Bruce Banner Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Police order shut down of right-wing NatCon conference - during Nigel Farage's speech - Mirror Online Suella Braverman and Nigel Farage were due to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 likely to back fire, its not a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 If you want to make something more popular, then ban it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Orb said: If you want to make something more popular, then ban it. Ban smoking, ban sleeping rough, ban the unwanted innocent, ban those speaking up for peace, ban those that get in way of banning things.....take back control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 minutes ago, winkie said: ban those speaking up for peace, If you are talking about the middle east, their would be eternal peace tomorrow if the palestinians accepted the existence of israel and worked with them. But i dont think that you mean people proposing that do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 minutes ago, debtlessmanc said: If you are talking about the middle east, their would be eternal peace tomorrow if the palestinians accepted the existence of israel and worked with them. But i dont think that you mean people proposing that do you? Not getting into that argument....peace means no retaliation for wrong doing, two wrongs do not make a right...applies to all.....collateral damage are innocent people, who wants that?. Lots of money to be made from war and conflict.....big business..... Most people are not stupid, just trying to survive or not wanting further escalation, just a few people have so many thousands of people in their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I guess "the far right" are just not inclusive enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Diversity, except for opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Equality, but not the kind of.... Oh, they actually say equity. Don't want to get those two mixed up, they wouldn't want to be hypocritical now would they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTINX9 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Apparently the request to shut down the event came from the local Mayor Emir Kir - who according to his wikipedia profile was expelled from the Belgian Socialist party for his links to the Turkish far right, evicted children and families squatting in an empty convent, apparently used intimidation and fraud to get re-elected last time and has denied the Armenian genocide during WWI (where over 1.2 million Armenians were murdered by the Turkish Ottoman empire) ever took place. Sounds a right charmer. You really couldn't make it up - he is probably more 'far right' himself than anyone attending the actual conference! https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emir_Kir#cite_note-2 Edited April 16 by MARTINX9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 minutes ago, Huggy said: I guess "the far right" are just not inclusive enough 4 minutes ago, Huggy said: Diversity, except for opinions Not enough of them to count, far left no different....elections are won from the centre....most people are moderate, liberal free thinkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Fury Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/16/rishi-sunak-latest-news-smoking-ban-simon-clarke-liz-truss/#1713266423931 Quote Emir Kir, the mayor of Saint Josse, said: “I issued an order from the Mayor to ban the National Conservatism Conference event to guarantee public safety. In Etterbeek, Brussels City and Saint-Josse, the far-right is not welcome.” The notice served by the police said the event posed a danger to pedestrians outside the venue, a conference source said. Then Emir Kir and his political puppet police are going to be very busy in June, when the European Parliament convenes in Brussels after the imminent European Elections. Oh, and Belgium's own national Government, after the General Election on the same day. Vlaams Belang and Nieuw-Vlaams Alliantie are on course to gain nearly 50% of the vote. https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/belgium/ Perhaps the Brussels Police might pay a bit more attention to policing the district of Molenbeek, an effective no-go area which was home to some of the Bataclan terrorist gang? Edited April 16 by Dyson Fury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 Not a good look for Sunak's government though when one of his MPs (and former Home Secretary) is branded far right, which of course she pretty much is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 47 minutes ago, MARTINX9 said: "local" Mayor Emir Kir - "Local" - There you go, the take over continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancTom Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, debtlessmanc said: If you are talking about the middle east, their would be eternal peace tomorrow if the palestinians accepted the existence of israel and worked with them. But i dont think that you mean people proposing that do you? there would not. Israelis are busy building settlements all over the West Bank and evicting Palestinians from the land they take. Not many notice because everyone is focussed on Gaza. Plenty of people on both sides who don't accept the rights of the other side to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTINX9 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 16 minutes ago, yodigo said: "Local" - There you go, the take over continues. I was more referencing the error in the title - as he isn't the Mayor of the city of Brussels just of one municipality in the Brussels city region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballyk Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 42 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Not a good look for Sunak's government though when one of his MPs (and former Home Secretary) is branded far right, which of course she pretty much is. Far right in rhetoric. In practice, she had a very weak grip on borders and happily waived in even more immigrants than her predecessor. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67506641 https://obr.uk/box/net-migration-and-its-impact-on-labour-supply/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 15 minutes ago, Ballyk said: Far right in rhetoric. In practice, she had a very weak grip on borders and happily waived in even more immigrants than her predecessor. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67506641 https://obr.uk/box/net-migration-and-its-impact-on-labour-supply/ Yes, an incompetent far right wannabe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 47 minutes ago, MancTom said: there would not. Israelis are busy building settlements all over the West Bank and evicting Palestinians from the land they take. Not many notice because everyone is focussed on Gaza. Plenty of people on both sides who don't accept the rights of the other side to exist. Sorry I wasn’t picking sides- the point I am making is that the side appealing for ceasefire is always the losing one in any conflict. It does not mean they are on the side of peace, just that they are Losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, winkie said: Ban smoking, ban sleeping rough, ban the unwanted innocent, ban those speaking up for peace, ban those that get in way of banning things.....take back control. It's the party of law and order innit... hateful government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, Bruce Banner said: Police order shut down of right-wing NatCon conference - during Nigel Farage's speech - Mirror Online Suella Braverman and Nigel Farage were due to speak. This absolutely vindicates our decision to leave the EUSSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 minutes ago, fellow said: This absolutely vindicates our decision to leave the EUSSR. Care to explain why? A mayor or local authority in the UK could do the same here . IIRC a couple of years ago Boris Jonson banned Conservative MPs from attending the same conference on the grounds that it was an extreme group aiming to ferment division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, fellow said: This absolutely vindicates our decision to leave the EUSSR. Nothing to do with the EU, just a city mayor flexing his muscles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said: Care to explain why? Ask Alexei Navalny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelbe Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 For decades the European response to those who had a different view on immigration was to scream racist and circle the political wagons. During that time both populist and far right parties have grown in popularity. So maybe they should try having an actual debate and make arguments justifying the pro-open borders consensus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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