Casual-observer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I thought I'd pop in to the Brexit thread to be informed by the remainers why the shell relocation to London actually proves their point. Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Casual-observer said: I thought I'd pop in to the Brexit thread to be informed by the remainers why the shell relocation to London actually proves their point. Go! Tax. They love their tax avoidance does Shell. Explainer: Why Shell is scrapping its dual listing structure (yahoo.com) Singapore on Thames. No doubt you are pleased as it's another option in your £1.7 billion personal portfolio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, jonb2 said: Tax. They love their tax avoidance does Shell. Explainer: Why Shell is scrapping its dual listing structure (yahoo.com) Singapore on Thames. No doubt you are pleased as it's another option in your £1.7 billion personal portfolio. Great news! Brexit winning again! Though I wish Shell had moved North, rather than London. But its still excellent news. BBC take: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59288593 Edited November 15, 2021 by dryrot add link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, jonb2 said: Tax. They love their tax avoidance does Shell. Explainer: Why Shell is scrapping its dual listing structure (yahoo.com) Singapore on Thames. No doubt you are pleased as it's another option in your £1.7 billion personal portfolio. The unwinding of corporate tax havens like the Netherlands and Ireland will benefit the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said: The unwinding of corporate tax havens like the Netherlands and Ireland will benefit the UK. Shell have a knack of knowing what politicians are thinking before they even think it Still as yet it remains inexplicable why Shell would make this decision when if they referred to the 6270 paged Brexit thread on HPC, they're actually tying themselves to an economic wasteland that's doomed to failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, dryrot said: Great news! Brexit winning again! Though I wish Shell had moved North, rather than London. But its still excellent news. BBC take: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59288593 Why should a dodgy tax-avoiding fossil-fuel dinosaur moving here be good news? I would rather it was Tesla, at least for jobs and exports, but they sensibly went to Berlin instead because of Brexit. Want to know how wonderful a catch Shell is? It's all aggregated here in full bloom. https://royaldutchshellplc.com/category/shell-tax-avoidance/ Singapore-on-Thames. Good thing Leavers are all as wealthy as Jeff Bezos eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Shell is planning to scrap its dual share system and strike “Royal Dutch” from its name as it prepares to move its tax residence from the Netherlands to the UK. ... The move comes months after a court in the Netherlands ruled in May that Shell had to reduce its emissions by 45% by 2030, compared with 2019 levels Perhaps they have found the UK to be less insistent on the pusher of fossil fuels curbing it's activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said: The unwinding of corporate tax havens like the Netherlands and Ireland will benefit the UK. Of course it will. We are the masters of money-laundering and tax-haven-consulting - and it must stay that way. https://spiderswebfilm.com/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/ https://taxjustice.net/2018/11/30/the-spiders-web-documentary-viewed-over-one-million-times-on-youtube/ Good thing these fortunes trickle-down so well. Singapore-on-Thames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, IMHAL said: Shell is planning to scrap its dual share system and strike “Royal Dutch” from its name as it prepares to move its tax residence from the Netherlands to the UK. ... The move comes months after a court in the Netherlands ruled in May that Shell had to reduce its emissions by 45% by 2030, compared with 2019 levels Perhaps they have found the UK to be less insistent on the pusher of fossil fuels curbing it's activities. If Rees-Mogg had a baby with the remaining Koch brother - it would be Shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freki Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 At least I'm glad to see the usual proBrexit around here are still here. So the void you left in the past 2 weeks with the accumulating statistics about how much of a disaster it has been going so far, has not gone unnoticed to your expert eyes. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHorseWaits-NoMore Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Wahey! Brexit must be really cooking now... Oh wait, I guess its a start, regardless of the morality and climate concerns, only a few days after cop26 and all that. But hey, you gotta start somewhere when the damage to benefit ratio is 1000000:1 to the downside. We really need you lot to pull your fingers out and put your back into it, after all its been costing us a lot of treasure so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Casual-observer said: Shell have a knack of knowing what politicians are thinking before they even think it Still as yet it remains inexplicable why Shell would make this decision when if they referred to the 6270 paged Brexit thread on HPC, they're actually tying themselves to an economic wasteland that's doomed to failure. Because it makes its money overseas along with many listed in London on FTSE100. The reason the FTSE often goes up when pound tanks is your profits look better amongst other things. So hitching your wagon to London probably is a good move if you want to look really successful and the home currency doesn't perform. But the main one is we are pushing opening new oil sites while Europe is trying to push emissions down and there's less chance of us going after tax aggressively Edited November 15, 2021 by Staffsknot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, Freki said: At least I'm glad to see the usual proBrexit around here are still here. So the void you left in the past 2 weeks with the accumulating statistics about how much of a disaster it has been going so far, has not gone unnoticed to your expert eyes. 👀 Isn't that normally called having a life? Most normal people have moved on in life, rather than hanging around a HPC thread dedicated to Brexit I have no doubt remainers will still be beating their fists on this thread twenty years from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugsbody Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: I have no doubt remainers will still be beating their fists on this thread twenty years from now Remainers have learned how to win from brexiters. Invent lie after lie and whinge for decades. Worked in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, dugsbody said: Remainers have learned how to win from brexiters. Invent lie after lie and whinge for decades. Worked in the end. And to echo remainers, re-joining the EU is now a far right campaign cheered on by fringe nutters and fruit loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freki Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: Isn't that normally called having a life? Where did you lot go to? Learning how to fold tin foil hat? The 3 of you trumpeting today about Shell is quite a contrast to the deafening silence it's been around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Freki said: Where did you lot go to? Learning how to fold tin foil hat? The 3 of you trumpeting today about Shell is quite a contrast to the deafening silence it's been around here. On the contrary, I merely asked how this inexplicable contrary event happened despite upteen pages of the bitter remainers assuring me investment to the UK would dry up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 A local authority has revealed that it is struggling to deliver highways construction projects because of a shortage of engineers likened to the national haulier crisis. A key figure at Essex County Council said job adverts were going unanswered as the local authority tried to ramp up its work on the roads. Vicky Presland said “I know people don’t want to hear it but we are finding it extremely difficult to recruit at the moment. Trying to increase resource in the staffing market we are currently in is extremely difficult.” For one initiative, the council had only managed to hire two people after five months of trying – and both left before starting. Mega-projects like High Speed 2 had increased demand at a time when supply was restricted in the wake of the UK’s EU exit and the pandemic, added Presland. "Then there are schemes like HS2 advertising for a thousand engineers – there are just not enough engineering staff to go around. Effectively you’ve almost got bidding wars,” said Presland. “Lorry drivers are hitting the headlines but it is the same in the engineering world. Some of the roles we are advertising on our website we aren’t even getting any applicants for.” newcivilengineer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, jonb2 said: Of course it will. We are the masters of money-laundering and tax-haven-consulting - and it must stay that way. https://spiderswebfilm.com/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/ https://taxjustice.net/2018/11/30/the-spiders-web-documentary-viewed-over-one-million-times-on-youtube/ Good thing these fortunes trickle-down so well. Singapore-on-Thames. So Britain is marginal and irrelevent while simultaneously overseeing half the world's wealth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, thecrashingisles said: The unwinding of corporate tax havens like the Netherlands and Ireland will benefit the UK. 14% gdp growth this year here thanks in part to Brexit Remind the readers where uk is on other hand Edited November 15, 2021 by yelims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, yelims said: 14% gdp growth this year here thanks in part to Brexit Remind the readers where uk is on other hand Irish GDP is a completely phoney measure. If you look at actual individual consumption, you can see that Ireland is actually below the EU average, and significantly poorer than the UK. Edited November 15, 2021 by thecrashingisles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said: So Britain is marginal and irrelevent while simultaneously overseeing half the world's wealth? Global elites don't give a shit about the country that facilitates their laundering and hiding of their (usually) ill-gotten gains. As long as it gets results. If you think running a country on only the fuel of property, speculation and the finance business is a good thing. Well obviously that's up to you and only makes sense if you are part of this system. Of which only .1% are. Personally I would want a fairer society and see nothing to boast about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said: Irish GDP is a completely phoney measure. If you look at actual individual consumption, you can see that Ireland is actually below the EU average, and significantly poorer than the UK. How many foodbanks does Ireland have per capita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Average house price to median yearly salary ratio uk: 8.97 ireland: 6.69 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, jonb2 said: How many foodbanks does Ireland have per capita? Ireland has the highest rate of poverty and social exclusion in the EU for single parent families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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