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  1. Seems Nissan disagree as they have decided to concentrate car production in Sunderland rather than Spain. (I know arguing with Remainers is silly, but [sigh] I'll try again - if the EU impose 10% tariffs on UK car exports to the EU, then the UK will impose a similar tariff on EU-produced cars sold in the UK. Since we import far more cars than we export, we will be quids in. (Note, I'd rather have tariff-free trade between countries, but if the EU choose to impose tariffs, then the UK has a winning hand) (??? "make Sunderland into a world wide export plant but thats pretty impossible. due to the tariffs." EU tariffs wont apply to worldwide exports, will they? And there's a huge world outside the EU...)
  2. Hi We'll see... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/05/22/builders-will-not-slash-house-prices-vistry-boss-insists/ Greg Fitzgerald says the builder formerly known as Bovis 'will continue to hold the line with prices' Housebuilders will not slash prices simply to boost sales in the wake of the coronavirus crisis, the boss of one of Britain’s biggest developers has said. The market will be propped up by the Government's Help to Buy subsidy scheme and ultra-low interest rates, according to Greg Fitzgerald of Vistry Group, formerly known as Bovis – meaning predictions of a price slump as high as 30pc are wide of the mark. Mr Fitzgerald said that builders have learned the lessons of the 2008 financial crash, when prices fell by more than a fifth in 16 months, and are now far more financially secure – meaning they will not have to offer steep discounts in order to bring in cash and survive. Instead of budging on price, he would rather sell far fewer properties than normal. He said: “Builders didn't have great balance sheets [in the financial crisis] and the banks were not as supportive as they have been today, so housebuilders were probably the ones who led the charge. “We have good balance sheets, we have the support of Government and the banks. I would rather sell at between a half and a third of the normal rate of sales and get the prices, rather than sell at the rate I’d like to sell at and have prices fall by 20pc – and I think all housebuilders will do that. “We are not going to chase the market down from a pricing perspective. “It seems an incredible thing to say, but I can see house prices, particularly new ones, not moving much at all – and that's massively helped by Help to Buy.”
  3. er... in the real world, the UK pays £1billion per month to be in the EU. And, also in the real world, football teams are paid to be in the Premier League. (I have no idea who Pascal Lamy is, but he needs a better comparison. )
  4. It's about time for a Realist Bear gold-bashing thread?
  5. The Euro nightmare is the ERM for Southern Europe. But far, far worse - Italy, Spain, Greece etc cannot "crash out"/leave the Euro, like Britain did the ERM, as they have abandoned their own currencies. This has been pointed out over and over (in the main "Brexit" thread for one) but the EU-fanatics simply ignore it. The consequences are dreadful, and getting worse.
  6. Para 1 > could you summarise us all the investment in Spain > an absurd request. Obviously Nissan think Sunderland is a better manufacturing base. The Euro has made Spain (and the other Southern countries) far too expensive; while keeping German workers competitive. Hence the terrible unemployment in the Southern countries, especially compared to Germany (Or is that a lie, from an "an anti-EU propaganda bot"?) Para 2 Ihave replied to this multiple times <sigh:again> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_European_Union Note that when the vote is against the EU wishes, the country votes again... See below Maastricht Treaty Denmark — The 1992 Danish Maastricht Treaty referendum, 2 June 1992, 50.7% against, turnout 83.1% In Denmark, two referendums were held before the treaty of Maastricht passed. The first one rejected the treaty. Denmark — The 1993 Danish Maastricht Treaty referendum, 18 May 1993, 56.7% in favour, turnout 86.5% After the defeat of the treaty in the first refererendum, Denmark negotiated and received four opt-outs from portions of the treaty: Economic and Monetary Union, Union Citizenship, Justice and Home Affairs, and Common Defence. The second referendum approved the treaty amended with the opt-outs. Treaty of Nice, 2001[edit] Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2001 (Ireland), 7 June 2001, 53.9% against, turnout 34.8% In 2001, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Nice, in the so-called "Nice I referendum". In the so-called "Nice II referendum" in 2002, statements on Ireland not having to join a common defence policy and affirming the right to decide on enhanced cooperation in the national parliament were stressed in a special document, resulting in a favourable vote. Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-sixth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 19 October 2002, 62.9% in favour, turnout 49.5% Treaty of Lisbon[edit] Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum. Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland), 12 June 2008, 53.2% against, turnout 53.1% In 2008, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Lisbon. After the first vote by Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Council and the Irish Government released separate documents, referred to as the "Irish Guarantees", that stated the other member countries would not use the possibility in the Treaty to diminish the number of permanent commissioners in favour of a rotating system with fewer commissioners, and not threaten Ireland's military neutrality and rules on abortion.[1][2] With these assurances, the Irish approved the unchanged Lisbon Treaty in a second referendum. Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2 October 2009, 67.1% in favour, turnout 59.0%
  7. Have you thought of a career in medicine? "Your broken left leg will take time to heal, but i'd ignore the abcess on your right leg as its not as serious" Heaven help us
  8. Extraodinary. Dismissed as lies because it does not agree with your prejudices. More "lies" in the same vein - from a lefty source this time: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/nissan-sunderland-plant-brexit-qashqai-uk-car-maker-factory-a9383491.html "Nissan’s commitment to continue investing in the Sunderland plant – the largest car factory in the UK – is a boost to the country’s struggling automotive industry, which has slumped to its lowest output for a decade. The company currently builds its Leaf, Qashqai and Juke models in Britain, but it axed premium Infiniti vehicles last year, cutting output, and has been hit by a slump in diesel demand. Unite national officer Steve Bush said: "The reaffirmation of this already announced investment of £400m in a new production press at the Sunderland plant is a welcome confidence booster for the 6,000-strong workforce. "In challenging economic times, such investment by Nissan is warmly welcomed and a big vote of confidence in the world class, highly skilled workforce that has an excellent record in producing world-class cars." Ashwani Gupta, Nissan’s chief operating officer, said the Sunderland factory “continues to set the standard for productivity and quality” Note that article is full of "no deal" scare stories - typical of the Indy - but the reality is more investmant. And would'nt you rather invest in the free UK than poor Spain, racked by the disastrous Euro?
  9. <double-sigh> @dugsbody I have previously replied to @Dorkins ---- All right then, an election with the one of the major [German] parties having a platform of sharing Euro debt. You know what I mean,. The Germans must either fund the EU South, or leave the Euro. The German people should (IMO) be given a choice. This should have happened at Euro setup but, almost criminally, it was fudged. (Can they continue to fudge it? The latest German court ruling suggests not....) --- But you wont acknowledge this fissure in the EU-setup. Either the Germans agree to fund the EU-South, or Germany leaves the Euro. If there is a fudge (that is, the Germans are forced to pay but are not allowed a vote)... well, it may be OK, but (a) to deny Germans democracy and (b) take their savings w/o their agreement is both wrong and very worrying for the future,
  10. <sigh> I replied directly to your question yesterday... I believe there has been the occasional poll on the EU? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_European_Union (Note that any "No" votes were quickly overruled)
  11. Why won't we be able to set standard for imports post-Brexit? We did it before joining the EU and can do it again afterwards. We can either use the existing EU regs or change them if we wish.
  12. I believe there has been the occasional poll on the EU? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_European_Union (Note that any "No" votes were quickly overruled)
  13. I could refer you to Tim Worstall's piece again: https://www.continentaltelegraph.com/europe/germanys-constitutional-court-puts-the-boot-into-the-euro/ He's very good on the fuzzy line between monetary and fiscal EU policy "To make it very simple indeed every wisher for closer economic union – thus the entire federast apparat – wants Germany to pay for everything. The Germans are rather less sure about this. Thus there is this line in the sand about what the ECB may or many not do in buying and issuing debt. The line, wide and fuzzy though it may be is that monetary policy may not stray over into fiscal and the monetisation of that fiscal policy. And every federast continues to hatch schemes to make exactly this line be crossed." [...] "The basic aim from the federasts is that there should be that common fiscal policy whether it’s gained through a common Treasury or the monetisation of fiscal policy. They don’t care how, getting Germany to pay for everything is the point. Certain parts of the German establishment demur. "
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