copydude Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, rollover said: Yes, and than Tories can blame someone else. It's difficult though. Politically, a 2nd ref - having not implemented the first - is a very hard sell and the Tories would get the backlash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ****-eyed octopus said: Precisely. I don't understand why so many remainers act like pompous, arrogant, intolerant to$$ers. Unless perhaps that is what they actually are? Brexiteers are just as bad, arguably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localhero1983 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, rollover said: Second referendum or GE. We shall see, GE being the far better option I think, just wording the next referendum would take a few years in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allfiredup Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Brexiteers are just as bad, arguably worse. I strongly disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, allfiredup said: I strongly disagree Oh do you now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, localhero1983 said: Brexit is only undeliverable when you have remain PM's such as May treating Brexit like a direct asteroid hit on the UK where the UK now needs to be saved as best they can from the damage. Most of the UK though never saw Brexit as a cruel act from God, they saw it as their saviour, and as of yet nobody has addressed that issue. There is some truth to what you’re saying but don’t you think that the option you are talking about is supported by only about 15% and not by most of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock-eyed octopus Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Brexiteers are just as bad, arguably worse. Could you point me to some on here? I can think of one or two who might have reacted to being called thick racist gammons (or whatever) but I've not come across one who routinely insults remainers from the outset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allfiredup Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Bruce Banner said: Oh do you now? From what i've read on this thread, very much so yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I say again, there is obviously doubt. If in doubt ASK. There are now three options and it needs sorting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localhero1983 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, rollover said: There is some truth to what you’re saying but don’t you think that the option you are talking about is supported by only about 15% and not by most of the UK. In all honesty Rollover I have absolutely zero idea of the varying reasons and their percentages or intelligence levels of the Brexiteers, and I have little time for most of the people that claim they do. All I know is that I respect every last one of their reasons whatever they are for voting Leave, even though broadly they were wrong ? Edited December 12, 2018 by localhero1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Brexiteers are just as bad, arguably worse. Born out of frustration...tiz all. Still believe the wto option is suicide..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, Itssimple said: Interesting as ever. https://order-order.com Another sensible Brexit proposal which will be roundly ignored by all sides. To add to a large collection of ignored documents. They need the Irish border to be maintained as an insoluble problem. They don't want a solution to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock-eyed octopus Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, kzb said: Another sensible Brexit proposal which will be roundly ignored by all sides. To add to a large collection of ignored documents. They need the Irish border to be maintained as an insoluble problem. They don't want a solution to it. Absolutely correct. Rather like we couldn't control cheap labour imports because of the EU. They (the rich who profit by it) want us in the EU for said cheap labour & nice cosy relationship they have with other rich people in their EU club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock-eyed octopus Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Mr. Banner, still waiting for an example of an unprovoked insulting Brexiteer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, kzb said: Another sensible Brexit proposal which will be roundly ignored by all sides. To add to a large collection of ignored documents. They need the Irish border to be maintained as an insoluble problem. They don't want a solution to it. “Brexit brain” Shanker Singham. Best laugh I’ve had all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ****-eyed octopus said: Mr. Banner, still waiting for an example of an unprovoked insulting Brexiteer . I'm not going to search through 2775 pages, you'll have to do it yourself if you're really interested. Suffice to say, both sides are equally intransigent and insults have been going back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock-eyed octopus Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Dave Beans said: “Brexit brain” Shanker Singham. Best laugh I’ve had all day. Sigh. I thought better of you Dave, How about a comment refuting the proposal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, copydude said: It's difficult though. Politically, a 2nd ref - having not implemented the first - is a very hard sell and the Tories would get the backlash. Exactly, we are heading for just leaving on "No Deal" IMO, that is becoming more a narrative on SKY etc. from guests, and the presenters are being talked down a lot more when they try to say "But, but shouldn`t we just vote again til we get the right answer". Great popcorn moments ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyDave Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, rollover said: As we can see now, because Brexit is undeliverable, it was the first one. Why not call it a Resistance is fEUtile vote.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock-eyed octopus Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: I'm not going to search through 2775 pages, you'll have to do it yourself if you're really interested. Suffice to say, both sides are equally intransigent and insults have been going back and forth. Sorry that won't do. You've made an assertion & expect us to believe it solely because you've said so. On the other hand I can cite IMHAL, jonb2, HairyOb1 right away. Edited December 12, 2018 by cock-eyed octopus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, dances with sheeple said: Exactly, we are heading for just leaving on "No Deal" IMO, that is becoming more a narrative on SKY etc. from guests, and the presenters are being talked down a lot more when they try to say "But, but shouldn`t we just vote again til we get the right answer". Great popcorn moments ahead. I believe we are being herded down the 2nd referendum track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, ****-eyed octopus said: Sorry that won' do. You've made an assertion & expect us to believe it solely because you've said so. On the other hand I can cite IMHAL, jonb2, HairyOb1 right away. 90% of unprovoked ad homs are from Remainers. Also see Peter Hun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allfiredup Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, kzb said: I believe we are being herded down the 2nd referendum track. I'm thinking the same, and i can see them not even including 'no deal' Its the only way they can ensure no brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ****-eyed octopus said: Sorry that won't do. You've made an assertion & expect us to believe it solely because you've said so. On the other hand I can cite IMHAL, jonb2, HairyOb1 right away. It will have to do, I really can't be bothered. I don't care if you believe it or not, but as far as I'm concerned both sides are as bad as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allfiredup Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Bruce Banner said: It will have to do, I really can't be bothered. I don't care if you believe it or not, but as far as I'm concerned both sides are as bad as each other. I don't care if you care or not, but it diminishes the value of your opinions imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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