Errol Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I would highly recommend Pralus chocolate. Not cheap though. http://www.chocolats-pralus.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGaz Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I've grown quite fond of the J D Gross chocolate at Lidl, I agree that 70% seems to be the sweet spot, They do an 82% that is just a little too bitter. The 35% stuff is nice if you like a more milky chocolate (I find it too moreish though ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 1347959223[/url]' post='909141120']green and blacks dark organic is 70 %. Its about the only common brand out there with out soya lecithin which apparently turns you into a woman. G and B is owned by Kraft now so they will no doubt destroy the quality at some point. proper dark chocolate has all sorts of medicinal qualities as well. Milk chocolate is just too full of sugar for any health benefits ( tasty though) I already am a woman. I've never liked milk chocolate, at least since I was about 9 or 10. And 90% does wonders for the endorphins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I find European/American chocolate very oily. I prefer the dry flaky type personally. Looks like Western chocolate could get a lot worse if the food producers have their way.. they want to replace emulsified cocoa oils with plain old emulsified hydrogenated vegetable oils.. Producers of high quality, small batch chocolate argue that mass production produces bad quality chocolate.[49] Some mass-produced chocolate contains much less cocoa (as low as 7% in many cases), and fats other than cocoa butter. Vegetable oils and artificial vanilla flavor are often used in cheaper chocolate to mask poorly fermented and/or roasted beans.[49]In 2007, the Chocolate Manufacturers Association in the United States, whose members include Hershey, Nestlé, and Archer Daniels Midland, lobbied the Food and Drug Administration to change the legal definition of chocolate to let them substitute partially hydrogenated vegetable oils for cocoa butter, in addition to using artificial sweeteners and milk substitutes.[58] Currently, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not allow a product to be referred to as "chocolate" if the product contains any of these ingredients.[59][60] Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You could do what I do and buy Green and Blacks cocoa powder, add to a pack of butter melted down in the pan, add fresh double cream, sweeten with honey. Then allow to cool and put in either the fridge or freezer. We'll have non of that vegetable fat/ palm oil crap here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabittenmoggie Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I've grown quite fond of the J D Gross chocolate at Lidl, I agree that 70% seems to be the sweet spot, They do an 82% that is just a little too bitter. The 35% stuff is nice if you like a more milky chocolate (I find it too moreish though ) . I'll second that. The lidl stuff is excellent. Personally I've always found green and blacks to be overrated crap. In fact I've never been too impressed with most of the so called higher quality brands available in the uk, apart front lindt. But ill never bother with Lindt again when I know J D Gross is cheaper and equally nice. Ps Hershey's kisses smell and taste like vomit. Why would anyone ever eat them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Aldi "Moser Roth" is the best, their 85% is better than Lindt and other speciality brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You could do what I do and buy Green and Blacks cocoa powder, add to a pack of butter melted down in the pan, add fresh double cream, sweeten with honey. Then allow to cool and put in either the fridge or freezer. We'll have non of that vegetable fat/ palm oil crap here! Can't see myself bothering to do that but it sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'll second that. The lidl stuff is excellent. Personally I've always found green and blacks to be overrated crap. In fact I've never been too impressed with most of the so called higher quality brands available in the uk, apart front lindt. But ill never bother with Lindt again when I know J D Gross is cheaper and equally nice. Ps Hershey's kisses smell and taste like vomit. Why would anyone ever eat them? Lidl choccy biscuit bars are good too. You get what is basically a Twix for 20/25p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 See Palm Fat in processed foods has been linked to the rapid spread of cancer in patients. This has been bubbling away in the background since mid-December until someone decided to pick on Nutella. The biggest users of Pam Lard are profit greedy American corporations on a quest to cheapen their costs in the pursuit of ever increasing corporate profits. I deliberately avoid cheapend products with the red light going on as soon as a company is bought by an American one, Cadbury is a prime example. I guess an Italian company is much easier for journalists to select for villification than American one armed to the teeth with lawyers. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbowed Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I think the Cadbury recipe was definitely changed, that plus the job losses which also left a bad taste. But it is not the only one. I used to like Green and Blacks Butterscotch, but that seemed to change a while back too. One of wife's colleagues also noted the tweak and so I don't think its just us. I assume the bean counters try to work out has much extra they will make by saving a bit on the ingredients vs the no of customers lost. But then again, Cobra beer, used to be 5%, now its 4.8% and I can taste the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, ChewingGrass said: See Palm Fat in processed foods has been linked to the rapid spread of cancer in patients. This has been bubbling away in the background since mid-December until someone decided to pick on Nutella. The biggest users of Pam Lard are profit greedy American corporations on a quest to cheapen their costs in the pursuit of ever increasing corporate profits. I deliberately avoid cheapend products with the red light going on as soon as a company is bought by an American one, Cadbury is a prime example. I guess an Italian company is much easier for journalists to select for villification than American one armed to the teeth with lawyers.  Palm oil poisons Dogs when they find it washed up on beaches and eat it, i wonder if thats the real reason they say you shouldn't feed you dog chocolate? (because it is stuffed with palm oil?)  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenpig Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 As I was coming thru Gatwick, they were selling various big bars of dairy milk for £2.50 to £3.00 per 100g in the duty free. You can get actual specialist chocolate for that price. Normal supermarket chocolate should be £1.00 per 100g. (I'm sure it was nearer 50p per 100g a couple of years ago.) Even in the newsagents, dairy milk was more expensive than tobkerone and Terrys chocolate oranges. I was so outraged, I bought a giant toblerone for the first time in my life. Its kind of embarrassing carrying those things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, workingpoor said: Palm oil poisons Dogs when they find it washed up on beaches and eat it, i wonder if thats the real reason they say you shouldn't feed you dog chocolate? (because it is stuffed with palm oil?) No - that'll be the theobromine. Funnily enough, theobromine is poisonous for humans too -- and the dangerous dosage for dogs is only about 3x that for humans.  Humans can, however, metabolise it faster, so the dosage is less likely to build up to a lethal dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steppenpig said: As I was coming thru Gatwick, they were selling various big bars of dairy milk for £2.50 to £3.00 per 100g in the duty free. You can get actual specialist chocolate for that price. Normal supermarket chocolate should be £1.00 per 100g. (I'm sure it was nearer 50p per 100g a couple of years ago.) Even in the newsagents, dairy milk was more expensive than tobkerone and Terrys chocolate oranges. I was so outraged, I bought a giant toblerone for the first time in my life. Its kind of embarrassing carrying those things around. Toblerone is another one that has been messed with.  Chucked the last one away it was that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steppenpig said: As I was coming thru Gatwick, they were selling various big bars of dairy milk for £2.50 to £3.00 per 100g in the duty free. You can get actual specialist chocolate for that price. Normal supermarket chocolate should be £1.00 per 100g. (I'm sure it was nearer 50p per 100g a couple of years ago.) Even in the newsagents, dairy milk was more expensive than tobkerone and Terrys chocolate oranges. I was so outraged, I bought a giant toblerone for the first time in my life. Its kind of embarrassing carrying those things around. Easily resolved, especially as you were in the newsagents.  Just buy a 'gentleman's magazine' and wrap it around the toblerone box. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnails Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Kraft as well truly trashed Cadbury. Changed recipe,  put the price up and shrunk bar size. The Cadbury Facebook page is so funny. I should thank kraft my chocolate habit when I buy petrol ended years ago. Lidl chocolate is nice though  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggers Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Unbowed said: But then again, Cobra beer, used to be 5%, now its 4.8% and I can taste the difference. Amen. (on the being able to taste the difference) I saw it (the reduction in strength to less than 5%) was a tax related point (unfortunately unable to point to the source). Not au fait with Cobra, but Stella and Budweiser (shudder) too have both gone the same way. Both/all taste like I won't be buying them again. More brands that seem to be relying on their name for sales, not taste/quality of product? In the beer stakes, there are too many other options (craft beer pubs - even in the supermarket too). The only "premium" lager brand that currently appears to maintain their quality level is Peroni, in my opinion. But then again, some places try and charge the premium price with awful delivery (flat, but blaming the glass - how about you provide a good glass?...) for that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggers Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, leggers said: Â (unfortunately unable to point to the source) And, unable to edit previous post: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17399368 ^ talks about reduction in alcohol levels in products, related to tax. http://www.alcoholpolicy.net/2012/01/lower-strength-drinks-heralded.html ^ and profit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Cadbury's Freddo chocolate bar price to rise to 30p due to rising commodity prices http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-cadburys-freddo-bar-price-hike-toblerone-brexit-gaps-owner-maker-mondelz-international-a7525086.html The Freddo is Dairy Milk, one of the better bars, they used to be 10p  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compukit UK101 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 On ‎17‎/‎09‎/‎2012 at 10:22 PM, Habeas Domus said: Its all about the cocoa content USA minimum standard for chocolate = 10% Dairy Milk= 23% European minimum standard for chocolate = 25% Galaxy = 25% Terry's Chocolate Orange = 25% Toblerone =28% Ritter Sport = 30% Lindt swiss classic milk chocolate = 30% Waitrose Continental milk chocolate = 30% Green & Blacks Milk Chocolate = 36% Rococo Organic Milk Chocolate = 37% Also you have to wonder what the other 77% is made of, probably more sugar Aldi chocolate is 30% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Compukit UK101 said: Aldi chocolate is 30% The above is good. The really good milk chocolates have cocoa percentages of 40% (Hotel Chocolat) and even higher. Some Godiva mexican single origin milk chocolate I had over Christmas was 44%. USA minimum standard for chocolate = 10%  - This isn't actually even chocolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Errol said: The above is good. The really good milk chocolates have coco percentages of 40% (Hotel Chocolat) and even higher. Some Godiva mexican single origin milk chocolate I had over Christmas was 44%. USA minimum standard for chocolate = 10%  - This isn't actually even chocolate. Chocolate coins are really, really disgusting these days. Is this an example of Gresham's Law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentingForever Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Remember that time the EU wanted to force our chocolate manufacturers to call it "vegelate" because the chocolate percentage was so low? Those euro b*ggers won't be able to do that post-Brexit; we can safely spiral down to US-style chocolate that tastes of sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Compukit UK101 said: Aldi chocolate is 30% I had (indeed, still have) a genuine Ohio Scientific Superboard II. Be off with you, you cloning impostor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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