Errol Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Clear sign of recovery. I didn't notice Osborne talking about this in his statement ... Food Poverty In The UK Has Reached "Public Health Emergency" Levels http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-05/food-poverty-uk-has-reached-public-health-emergency-levels Edited December 6, 2013 by Errol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 More on this on the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25201759 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsox Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 More on this on the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25201759 What more BBC left-wing propaganda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Trussell Trust food bank use doubles in Barrow A food bank charity serving south Cumbria has been handing out more than twice as many boxes than it was 12 months ago. The Trussell Trust said demand in Barrow had increased by 104%, to more than 4,300 parcels, for the first six months of the financial year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-30205191 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Trussell: Every church that sets up a foodbank receives over £5,000 in value from the Trussell Trust in the first year alone: this includes an operating manual, onsite training, a template website, an online data collection system which supports their operations, a helpline, PR support, marketing materials and a share in the benefits of nationally negotiated fundraising initiatives and corporate relationships. http://www.trusselltrust.org/rumour-responseSo is the £5000 a useful figure for tax purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill D'arblay Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Pot noodle is a simple nutritious meal I have found which is quite easy to prepare. Unless it is on offer I find that any prepackaged food is way above my means. Its much cheaper and tastier to do it yourself. Having said that, Tesco are doing 50 frozen 'Value' sausage rolls for 80p - so I do partake. Btw - Tesco with their 'big data' club card must be weeping at the changing demographics. I used to spend £50 3 or 4 times a week on food and a couple of hundred a month on non food. Now my Tesco spend is NEVER over £5 and never more than a couple of times a week. The other £15 I spend in Lidl or Aldi. I also stopped with the petrol since I got my Vauxhall Agila gas powered on Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 My view is that the welfare system needs absolute root-and-branch reform. Get rid of all the family credits, family allowances, tax credits and all that hoo-ha, it's universalist nonsense left over from the 1940s; the welfare system never was and never will be universalist. Instead, concentrate on giving help where it's needed. Won't happen of course. If we must have charity I'd rather we had subsidised canteens (no jokes about Wetherspoon's please...).Admission would be with DSS permission only. It worked in the war with British Restaurants. This way you would get economies of scale and could promote healthy eating. Jamie Oliver could be in charge of it or something. Again, it won't happen because the statists will go on about soup kitchens and the H&S mob will say it's unhygienic, and the customers might even complain that they didn't like the food. Far easier just to give out tins of sugar and chemical laden processed food... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuBrit Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You *need* a hell of a lot less than that. Average food spend per adult per week in the UK is £23 according to ONS. £28 would be a fair bit above average. I spend a lot less. There's genuine poverty and they deserve to be helped, but many people seeking help are victims of lack of information, imagination and reason which would allow them to eat nutritiously for far less (although in some cases with difficulty, e.g. this does require at least one ring cooker, if you're in a bedsit with microwave or no facilities at all it becomes drastically harder) Think there needs to be education really. People should be given some kind of basic life skills course when at school. Teach them some basic cookery/prepping skills, give them a slow cooker, and then have them to up a budget on how they can eat for the week on £25 quid. No pre-made or processed food allowed. It's not easy, but you can certain live quite well of £25 a week with some proper planning and budgeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Every three minutes – that’s how often Hartlepool’s foodbank is called into action as more families struggle - http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/every-three-minutes-that-s-how-often-hartlepool-s-foodbank-is-called-into-action-as-more-families-struggle-1-6992900 Record demand for food banks in Cornwall - http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2014-12-08/record-demand-for-food-banks-in-cornwall/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglybear Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Think there needs to be education really. People should be given some kind of basic life skills course when at school. Teach them some basic cookery/prepping skills, give them a slow cooker, and then have them to up a budget on how they can eat for the week on £25 quid. No pre-made or processed food allowed. It's not easy, but you can certain live quite well of £25 a week with some proper planning and budgeting. And money to pay for the lecky and reasonably priced shops within a distance that allows you to get the food back home (not too far walking or reasonable bus routes and the money for bus fares). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It's not easy, but you can certain live quite well of £25 a week with some proper planning and budgeting. Two decades of trickeldown economics and this is the result? Maybe we need to give the rich more money, the last tranche clearly hasn't done the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Those hungry idiots need to get koto London property ASAP, before they miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Think there needs to be education really. People should be given some kind of basic life skills course when at school. Teach them some basic cookery/prepping skills, give them a slow cooker, and then have them to up a budget on how they can eat for the week on £25 quid. No pre-made or processed food allowed. It's not easy, but you can certain live quite well of £25 a week with some proper planning and budgeting. Do you mind dropping some hints/recipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Do you mind dropping some hints/recipes?Pasta fazool...plenty of variants of this simple dish from mainly non perishable foods.http://wearenotfoodies.com/pasta-fazool-thats-amore.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Do you mind dropping some hints/recipes? Gather your pitchforks and torches then carefully sharpen your guillotine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Gather your pitchforks and torches then carefully sharpen your guillotine? +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Two decades of trickeldown economics and this is the result? Maybe we need to give the rich more money, the last tranche clearly hasn't done the trick. At the risk of pilfering Dean Swifts ideas I think the poor should simply eat the rich. A Westminster Cannibal Apocalypse would do wonders for the political process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Oh dear the Spectator asks the question you are not supposed to. Well basically smoking and fatness is inverted to poverty, so guess what you are going to see fat people smoking their £100 a week fix of Marlboros in the food bank queue period. http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9398362/why-are-there-so-many-fat-people-in-pictures-of-food-banks/ Rod Liddle...the usual suspect. Edited December 13, 2014 by crashmonitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaker Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 awesomely relevant vid.... ​ ​Trussell Trust food banks are a franchise! ​Churches are paying £1500 to open up a Trussell Trust account. ​ ​Also, food banks paying 20% VAT on food from FairShare! ​Support INDEPENDENT food banks... ​ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Kind of backs up the Spectator article, two super sized food bankers loading up in the background (above video). I guess you'd need to go to Fortnum and Masons in Mayfair to see shoppers who look like they need food these days. http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9398362/why-are-there-so-many-fat-people-in-pictures-of-food-banks/ Edited December 13, 2014 by crashmonitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Kind of backs up the Spectator article, two super sized food bankers loading up in the background (above video). I guess you'd need to go to Fortnum and Masons in Mayfair to see shoppers who look like they need food these days. http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9398362/why-are-there-so-many-fat-people-in-pictures-of-food-banks/ Food banks are for greedy fat people ? Now that is ingenious. I've found further evidence - here is a chubby looking chap going on about food banks, surely conspiracy proven now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliegog Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 why are there videos in the background of a FOOD bank? very questioning of the Trussell Trust if you read their company details the food is given free, the volunteers are free, the space is probably free I am happy to put tins of stuff in the supermarkets collection points for those less well off to take if they are a bit short but will not support the T Trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 why are there videos in the background of a FOOD bank? very questioning of the Trussell Trust if you read their company details the food is given free, the volunteers are free, the space is probably free I am happy to put tins of stuff in the supermarkets collection points for those less well off to take if they are a bit short but will not support the T Trust. Tesco's food collections goes to trussell http://www.trusselltrust.org/tesco-collection And I think Sainsburys and Morrisons too. Lady on r4 saying how little food she has to feed her kids. The bloke from money box has spoken to her and it seems she's not getting IS for the kids, or CTC - so she is a bit screwed because of that - but a good foodbank would run people through the benefits checker to see they're getting everything they can. There's no point just giving people food for a few days if the problems they have that lead them to the foodbank could actually be solved. - benefits check - debt check and advice - info on credit unions - forward to support groups for ongoing support. - and then food to get them through a few days. If it's just about giving them some tins of (not) beans then it's almost useless. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime In the UK the policy is smash his fishing rod, then 'rent' him a very expensive replacement How about some land reform, stealing back some of the stolen commons, and allowing more people to grow own food again? Nope lets increase allotment rents. Edited December 14, 2014 by aSecureTenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepwello'nights Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) why are there videos in the background of a FOOD bank? very questioning of the Trussell Trust if you read their company details the food is given free, the volunteers are free, the space is probably free I am happy to put tins of stuff in the supermarkets collection points for those less well off to take if they are a bit short but will not support the T Trust. Well the donations in the supermarket collection points are probably sent to Trussell Trust food banks in most towns anyway. I googled the Trussell Trust and had a look at their accounts, all available on line just a few clicks away. From their accounts Salary and wage costs are £790k for about 40 paid staff. Deduct say 12% for Employers National Insurance and your left with an average salary of £20k. No employee (that includes directors) receives more than £60k. It looks to my eyes as a relatively egalitarian organisation. I don't see what's wrong with their employees being paid for the work they do. The Trust must do a great deal to organise, train help set up and run food banks across the country. I'm sure there are independent voluntary food banks with sincere and hardworking volunteers scattered around the country but surely the need for a systematic and organised approach will give a better outcome. In the youtube clip of New Cross food bank they make a point stating that they pay their employees a living wage. After reading through the comments on Reddit that Baroness, let them eat porridge, Anne Jenkin provoked I will be donating to them. Edited December 14, 2014 by sleepwello'nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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