msi Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 BBC Chairman resigns Sharp says when he introduced businessman Sam Blyth to Cabinet Secretary Simon Case in December 2020 - referring to the loan discussion concerning former Prime Minister Boris Johnson - he did so “in good faith” and with “the best of intentions”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, msi said: BBC Chairman resigns Sharp says when he introduced businessman Sam Blyth to Cabinet Secretary Simon Case in December 2020 - referring to the loan discussion concerning former Prime Minister Boris Johnson - he did so “in good faith” and with “the best of intentions”. Emptying the swamp one Tory at a time. 👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Boris Johnson's taxpayer-funded legal bill rises to £245,000 The contract to hire Mr Johnson's legal team - led by top barrister Lord Pannick KC - was signed last August, shortly before he was forced to resign as prime minister. It was this week extended for a second time, rising in value from £222,000 to £245,000. Opposition parties say Mr Johnson should pay the legal fees himself given he has earned millions since standing down as prime minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Javad Marandi: Tory donor's link to massive money laundering probe Mr Marandi, 55, was born in Iran and grew up in London, where he still lives. His ties to the Conservative Party emerged through reports of his generous donations. Between 2014 and 2020, he gave £756,300, according to Electoral Commission records. In February 2022, the Sunday Times reported he was a member of a group of major donors who had access to senior party members, including to then prime minister, Boris Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTINX9 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Seems to be an interesting story in the FT as well about the Teesside Mayor and some issues with the redevelopment of the site of the old Redcar steel plant which last year was turned into a freeport. Its a bit too complex to summarise - its late and I lost it at the reference to 3 Thai banks. https://www.ft.com/content/c5c6a3f7-33ea-4973-9b40-d7088470cbb2 Edited May 15, 2023 by MARTINX9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 And another one . Suella Braverman ‘asked staff to help her dodge speeding fine’ | The Independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Is anyone here pro labour? It's one thing to agree the Tories are all corrupt and couldn't run a sweet shop. I have no faith in any of the alternatives either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: Is anyone here pro labour? It's one thing to agree the Tories are all corrupt and couldn't run a sweet shop. I have no faith in any of the alternatives either. That will doubtless be at the heart of the "Tory" election campaign. "We might be rubbish but the others are even worse". First things first... Kick this festering rump of the failed BJ government out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: I have no faith in any of the alternatives either. When the current Government is full of corrupt, self serving, trousering liars, the credibility of the Labour Party is not the key issue. It is the masked burglar, with the "Swag" bag, and striped jumper, jemmying the front door. ABC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: That will doubtless be at the heart of the "Tory" election campaign. "We might be rubbish but the others are even worse". First things first... Kick this festering rump of the failed BJ government out. 3 minutes ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: When the current Government is full of corrupt, self serving, trousering liars, the credibility of the Labour Party is not the key issue. It is the masked burglar, with the "Swag" bag, and striped jumper, jemmying the front door. ABC. Neither of you can admit to being pro labour then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: Neither of you can admit to being pro labour then? ......because most ex Tories have never voted Labour before......like many ex Labour voted Tory for the first time, giving them the benefit of the doubt......how disappointed must they feel now, same as the huge disappointment long supporting moderate Tory supporters must feel.....agree they have to go, too up themselves, working for themselves and wealthy donners, think they can get away with anything because of who they are....will say anything if think will get a vote from those that have learnt their lesson the hard way.....trust and truth means more than they think, and people do remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: Neither of you can admit to being pro labour then? I was a lifelong Conservative voter until Cameron reneged on his election manifesto. Conservative-Party-Manifesto-2010.pdf (general-election-2010.co.uk) Things have continued to go downhill since then. One thing is clear. We can’t go on with the old model of an economy built on debt. Irresponsible public spending, an overblown banking sector, and unsustainable consumer borrowing on the back of a housing bubble were the features of an age of irresponsibility that left Britain badly exposed to the economic crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: Neither of you can admit to being pro labour then? I am pro Labour, more Angela Rayner, than "Tony" S, but anything is better than the current lying shower of sh1t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Bruce Banner said: I was a lifelong Conservative voter until Cameron reneged on his election manifesto. Conservative-Party-Manifesto-2010.pdf (general-election-2010.co.uk) Things have continued to go downhill since then. So all it takes is a bit of conservative government, and then you're back in the fold. 3 hours ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: I am pro Labour, more Angela Rayner, than "Tony" S, but anything is better than the current lying shower of sh1t. We can believe any magic money tree promises we like, but it won't be coming our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: So all it takes is a bit of conservative government, and then you're back in the fold. No. I won't consider voting Conservative again until every last member of BJs handpicked brexiteer government are gone. These are not Conservatives, they are thugs in sheeps' clothing, and until they're all gone I shall vote tactically against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: No. I won't consider voting Conservative again until every last member of BJs handpicked brexiteer government are gone. These are not Conservatives, they are thugs in sheeps' clothing, and until they're all gone I shall vote tactically against them. I'm looking for signs of belief in any political party, and finding only lukewarm support for Labour but less for its leader. Is that where we are politically, more or less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: I'm looking for signs of belief in any political party, and finding only lukewarm support for Labour but less for its leader. Is that where we are politically, more or less? How do you judge a good equitable leader, there for the country not for themselves or their party or party infighting?.......many thought BJ was a good leader, how well did that go? Nobody knows how KS will be as a leader.....gift of the gab and a scruffy hair cut is not a reliable sign. Give him a chance, unless you think he will make you personally poorer, not have your interests in mind?......this lot has made most of us poorer, made inequality and division worse, not given workers a good reason to work over and above paying rent and bills....because they don't care.....they don't care why should we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 How many know those that don't actually input anything positive into society, working hard, making a difference......instead sitting at home with their spreadsheet updating daily their net worth/wealth from income and growth from the assets they hold ......paying fewer taxes than those that work 40 hours a week, helping them reach their goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmax2020 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 7 hours ago, 24gray24 said: Is anyone here pro labour? It's one thing to agree the Tories are all corrupt and couldn't run a sweet shop. I have no faith in any of the alternatives either. So, what? You’ll just vote Tory again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pmax2020 said: So, what? You’ll just vote Tory again? Almost no-one thinks they vote for the same party no matter what. That is what other people do. When their party is a constant disappointment, they then have to justify it by declaring them all as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, 24gray24 said: We can believe any magic money tree promises we like, but it won't be coming our way. What exactly? Like Slimey Hunt suggesting Income Tax will come down, like that joke Truss. Get a life. It is a club the Tory Party has earned life membership, with flying colours. Admit it, they are a joke Party, included by birthright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: What exactly? Like Slimey Hunt suggesting Income Tax will come down, like that joke Truss. Get a life. It is a club the Tory Party has earned life membership, with flying colours. Admit it, they are a joke Party, included by birthright. Good to know venom is all that's left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bob8 said: Almost no-one thinks they vote for the same party no matter what. That is what other people do. When their party is a constant disappointment, they then have to justify it by declaring them all as bad. Sounds like a socialist justifying why he always votes socialist, despite a lifetime of disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Pmax2020 said: So, what? You’ll just vote Tory again? I don't like any of them. So I'll do what others do: look down the list on the day and decide who annoys me the least. Hands in the till party? Spray it up the wall party? Stab students in the back party? Bankrupt the country party(ies)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, 24gray24 said: Sounds like a socialist justifying why he always votes socialist, despite a lifetime of disappointment. They are both the same. The stereotype of someone voting Labour because their parents did is more ingrained, but it applies equally both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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