Qetesuesi Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 It's going to descend into chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 It's going to descend into chaos. Is it too late to form a Greek party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Is it too late to form a Greek party? Will there be dancing? Always worth watching that movie, especially the way the main characters react to the almighty **** up at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Never liked them since my car was bumped into by a character called Angelos and his mate Stavros who told the coppers they were speeding because they were late for work. Just goes to show you should never trust Greeks sharing lifts... XYY Edited May 11, 2012 by The XYY Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singlemalt Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 It's going to descend into chaos. Guaranteed. chaoskampf (German for "struggle against chaos") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs1959 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Guaranteed. chaoskampf (German for "struggle against chaos") Blitzkrieg - the German solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Bart' Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Blitzkrieg - the German solution British theorists J.F.C. Fuller and Captain B. H. Liddell Hart have often been associated with the development of blitzkrieg, though this is a matter of controversy. During World War I, Fuller had been a staff officer attached to the newly developed tank force. He later developed plans for massive, independent tank operations and was subsequently studied by the German military. Concentration, surprise, and speed were key elements in the blitzkrieg warfare, planned by [General] Allenby during the Battle of Sharon (1918) part of the Battle of Megiddo. The Ottoman front line was breached quickly by massed infantry of the XXI Corps in overwhelming strength, supported by the greatest possible weight of artillery at the point in the line where the gap was made, while other sections of the front line were lightly held. Classic blitzkrieg tactics. Academics since the 1970s have questioned the existence of blitzkrieg as a coherent military doctrine or strategy. Many academic historians hold the idea that the German armed forces adopted "blitzkrieg" as an offensive doctrine to be a myth. Others continue to use the word to describe the style of breakthrough warfare practised by the Axis powers of this period, even if it were not a formal doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 It's going to descend into chaos. Isn't that a Greek word? Very appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs1959 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Classic blitzkrieg tactics. And in many ways Haig and his generals attempted to employ the same tactics as Allenby on the Western Front. The initial plans for the battle of the Somme, for example, saw a huge artillery bombardment being followed by a huge wave of troops on a narrow front. Haig was forced to double the width of his front by the withdrawal of French troops from the assault. The artillery bombardment was thus, much reduced in its effectiveness. In a similar way the assault at Messines was preceded by a huge mine explosion, unfortunately the troops did not follow through quickly enough to make the most of teh opportunity. The work of Fuller and Liddell Hart, too long ignored outside academic circles, should not be seen in isolation from these developments. BTW - my comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek and intended to reflect the fact that the Germans will be mightily pissed-off, and also the depictions of Merkel common in Greek cartoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qetesuesi Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Bump Ὁ βίος βραχύς, ἡ δὲ τέχνη μακρή, ὁ δὲ καιρὸς ὀξύς, ἡ δὲ πεῖρα σφαλερή, ἡ δὲ κρίσις χαλεπή. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I must say they are expert in wasting time when it comes to football matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMX9 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Don't get too excited - I am certain New Democracy (pro EU, pro bailout, pro bankers, pro status quo) will win and form a coalition with the PASOK social democratic party. The anti bailout Syriza party wont be able to form a government - even if it comes first. The scary thing is that the Greeks are likely to elect the party that was in power from 2003-2009 - the one that created the mess and conspired with a certain famous US investment bank to do so i.e. New Democracy. If you didn't laugh you would cry. So it won't be resolved - this will drag on and on and on............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Me Back To London! Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Don't get too excited - I am certain New Democracy (pro EU, pro bailout, pro bankers, pro status quo) will win and form a coalition with the PASOK social democratic party. The anti bailout Syriza party wont be able to form a government - even if it comes first. The scary thing is that the Greeks are likely to elect the party that was in power from 2003-2009 - the one that created the mess and conspired with a certain famous US investment bank to do so i.e. New Democracy. If you didn't laugh you would cry. So it won't be resolved - this will drag on and on and on............ +1 I doubt that today's election will clarify things. Market investment will continue to stay away from Greece as there no possible way to protect against the introduction of a devalued drachma. Until Greece leaves the euro then things will only get worse with no prospect of a recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Never liked them since my car was bumped into by a character called Angelos and his mate Stavros who told the coppers they were speeding because they were late for work. Just goes to show you should never trust Greeks sharing lifts... XYY I got it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbatst2000 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Never liked them since my car was bumped into by a character called Angelos and his mate Stavros who told the coppers they were speeding because they were late for work. Just goes to show you should never trust Greeks sharing lifts... XYY Stop horsing about and take this seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpleasant Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 My personal favourite, the reference to (the very short) Michael Dukakis: "Beware Greeks wearing lifts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Don't get too excited - I am certain New Democracy (pro EU, pro bailout, pro bankers, pro status quo) will win and form a coalition with the PASOK social democratic party. The anti bailout Syriza party wont be able to form a government - even if it comes first. The scary thing is that the Greeks are likely to elect the party that was in power from 2003-2009 - the one that created the mess and conspired with a certain famous US investment bank to do so i.e. New Democracy. If you didn't laugh you would cry. So it won't be resolved - this will drag on and on and on............ there is nothing to be resolved except this:...they owe a ton of money, and they dont have a means to pay. either they default and start again, or the people who lent it forgive them....the result for the creditors is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Beware Greeks veering left. Beware Greeks tearing rifts. Beware Greeks rearing tiffs. Some say its a Marathon not a sprint but I say Greek Eurozone Crisis = Courier Seeking Zeros Risk Generic Ooze Ruse Insecure Ego? Risk Zero! Edited June 17, 2012 by nmarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Beware Greeks veering left. Beware Greeks tearing rifts. Beware Greeks rearing tiffs. Some say its a Marathon not a sprint but I say Greek Eurozone Crisis = Courier Seeking Zeros Risk Generic Ooze Ruse Insecure Ego? Risk Zero! You're Hired! And after 12 long weeks, Erranta has finally found his apprentice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Courier Seeking Zeros Risk Generic Ooze Ruse Insecure Ego? Risk Zero! You're Hired! And after 12 long weeks, Erranta has finally found his apprentice. Anagrams of Greek Eurozone Crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) It seems a majority government is unlikely since the Pasok spokeswoman Katerina Diamantopoulou has said that her party will not enter into coalition with New Democracy unless Syriza is included, and that's not likely since Syriza is anti-bailout and ND is pro-bailout, like the supposedly socialist Pasok, now reduced to around 13% Edited June 17, 2012 by 1929crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMX9 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 It seems a majority government is unlikely since the Pasok spokeswoman Katerina Diamantopoulou has said that her party will not enter into coalition with New Democracy unless Syriza is included, and that's not likely since Syriza is anti-bailout and ND is pro-bailout, like the supposedly socialist Pasok, now reduced to around 13% Pasok have changed their minds - and will now go into coalition. I expect a few brown envelopes changed hands in the usual Greek way. There was never going to be any other result - the powers that be would never have allowed a Syriza/anti bailout victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Never go prospecting for gold with one. Beware of Greeks' daring sifts - they'll lead you into danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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