workingpoor Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Imagine going tombstoning off a sea wall and landing on an underwater wrought iron tanktrap! What sort of mining and fortifications were at camber sands during WW2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 1939-45? Pfft. Our coast is riddled with fortifications built to defend against the threat from Napoleon. Grenouille! Merde alors! The Afrikaans word is "kikker", and much more descriptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I keep thinking of the telegram from "swallows and amazons": "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown." Do you think there was really a time when half a dozen pre-teens would have been let out on a lake on their own for a couple of days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ok breaking news this morning, another "swimmer" is missing off camber sands, story made the BBC news at 11am a multi agency search is underway so what time was it reported? I'd say pre 10am? a tad early isnt it? something is going on at camber sands and it aint ordinary daytrippers IMPO. A multi-agency search is under way at Camber Sands for a person thought to be missing in the sea, the RNLI has said. The latest search comes just four days after five men died while on the East Sussex beach on the hottest day of the year. edit: person seen going out at 8am, bit early for a swim isnt it? Did they have a wetsuit on? What is the sea temp at 8am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37208338 What is the tidal situation at 8am at camber? Gone out before the lifeguards came on duty? So as not to be observed? Something is out on the sandbars? something of value? and people are trying to retrieve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 A few years back, a yacht stuffed to gunnels with hash sank off whitby. Did wonders for the out of season tourist trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbonic Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 It probably is, but otoh, it just encourages people to take less and less responsibility for personal safety. Apparently the family are complaining, saying the beach should have been patrolled. No, actually, individual responsibility is what's needed, it ain't a fecking large swimming pool. It is the sea. That would actually be a good warning sign on roads and paths leasing to the sea: "This is NOT a large swimming pool - It is the sea! Respect it." or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 That would actually be a good warning sign on roads and paths leasing to the sea: "This is NOT a large swimming pool - It is the sea! Respect it." or similar. You assume they can read/ would read lol. Any idiot knows (or should) that it is dangerous and unpredictable even on a good day. Someone I was at school with was with the diving club in the harbour. Forgot to turn on the air tank prior to jumping in. Then when in difficulty, could not release the weight belt so could not then surface. Not a nice way to go and bloody stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 That would actually be a good warning sign on roads and paths leasing to the sea: "This is NOT a large swimming pool - It is the sea! Respect it." or similar. Nah, no warning signs everywhere, it just looks like wrapping the world up in cotton wool. Reserve warnings for the things that a reasonably sensible person can't expect and might encounter. I hate this "you need to be specially instructed and especially cautious just to exist outside your padded insulated-from-reality modern world" attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I keep thinking of the telegram from "swallows and amazons": "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown." Do you think there was really a time when half a dozen pre-teens would have been let out on a lake on their own for a couple of days? In the time when it might've happened I can't see many having the time to do it, I suppose they had wealthy families. On the basis that a story musn't be too divorced from reality in certain respects (obviosly they get away with it in plenty of others) before losing readers I suppose it could've been a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Admiral Pin says be wary of the sea, as I reckon it's big, and moves around a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 You assume they can read/ would read lol. Any idiot knows (or should) that it is dangerous and unpredictable even on a good day. Someone I was at school with was with the diving club in the harbour. Forgot to turn on the air tank prior to jumping in. Then when in difficulty, could not release the weight belt so could not then surface. Not a nice way to go and bloody stupid They also forgot to semi inflate their BCD, have the regulator in the mouth with a hand over it and probably to do up the dive belt for right hand quick release. Family probably blamed the dive buddy. This is Darwinian self selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 You assume they can read/ would read lol. Any idiot knows (or should) that it is dangerous and unpredictable even on a good day. Someone I was at school with was with the diving club in the harbour. Forgot to turn on the air tank prior to jumping in. Then when in difficulty, could not release the weight belt so could not then surface. Not a nice way to go and bloody stupid Did the person survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37208338 What is the tidal situation at 8am at camber? Gone out before the lifeguards came on duty? So as not to be observed? Something is out on the sandbars? something of value? and people are trying to retrieve it? Tides at Camber Sands http://magicseaweed.com/Camber-sands-Surf-Report/3940/Tide/ People get lost at sea for all sorts of reasons including suicide which is one of the most common causes of fatality at my local beach. I used to know someone who died that way. She had a life long history of depression and one morning simply walked out into the sea and did not come back until the tide washed her body ashore. She was a good swimmer, knew the beach well, the conditions were good and the area was as 'safe' as any bathing area you could find on this stretch of coast. The area also had regular beach patrols in the summer. It did not stop her dying because as the coroner concluded that is what she wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Admiral Pin says be wary of the sea, as I reckon it's big, and moves around a bit. So like Serena Williams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 So like Serena Williams ? Stop spoiling my dreams. I want Venus. Nice tall one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 Did the person survive? No, as cunning plan says Darwinian self selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 No, as cunning plan says Darwinian self selection. Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 That would actually be a good warning sign on roads and paths leasing to the sea: "This is NOT a large swimming pool - It is the sea! Respect it." or similar. A local we got to know in Barbados had a good saying from his granny: (pls imagine lovely West Indian lilt) - 'The sea have no back door.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Not waving but drowningNobody heard him, the dead man, But still he lay moaning:I was much further out than you thoughtAnd not waving but drowning. Poor chap, he always loved larkingAnd now he's deadIt must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,They said. Oh, no no no, it was too cold always(Still the dead one lay moaning)I was much too far out all my lifeAnd not waving but drowning. Stevie Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Drowning Stevie Smith? I'm not a huge fan but that's very harsh indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scunnered Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 The Fall seem to have mellowed a bit in their old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John51 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I keep thinking of the telegram from "swallows and amazons": "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown." Do you think there was really a time when half a dozen pre-teens would have been let out on a lake on their own for a couple of days? For those types of childrens stories, the author has to get rid of the parents so that the (parentless) adventures can begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Man dies swimming the English Channel http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-37209271 Swimming for 16hrs before passing out & die'ing, 10 miles off Calais. Chose not to wear a wetsuit for the challenge, must have been a tad nippy in trunks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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