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Nuggets Mahoney

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  1. No disagreement with your post but, after the fall of the yeoman-backed Republic, the Roman Empire chugged along with paid soldiers/ mercenaries and plutocrats for another 400+ years and reached it's peak during that time. Though, no doubt, it's final evaporation was at least partly due to people no longer wanting to fight or be taxed for its continuation. It took a while though. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single Emperor overthrown by a civilian mob. What arguably did for that system in the end was not revolt but, as I think you're getting at, people declining to participate.
  2. Maybe OT but it wasn't the mobs the (successful) Roman Emperors were concerned with keeping sweet. Their priorities were the army and the landowners, in that order.
  3. Here's one candidate...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Pelerin_Society
  4. Personally speaking, I've got issues with the tax credit system. However, I am neither envious nor jealous of the net beneficiaries and don't blame them for acting rationally when being offered incentives to behave in a certain way. I do have negative feelings towards the creatures who created those incentives and how those incentives are funded. But those feelings aren't of envy or jealousy either.
  5. It'd depend on whether there's enough to make a pie http://www.cooks.com/recipe/qj6vx39k/field-mice-pie-old-time.html
  6. I've never met anyone with an allotment who's kidding themselves that it works out cheaper than buying veg from a supermarket.As already mentioned though, quality and variety of produce is potentially better, for some veg markedly so, and some veg which are expensive or hard to find in supermarkets are a cinch to grow in season. Plus if you're a drinker and develop a taste for DIY 'country' wines you can cruise into the black, easy. On top of that, without going overboard with delusions of 'Good Life' self-sufficiency, being a little more closely involved with something as fundamental as your own food production is good for the soul IMHO.
  7. I downloaded a copy of v.3 direct from the MoD when it was current and it's the same. So I'm confident it's genuine. Unfortunately, I can't think of any way I can transfer that confidence over to you edit: The Council on Foreign Relations links to v.3 on the MoD site (and they wouldn't lie, would they) but the link's dead
  8. almost forgot, the UK government's chief science adviser John Beddington predicted food riots instability by 2030... Professor Sir John Beddington's Speech at SDUK 09 He makes connections with Catastrophic? Person Made? Global Climate/ Warming/ Cooling Change and I believe he's a strong proponent of GMO (though not in the specific speech above), make of that what you will.
  9. If it's the same report I mentioned recently on the Russell Brand thread it's called 'The DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme'. Only the current edition is officially available but conspiranauts have preserved the 2007-36 3rd Edition on-line e.g. here. That's the one that talks about the 'middle class proletariat'. It doesn't specifically refer to rioting in the wake of food sthocks but uses euphemisms such as instability and disorder.
  10. Sounds like the basis of a compelling argument for charitable status.
  11. Coincidentally, I've had a mass of price-reduction alerts this last couple of days from the Amazon price-watching service I use. Some tools and related consumables I keep an eye on (decent stuff - Wera, Bahco, Stanley, not just knock offs) are at their best prices for two or three years. I'm quite glad I'm not competing against Amazon for a living.
  12. It's just possible that the act of migrating acts as a filter and that the demographics of migrants do not mirror those of the country they are migrating from. You might find that the 'best' and the 'worst' are disproportionately represented. My understanding is that it is politically correct to say that the 'brightest and best' are drawn to the opportunities in Western Europe. Not so politically correct to speculate that the 'dimmest and worst' might also be on the same coach.
  13. One could rephrase the original question as Is it morally acceptable to allow the kind of people into this country who'd murder someone over peanuts? or maybe Is it morally acceptable to stoke-up an economic system that has people murdering each other over peanuts?
  14. I remember a colleague saying to me years ago, after our team received an undeserved bonus, 'If this were a medal I'd give it back'. We weren't bankers though.
  15. And if someone isn't persuaded by that somewhat idealized narrative, there's always the proverbial stick-wielding men to fall back on.
  16. Right back to Marx and Engels, communism was about playing for all the marbles...
  17. On the subject of the recent riots, which seem to have dropped out of public and media consciousness relatively quickly... I don't recall back in the 80s the same sense that the disturbances had the potential to spread across the city. People were boarding stuff up all over the place this time round. It was also easier to put your finger on why things kicked-off in the early 80s. This time round not so straightforward.
  18. I've listened to what a fair few on-line Libertarians have to say and, as far as I can tell, all the popular ones are right-leaning libertarians. As you point out, a corporation is a state construct. So these libertarians refer to 'entrepreneurs' instead. They seem a lot less interested and enthused by the prospect of co-operatives. So, yes, there are more possible choices but they don't get so much airplay. One big issue I have with deifying entrepreneurs or corporations is that an entity driven completely by raw, unvarnished self-interest is going to be just as OK in pulling a fast one on its customers as giving them a genuinely good deal, provided it thinks it can get away with it.
  19. Yes, the riots were more violent and, yes, there were tensions, which coincided with a period of economic austerity. which 'New' London hasn't had to deal with yet.
  20. Were you around for the riots a couple of years back? Just a little taster of what lurks beneath afaic. As I said, it's not such a big deal when times are good. How London will fare in the face of a downturn remains to be seen.
  21. Libertarian analyses often raise valid issues imho, same as Marxist structural analyses. The problem, as with Marxism, is that being able to identify a problem doesn't mean that your proposed solutions to that problem are going to work out any better. Personally, I doubt that replacing states, with their tendency to be corrupted and 'captured', with corporations, which are inherently psychopathic, would lead to much of an improvement in most folks' lot.
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