cnick

Should the public be educated that thin air 'money' is not the same as money borrowed from poeple?..... that there are two types of money, as it were. One where there's an injured party in the event of a default and one where there's none. and that's why the young have been priced out of housing. ?

Same goes for USA poeple..... ask them if they want massive army, they all agree....yes? Then ask them if they would mind paying $1000 directly to cover the cost.......what would be their answer ...... if they could chose freely they might just chose health over arms?...maybe?

And therein lies the the problem....... you know, I could be socialist (would be a danm sight easier) if I thought there would be some kind of order and limit to the massive amount of money creation, that seems(!) to benefit the 1% and massively distort asset (housing) prices. But as you say good luck with finding any political party not willing to buy votes with thin air credit.

Why can't I freely chose which services to use....? Why the need for threats of violence?

Well under the current system, we force the young to pay. Not nice, especially as they are least able to afford homes and pensions of their own.

Fair enough, you advocate violence on those who cause you no harm nor loss.

OK....... and what if I refused......bearing in mind I would cause no harm nor loss to you?

*based on coercion Imagine if tax payers were not forced to underwrite the thin air credit national 'debt'. What of a government that asked 'tax payers' if they would kindly cough up a cheque now to pay for their (todays) services Look, I realise this could never changed overnight......but the 'how we got here' must be discussed........else f' all will ever change. ?

But how can you legislate for greed?....... might not be appealing...... but doubt you could identify an injured party from the crime of greed?......whereas dishonesty is identifiable. ?

What's worse ........ greed or dishonesty? When a banking person creates purchasing power from nothing and gets paid for that 'service' (Cantillon effect?) ....... is that greed or dishonest. ?

So what would you do if I decided to stay?

yes, the absolute here is physical violence.... or the threat of it. 'Capitalism' that 'requires' coercion is NOT capitalism. We here have never known capitalism.

They already are forcing poeple. They have run up debts that you are forced to underwrite.... under a threat of physical violence, should you fail to comply......they will initiate force on you, even though you have not threatened them...... of course, some would say you are free to leave, free to not work..... but the fact remains, they will initiate lethal force on you, even though you have caused no harm nor loss to them.

Yes, but they are just extending labour policies.....print, tax, spend. ?