BlueRat Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 He has got away with it hasn't he, he's had 10 years of MP troughing and no doubt building up contacts for further 'entrepreneurship' when it comes to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Shapps will survive this. No crime committed, Dave likes him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 No matter what, Little Dave was always going to support whatever he did. He could not afford a Party Chairman to go. Not this close to a GE, especially when them and the others are neck and neck. It goes to show how weak the opposition is - they should be making much more trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Dave lacks judgement when it comes to people. Agree...he lacks judgement when choosing the right people with integrity....pity really, only as strong as your weakest link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 C4 news on the case....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenpig Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 [ Agree...he lacks judgement when choosing the right people with integrity....pity really, only as strong as your weakest link. He appears to lack any positive qualities whatsover (unless making telly viewers cringe to the very core of their being can be considered a quality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleturbo Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Fool Edited March 16, 2015 by bubbleturbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fully Detached Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm amazed how many people around me are willing to just let this go, as if it were nothing more than a misunderstanding and perhaps a slightly liberal interpretation of the rules at worst. I don't know whether it's that they just don't understand the nature of his "business", or fear that if it isn't overlooked, those horrible leftie Labour types might get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Dave "he made a mistake" (about the dates) Everyone else can see Dave is being played for a fool except Dave. No wonder Putin feels empowered. Either Dave knows hes being played or hes plain stupid. Either way he looks like an idiot. Very similar to Andy Coulson debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The best thing Tory opponents could do is keep quiet and let Shapps get on with his job. Nothing turns off voters more than having a smarmy grinning mud-stained buffoon like Shapps at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleturbo Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) It will be good if the spiv-meister finally get's his comeuppance. Attacking others for "hating business" is an irony that's obviously lost on on the man who started a company that ripped off other people's web content to try and generate ad revenue. The fact that he made his way into high office of government says a lot about modern politicians' attitude to business. Unable to distinguish between genuine innovation and value-creating activities, and zero-sum speculation and spiv-like behaviour designed only to divert funds towards your own bank account at the expense of someone else's. Spot on, Not only the Government though, this attitude is now pretty rife within the general UK populous. Most people's idea of "Business" is "Homes Under The Hammer" and "Escape To The Country". Edited March 16, 2015 by bubbleturbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) No matter what, Little Dave was always going to support whatever he did. He could not afford a Party Chairman to go. Not this close to a GE, especially when them and the others are neck and neck. It goes to show how weak the opposition is - they should be making much more trouble. I suspect the opposition have no more clue about why what he did was a problem than Dave does. I'm amazed how many people around me are willing to just let this go, as if it were nothing more than a misunderstanding and perhaps a slightly liberal interpretation of the rules at worst. I don't know whether it's that they just don't understand the nature of his "business", or fear that if it isn't overlooked, those horrible leftie Labour types might get in. The MP expenses scandal was the turning point for many I think. Basically, they were all pretty much on the take - and yet only a couple got prosecuted/the boot. Parliament protects its own - and the fact that so-called opposites like Labour and the Conservatives are willing to consider going into Government together - tells you all you need to know about their differences. Plus I suspect few of the general public really understand what Rat Shats has actually done. Edited March 16, 2015 by StainlessSteelCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunobald Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You have to ask yourself what this man's motives are. Seems like he is motivated only by money and not the sort of person we should have running the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You have to ask yourself what this man's motives are. Seems like he is motivated only by money and not the sort of person we should have running the country. Mmmm hard to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You have to ask yourself what this man's motives are. Seems like he is motivated only by money and not the sort of person we should have running the country. He's a good salesman. Dave is a PR man, they are a similar breed. Good a getting you to buy into their stories and believe their messages, rubbish at offering any real vision or delivering on their promises. Sums up modern politics really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveinHope Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Odious little shit promoted way above his abilities. Unfortunately that sentence doesn't just apply to Mr Green but pretty much every politician in the country. Country's public services are full of them, I'm continually scratching my head trying to work out how it came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Shapps is this generation of Tories' Geoffrey Archer. The slimy little scumbag is going to make a big mistake sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Shapps is this generation of Tories' Geoffrey Archer. The slimy little scumbag is going to make a big mistake sooner or later. He might have already made it but the people who know are hanging onto the knowledge to use as political capital when the time is right, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombleached Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I seem to remember us discussing this on here a few years ago. I wrote to my MP asking for an official position on his suspect business interests; more a moral question than anything. I received nothing.Pip. Nadda. Nothing. Fascinating that he's trying to fool the unwashed by saying Michael Green is a 'pen name' as if he's an accomplished writer, and not a 419'er! Nothing will change, no-one is listening. Spoiling your ballot is the only logical thing to do in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveinHope Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Nothing will change, no-one is listening. Spoiling your ballot is the only logical thing to do in May. 'I'm fed up with the election already' has become quite an interesting conversation to start. I am surprised by the number of people of previously, hard and fast, left and right political persuasions whom have said they're going to vote Green, not out of any ideology necessarily, just pure desperation. From work colleagues to the barber yesterday. TBH I thought most would say they would vote UKIP, as that is the party that usually attracts protest votes in my area. But so far, nobody has mentioned UKIP, and when I have said 'why not UKIP, the answer has been - 'They're no different' Oh, and Shapps to bring it back on topic - he's a spiv masquerading as a businessman. I could easily see him masterminding e-mails from Nigeria saying there is £1 million waiting in a bank account if you can wire me £500k today. He, and the rest, are why I don't know who I will vote for. Edited March 17, 2015 by LiveinHope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombleached Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 'I'm fed up with the election already' has become quite an interesting conversation to start. I am surprised by the number of people of previously, hard and fast, left and right political persuasions whom have said they're going to vote Green, not out of any ideology necessarily, just pure desperation. From work colleagues to the barber yesterday. TBH I thought most would say they would vote UKIP, as that is the party that usually attracts protest votes in my area. But so far, nobody has mentioned UKIP, and when I have said 'why not UKIP, the answer has been - 'They're no different' Oh, and Shapps to bring it back on topic - he's a spiv masquerading as a businessman. I could easily see him masterminding e-mails from Nigeria saying there is £1 million waiting in a bank account if you can wire me £500k today. He, and the rest, are why I don't know who I will vote for. I'm in precisely the same boat. If UKIP/Greens/Indies were asking the right questions I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. But they're not. It's as simple as that. We're all in it together, until you realise we're not. There's an elite club and you and I are not invited, but we're expected to pick up the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrink Proof Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 NEWS FLASH After Grant Shapps announces that he will not be standing for re-election in the Welwyn constituency, Conservative Central Office announces that the new Tory candidate will be young entrepreneur Michael Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveinHope Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) I'm in precisely the same boat. If UKIP/Greens/Indies were asking the right questions I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. But they're not. It's as simple as that. We're all in it together, until you realise we're not. There's an elite club and you and I are not invited, but we're expected to pick up the bill. And it's not a a boat I enjoy floating in (and that's not because you're in it ). Not having anyone to vote for leaves me feeling powerless to change the conditions I detest and affect my life. Of course, emigration is an option and I'd be the first to encourage any youngster to 'get out' if they showed an inclination to do so. Edited March 17, 2015 by LiveinHope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombleached Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 And it's not a a boat I enjoy floating in (and that's not because you're in it ). Not having anyone to vote for leaves me feeling powerless to change the conditions I detest and affect my life. Of course, emigration is an option and I'd be the first to encourage any youngster to 'get out' if they showed an inclination to do so. Floating is quite apt as we're going nowhere I'm afraid. Do you recall the original thread on Shapps? Here it is in it's full glory: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/183099-grant-shapps-lead-double-life-as-charlatan/?hl=%20michael%20%20green I was amazed at the time that the MSM didn't run with it. It was right in the middle of plebgate so Green weaseled his way out of the spotlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveinHope Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Floating is quite apt as we're going nowhere I'm afraid. Do you recall the original thread on Shapps? Here it is in it's full glory: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/183099-grant-shapps-lead-double-life-as-charlatan/?hl=%20michael%20%20green I was amazed at the time that the MSM didn't run with it. It was right in the middle of plebgate so Green weaseled his way out of the spotlight. OMG 'an internet conference in Las Vegas' - the heartland for conferences where marketeers persuade gullible people to hand over cash for pearl's of 'common sense'; oh, sorry, I mean, their 'business acumen'. Edited March 17, 2015 by LiveinHope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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