to yobs. Anyone who's a yob when drunk is a yob when sober who's just managing to constrain it. I would agree with that. I'm not much into alcohol, but on the few times where I've gone way past my limits, I've still always been very self-aware of what it is I'm doing, even when I don't have the best bodily control and inhibitions are down. It's not like my moral compass has ever got overwritten by the drink. Who knows if they would have acted out the same if they didn't have a drink inside of them, but it's surely indicative of their character, alcohol or no alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, crash-and-burn said: I would agree with that. I'm not much into alcohol, but on the few times where I've gone way past my limits, I've still always been very self-aware of what it is I'm doing, even when I don't have the best bodily control and inhibitions are down. It's not like my moral compass has ever got overwritten by the drink. Who knows if they would have acted out the same if they didn't have a drink inside of them, but it's surely indicative of their character, alcohol or no alcohol. I'm going somewhat by my own experiences admittedly (and I've plenty of experience with several pints of beer) but I'm the same. I'm actually considerably more cheerful when drunk (at least until I've had enough to start feeling ill); I'd probably be less likely to hassle someone like that who was responsible for something I strongly dislike after I've had a few, not that I want to imply I'm likely to do that sober either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Riedquat said: Alcohol lowers inhibitions but doesn't create anything that's not there in the first place, it just lowers the mental barriers that most people keep in place to stop themselves acting in ways that they might. If it's totally against someone's basic nature to hassle someone like this then they won't do it no matter how much they've drunk. Basically alcohol doesn't turn people in to yobs. Anyone who's a yob when drunk is a yob when sober who's just managing to constrain it. 👆x💯 Alcohol use is no excuse for being a complete and utter c***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) edit: spotted what the red bit actually is and realised MCC was agreeing with me - not used to that Edited July 1, 2021 by Riedquat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greater Fool Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Who am I? said: In a country I used to live in the police helicopters that were used to find the canabis plantations in the bush were funded by the largest beer brewer. Probably tells you everything you need to know about that. If cannabis was easily available I don't think many people would drink, the "feel good" from the cannabinoids is far superior to that from alcohol and the toxic effects (hangover) don't last anywhere near as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tiger131 said: If cannabis was easily available I don't think many people would drink, the "feel good" from the cannabinoids is far superior to that from alcohol and the toxic effects (hangover) don't last anywhere near as long. Drinking isn't only about getting drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tiger131 said: If cannabis was easily available I don't think many people would drink, the "feel good" from the cannabinoids is far superior to that from alcohol and the toxic effects (hangover) don't last anywhere near as long. Everything in moderation. I know enough people who kept going with the cannabis far after the rest of us stopped post university. Hasn't done wonders for their mental health nor general health. Same as people who carry on drinking throughout the week rather than enjoying a drink or three at events or over a meal. On the specific point, cannabis has been freely available in Holland for many years and parts of the USA for several. Hasnt had a material impact on alcohol consumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 14 hours ago, crash-and-burn said: Whatever you think of Chris Whitty, I don't think anyone deserves to be humiliated or manhandled in such a fashion. Except possibly estate agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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