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cock-eyed octopus

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  1. I want us to enact the result of the first one, as we were told would happen. Then we can have another one if you like.
  2. 1) The EU is based on a false premise. In practice it's mostly for the benefit of Germany & France & sod the rest And if you haven't noticed African & other corrupt states simply lose/ignore votes & threaten physical violence. You're comparing the referendum to that? Out of your mind. 2) Recession. Economic Armageddon. Mass unemployment. Just by VOTING leave.And you are not God, you do not KNOW what will happen economically or socially whatever you might THINK. 3) If you think Soros is any kind of saint then you are mad. He was quite happy to make money out of ba
  3. "Agreed. The referendum was invalid. It was worse than those held by despots in a poor African country. There was no rule of law applied for the need of truth. No consequences for the lies, just like the bankers got away with it in 2008. A perfect and historic example of faux democracy in the face of a mirage made from false claims." ____________________________________________________________________________ If you believe that then you are so far removed from reality as to be clinically insane. And I repeat, there were at least as many lies perpetrated by the remain campa
  4. I'm beginning to think you're a bit touched. Your sense of proportion is so skewed as to be borderline insane.
  5. Absolutely. But the issue of race has divided America throughout its history (I believe they fought a war over it). But they don't, & cannot, have the idea of an American 'race' in the same way as the French (who just quietly stuff black immigrants in the banlieues). These are necessarily generalisations & do not apply to individuals. But I believe they reflect a national outlook, a belief in a country's place in the world. France & the USA both believe themselves to be eminently superior, but I believe for completely different reasons.
  6. I think with the French it's racial. The USA cannot be that; I think it's based on their institutions & belief in democracy.
  7. I know someone who's going through a divorce. It's messy & painful & they'll be financially much, much worse off - & their reasons for it look nebulous to me. But they're doing it.
  8. Perhaps that's because what they get told about wider society conflicts with their direct experience of members of that society. This can work both ways. I knew a man who was a self-confessed egomaniac & an unreconstructed racist & homophobe. However, when he became chronically ill he came into contact with many foreign medical professionals who he acknowledged to be highly intelligent (he was willfully ignorant but not stupid). It was amusing to see the internal conflict thus engendered. He also greatly admired Stephen Fry. "I can't understand why he's never married" he onc
  9. I think the plebs are 99% influenced by personal experience. That goes for everyone else as well.
  10. That's why it's not the best form of government. Democracy is bad, but all the alternatives are worse.
  11. They revolted against being ruled (& taxed) by a remote power in whose administration they couldn't have any meaningful say (sound familiar?). Their institutions were based on the same democratic principles as ours, only more thoroughgoing without the class element.
  12. I agree that there is nothing like direct personal experience of a place. However there is so much documentary evidence about America (actually mostly critical) I think it's possible to get a fair idea of the USA. Americans I've met suggest my conclusions are correct.
  13. Of course there is self criticism. It's a question of scale & tone. The assumption in France is that France is innately superior to every other nation on earth.
  14. Steinbeck yes, the others no. Bellow, Updike, Heller, Roth, Proulx, Flannery O'Connor, others I can't recall the name of. I tried Moby Dick bur couldn't get into it. Likewise The Call Of The Wild.
  15. Do you think the French are self-critical about their own culture in the same way that we & the Americans are? Ireally don't think so. America is a vast country, & reflects a huge diversity of cultures within it, from redneck to Cajun to hillbilly to country & western to New Yorker to Californian to Seattle ... the flag, a belief in the USA providing the best opportunities in the world unites them BUT there is a lot of self criticism going on amongst many of those subcultures. Just read some American literature if you don't believe me. That just isn't the case in France.
  16. I really don't understand this. My experience of Europe is very limited (although I've worked with a lot of different nationalities) but the French have a completely different outlook - & an uncritical view of their own country seems to be a constant. This is an accusation you could hardly level at he UK or USA (which is both a strength & a weakness we have). One of the things that struck me about French society was the respect for intellect & age as opposed to our worship of youth & energy. As much as I find this respect admirable it leads to cultural ossification; how ma
  17. Not me. Despite my recent Franco-German ancestry I've never felt European. I have more affinity with the USA. After all, most of their institutions & pragmatic philosophical outlook derive from English ones. Their democracy more accurately reflects the population, warts & all. Which is what people are - a mixture of the good, the bad & the ugly. Trying to force them into some sort of ideological Utopia, no matter how well intentioned, will not work.
  18. I wanted closer ties with the Commonwealth. I thought the CM was a bunch of countries trying to flog each other the same stuff (crudely speaking). I thought this could be a win-win situation. To start with we would have a market for finished goods & poorer countries for their raw materials, but eventually the poorer countries would have gained their own technology & thus we would have had access to a better educated & more sophisticated market as a result - we need to stay one step ahead generally, it's the only way we can survive. The richer countries are I think a better fit
  19. It's the scale that's he problem. It's very difficult, if not impossible, for large organisations (say 1,000 employees up) not to become progressively less efficient. The feedback mechanisms disappear. They get lost in the competing structures that form within the group - individual ambitions get in the way of the overall goals & strategy of the company. You have to arrive at some sort of hierarchy which keeps dissatisfaction to a minimum,. It ain't easy. And given the size of the NHS it would be a near miracle to get a reasonable level of efficiency (i.e. beat outcome /patient f
  20. He may well have some such ideology. I'm sure people voted leave for all sorts of reasons, as did those who voted remain.
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