OnionTerror Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, thecrashingisles said: Perhaps, like Ireland, we'd now be in the Euro with 90% support for EU membership... I don't think the British populace would ever accept the Euro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick73 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: I don't think the British populace would ever accept the Euro... Well now they never have too... who wants to be controlled by a parilment so far away and without tacit knowledge of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehowler Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, HairyOb1 said: 3 hours ago, thehowler said: You don't mention the euro in your post, jonb2, are you in favour of the UK joining? Yes Are you speaking for jonb2 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSumGame Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, maverick73 said: Well now they never have too... who wants to be controlled by a parilment so far away and without tacit knowledge of the country. Correct about Westminster. That's why the independents in Scotland are so resilient. This Brexit sh1te was not voted for by the Jocks. Edited June 9, 2018 by ZeroSumGame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Edited June 8, 2018 by Dave Beans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyOb1 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 hours ago, maverick73 said: Well now they never have too... who wants to be controlled by a parilment so far away and without tacit knowledge of the country. I'd hold onto that thought 8 hours ago, thehowler said: Are you speaking for jonb2 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, jonb2 said: They blame the EU for all the ills in people's life and tell them it will all get better after we leave. The source of all Britain's woes start and end with Westminster. Further, the fuel for the fire is the demographic bubble that exists here in the UK. Folk will start figuring that out by the middle of the next decade. Ultimately, Brexit will amount to a damp squib no matter how it proceeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnick Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, cashinmattress said: The source of all Britain's woes start and end with Westminster..... and their banker friends Further, the fuel for the fire is for the demographic bubble that exists here in the UK are the bankers and their political lackies . Folk will start figuring that out by the middle of the next decade....yes, but probably not in our lifetimes Ultimately, Brexit will amount to a damp squib no matter how it proceeds. Imagine a world today, if the price of a house now was the same price as it was, say, 40 years ago...... what caused it.... EEC ....EU ....Brexit?? what? answer ..... the system of banking that (wrongly) benefitted boomers (me) ...... brexit's a side show by comparison. Edited June 9, 2018 by cnick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyOb1 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Dave Beans said: Come to think about it, what would have been the point about a "people's vote"? The press are by and large are utterly contemptible...Its not only just the politicians... Might just be the paper being stupid, but Denmark and Sweden aren't in the Euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Can you find what's odd in these Leaders of the G7 photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick73 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 hours ago, ZeroSumGame said: Correct about Westminster. That's why the independents in Scotland are so resilient. This Brexit sh1te was not voted for by the Jocks. They will be going back for a second referendum... I have no doubt of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, cnick said: Imagine a world today, if the price of a house now was the same price as it was, say, 40 years ago...... what caused it.... EEC ....EU ....Brexit?? what? Lax lending approved by our governments. The end of no recourse mortgages. The repeal of Glass Steagall. Bankers allowed to run riot. QE. More QE. ZIRP. Resulting in every market being distorted - including house prices. Pointing your finger at the EU????? Wrong. Ultimately the promise of more tax revenue for our politicians is enough to clinch the deal and let the bankers off the leash. Result, short term euphoria, long term misery. Edited June 9, 2018 by IMHAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyOb1 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, rollover said: Can you find what's odd in these Leaders of the G7 photo? There's 9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehowler Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 There appear to be two interlopers. And where's the sloth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitchfork Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, maverick73 said: Exactly why I’d come out of voting retirement and vote. He is exactly what the country needs. A spark that ignites the flames of ruin ? The left wing masochist/sadists actively want the UK to be ruined, they seem to revel in it anf rejoice for some strange reason. However, to some extent recessions can have some benefits in terms of weeding out inefficient businesses and zombie companies that only survive due to low interest rates. Unfortuntely though, the brunt of the pain is felt by the less wealthy sections of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick73 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Pitchfork said: The left wing masochist/sadists actively want the UK to be ruined, they seem to revel in it anf rejoice for some strange reason. However, to some extent recessions can have some benefits in terms of weeding out inefficient businesses and zombie companies that only survive due to low interest rates. Unfortuntely though, the brunt of the pain is felt by the less wealthy sections of society. Normal economic cycles is 4 years up, 1 year to flush out the crap... QE has created an illusion of were all great and skipped three toilet flushes. Now as they gloss over normalisation and switch short term credit lending (LIBOR) back from central banks to the new and improved previous system (pre-2008)... everyone will feel the hangover ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehowler Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Another Brexit calamity, the Gruniad reports on au pair crisis... Many families are facing a childcare crisis following a 75% slump in the number of young Europeans willing to work as au pairs, https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/jun/09/au-pair-shortage-prompts-crisis-for-families Fact they don't get minimum wage or paid holidays gets a mention in the last sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick73 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, thehowler said: Another Brexit calamity, the Gruniad reports on au pair crisis... Many families are facing a childcare crisis following a 75% slump in the number of young Europeans willing to work as au pairs, https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/jun/09/au-pair-shortage-prompts-crisis-for-families Fact they don't get minimum wage or paid holidays gets a mention in the last sentence. Yet the want more children, as they need more future tax payers ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, HairyOb1 said: Might just be the paper being stupid, but Denmark and Sweden aren't in the Euro. It is stating that the no vote for each joining the euro was accepted by the EU (which is nice of them).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyOb1 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: It is stating that the no vote for each joining the euro was accepted by the EU (which is nice of them).. Ah, of course. Too early for me I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnick Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, IMHAL said: Lax lending approved by our governments. The end of no recourse mortgages. The repeal of Glass Steagall. Bankers allowed to run riot. QE. More QE. ZIRP. Resulting in every market being distorted - including house prices. Pointing your finger at the EU????? Wrong. Ultimately the promise of more tax revenue for our politicians is enough to clinch the deal and let the bankers off the leash. Result, short term euphoria, long term misery. Think I worded it badly (very possible). I'll try again ...... What caused / causes inflation?...... and I am not pointing the finger at the EU....... but imagine if the EU (as well as national government were prevented, by law, from printing 'money'....... so that the house of 40 years back was almost the same price today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, maverick73 said: Well now they never have too... who wants to be controlled by a parilment so far away and without tacit knowledge of the country. This is one of the worst arguments for Brexit considering the harm our lot has done to this place. A lighthouse keeper on the southern tip of Chile knows more about 'this country' than anybody in Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 hours ago, pig said: For one thing a lot of this is ‘fake’: so many posts on here are obviously manically post-rationalised, echo-chamber SM pumped - the daft detail of the argument actually matters less than the hysteria that drives them. So there will be no ‘ta da you were wrong’ moment to be had - this mentality will just sneak off into some other alice in wonderland blame cul-de-sac. That moment is now anyway. Tarrifs and trade wars, pathetic unilateralism, Windrush, England with the poorest regions in Europe and 4m using food banks. I think you may be right Pig. That's why the whole thing is so exasperating. People are servant androids - they should start teaching themselves to look extremely closely at what both the right wing media and politicians spew. The right have ALWAYS been about money for the selected few. We are spinned things like the American Dream and May's speech immediately after Brexit. Inclusive my ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 hours ago, GrizzlyDave said: Aye - and let’s not forget it’s all on the tick. Perfect storm - that’s what I voted for. If photographed today, that drive would have '18 plates and a higher model - as the personal contract will have ensured the perpetual debt mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 hours ago, thehowler said: You don't mention the euro in your post, jonb2, are you in favour of the UK joining? Well I was happy as things were. But now I think it might happen whether the people want it or not - it's going to be choice between sharp decline or rejoining. I agree that lots of people will kick off about it - but then what is money anyway when its represented by symbols rather than its role in society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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