byron78 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, FallingAwake said: The big question is, WHY do they have no alternative? If the Germans have tied themselves to dependency on Russian gas, and Germany is at the heart of the EU, this is another great reason not to be part of that monolith. Not that we're doing much better, but we're not dependent on Russia. (I'll accept that's probably more down to geography than any great strategic thinking on the part of our leaders.) Are we not more dependent on Russia? I'm fairly sure the EU has trade deals for Norwegian oil and gas that trump ours. UK also binned off all gas storage a while back (so totally at the mercy of market prices at the moment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, winkie said: Bad news coming, hope and prayers required. Care to be a bit more specific, because posts like that are just plain worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Riedquat said: Care to be a bit more specific, because posts like that are just plain worrying. Most likely Putin telling Macron he means to take the Ukraine completely by force if necessary. And let's face it. Their people will not have that. Vladolf Putler needs taking out pronto now tbh. Edited March 3, 2022 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, byron78 said: Most likely Putin telling Macron he means to take the Ukraine completely by force if necessary. And let's face it. Their people will not have that. Vladolf Putler needs taking out pronto now tbh. Yes making big threats.....what should we collectively do in solidarity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always about entropy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, byron78 said: Are we not more dependent on Russia? I'm fairly sure the EU has trade deals for Norwegian oil and gas that trump ours. UK also binned off all gas storage a while back (so totally at the mercy of market prices at the moment). Most comes form Norway a little bit maybe 5% from Russia via EU We have an LNG terminal and contracts with Qatar. We are by no means shielded just not as dependent as say Germany for example who I believe has no LNG facilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, byron78 said: Most likely Putin telling Macron he means to take the Ukraine completely by force if necessary. And let's face it. Their people will not have that. Vladolf Putler needs taking out pronto now tbh. Thought that's what he had been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always about entropy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, winkie said: Yes making big threats.....what should we collectively do in solidarity? We could have a demonstration with some badly written placards. I'm sure Putin would listen as much as Blair did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The price of 1 oil barrel went from £68 prior the invasion to £83 today. I would like to share your optimism folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, always about entropy said: We could have a demonstration with some badly written placards. I'm sure Putin would listen as much as Blair did. No longer allowed to protest here anymore, anti protest bill......so that won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectors House Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, winkie said: Bad news coming, hope and prayers required. in what way? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Russia just stopped sending gas through one of their pipes to Germany apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, byron78 said: Are we not more dependent on Russia? I'm fairly sure the EU has trade deals for Norwegian oil and gas that trump ours. UK also binned off all gas storage a while back (so totally at the mercy of market prices at the moment). Britain is set to buy £2BILLION of gas from Putin Two ships carrying liquid natural gas from Russia is due to land in Kent this weekend, according to Unison. Britain is still on course to bolster the Kremlin's coffers with £2billion-a-year for imported Russian liquefied natural gas as Brent crude oil today topped $119 per barrel, is now up almost 20% on the week and is expected to rise even higher. UK imports of Russian gas have doubled since 2018 and despite a ban on Russian-owned ships docking in British ports two carrying it are due to arrive at the Isle of Grain in Kent this weekend, according to Unison. Daily Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always about entropy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, NoHPCinTheUK said: The price of 1 oil barrel went from £68 prior the invasion to £83 today. I would like to share your optimism folks. Energy dense fossil fuels are a finite resource that can bring immense benefit to mankind and at the same time immense destruction to our environment. The only way to conserve it and not just p**s it away on jollies to Tenerife for the weekend is if people can no longer afford to waste it. Price is the best way to change behaviour.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, always about entropy said: We could have a demonstration with some badly written placards. I'm sure Putin would listen as much as Blair did. I think Putin has enough on his plate already. Maybe we could offer him a top psychiatrist ? Also a French polisher  with a belt sander - to slowly and gently sand down the length of his tables until he's back to normality ? But we could start in our own backyard with the London laundromat, and completion of the Russia report.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, NoHPCinTheUK said: Russia just stopped sending gas through one of their pipes to Germany apparently Frankly surprised they didn't do it a week ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always about entropy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, rollover said: Britain is set to buy £2BILLION of gas from Putin Two ships carrying liquid natural gas from Russia is due to land in Kent this weekend, according to Unison. Britain is still on course to bolster the Kremlin's coffers with £2billion-a-year for imported Russian liquefied natural gas as Brent crude oil today topped $119 per barrel, is now up almost 20% on the week and is expected to rise even higher. UK imports of Russian gas have doubled since 2018 and despite a ban on Russian-owned ships docking in British ports two carrying it are due to arrive at the Isle of Grain in Kent this weekend, according to Unison. Daily Mail £2billion a year the EU spend that much in a week on Russian oil and gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, anonguest said: Frankly surprised they didn't do it a week ago! Ditto, this will have been expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, always about entropy said: Energy dense fossil fuels are a finite resource that can bring immense benefit to mankind and at the same time immense destruction to our environment. The only way to conserve it and not just p**s it away on jollies to Tenerife for the weekend is if people can no longer afford to waste it. Price is the best way to change behaviour.  There’s enough oil and gas to sustain our civilisation. The oil price before Covid and this invasion wasn’t at $300. That means supply was adequate. Proce is only rising because we have CO2 taxes lockdowns and wars. Let the ******ing market do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always about entropy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, NoHPCinTheUK said: Russia just stopped sending gas through one of their pipes to Germany apparently Hopefully just a maintenance issue if its more than that then its all about to kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, anonguest said: Frankly surprised they didn't do it a week ago! If its being paid for - Russia cratering its own economy given it heavily relies on energy sector - is not required the sanctions are doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectors House Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, winkie said: No longer allowed to protest here anymore, anti protest bill......so that won't work. You can of course send an email to to the Russian News Agency Tass at glav@tass.ru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, always about entropy said: Hopefully just a maintenance issue if its more than that then its all about to kick off. What makes you say that? It being cut off sooner or later will have been an expected Russian tit-for-tat sanctions response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hectors House said: in what way? Â Unrelenting or bluff....... nevertheless wish and hope this will be over soon, like all wars. https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/03/putin-tells-macron-worst-is-yet-to-come-for-ukraine-16210873/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Tory party chairman’s company deletes webpage about Russia ‘elite’ connections The luxury business run by the chairman of the Conservative party has deleted a webpage spelling out its Russian "elite" connections. "Quintessentially Russia has nearly 15 years' experience providing luxury lifestyle management services to Russia's elite and corporate members," the website explained, spelling out the services available. The Conservative party has raised over £70m since Mr Elliot took over as chair, in part by targeting the world's ultra wealthy for contributions. Independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Hectors House said: The Youtube algorithm has struck again, a lot of people are seeing suggestions for the 80's BBC film "Threads", if you have never seen it be warned it is grim! I can remember back in the 80s' that secodndary schools thought it woas a good idea to show to the kids! Traumatised a generation! Pretty sure that Trauma held us back from the brink. One of the kids in my school did p*ss themselves watching it, but it was so scary no one else criticised them for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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