anonguest Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? With low paid supermarket jobs? I'm sure all those 16-24 year olds the article alludes to (especially all those recent/forthcoming graduates with stack loads of debt) will be ever so grateful to have this as a 'career' ahead of them. Our PM thinks we should be grateful for this employment manna from heaven. Such is the true economic situation that this is the best they can hope for!? Modern day spin doctors coaching our political leaders in what to say must really think we are all stupid enough to unthinkingly lap up these words of comfort - and feel good!? Me cynical? Absolutely! After all cynicism is just an unpleasant way of telling the truth. Edited March 5, 2012 by anonguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Those 20,000 jobs will destroy 30,000 other retail jobs in the process. Homer Simpson to Cameron: "you're living in a world of make-believe, with flowers and bells and leprechauns, and magic frogs with funny little hats." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The firm said 10,000 of the jobs would be full and part-time positions, and the rest were apprenticeship placements for existing staff and new employees. I wonder what the split of 10k is between FT and PT? So 10k of these jobs aren't really jobs then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Almost half of tesco's current employees are full time. But in contracts can't full time guarantee as little as 8 hours a week? *I don't know if tesco run things in this way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democorruptcy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? With low paid supermarket jobs? I'm sure all those 16-24 year olds the article alludes to (especially all those recent/forthcoming graduates with stack loads of debt) will be ever so grateful to have this as a 'career' ahead of them. Our PM thinks we should be grateful for this employment manna from heaven. Such is the true economic situation that this is the best they can hope for!? Modern day spin doctors coaching our political leaders in what to say must really think we are all stupid enough to unthinkingly lap up these words of comfort - and feel good!? Me cynical? Absolutely! After all cynicism is just an unpleasant way of telling the truth. The Tesco CEO was on the news and he said a lot of the jobs were going to be part time because that suits today's workforce. (He didn't say because they could then claim benefits and be better off than working full time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Tesco are going into the convenience store side in a big way . There`s far greater margins in the convenience (tesco express/one stop) side and with there buying power they will lay waste to the corner shop I don't know if its true ,but got told by some one involved in the building/converting the above ,that they are looking at another 50 in Cardiff alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveAndLetBuy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? ... Well yes, I think decreasing wages is one way of becoming more economically competitive. The alternatives are for Tesco to either not employ these people, or to pay them more and pass the cost on to the customer. Which would you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democorruptcy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The shareholders won't be happy. More jobs means more wages. Why can't each employee just work harder and do the work of two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Prime Minister David Cameron said the news was a "massive confidence boost for the UK economy". #FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inflating Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The relentless march - not good news at all in fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I wonder if when Tesco creates jobs the government actually loses money thanks to tax credits. It wouldn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 From a nation of shopkeepers to a nation of shop workers. Even the unpaid customers are expected to swipe their own goods and pack their own bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democorruptcy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I wonder if when Tesco creates jobs the government actually loses money thanks to tax credits. It wouldn't surprise me. If Tesco set 2 people on they will pay a lower rate than they would a full time worker. The part time workers have less rights and can be easliy unloaded to set more on at a rubbish wage. Meanwhile the government subsidises it by paying the part time workers benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well yes, I think decreasing wages is one way of becoming more economically competitive. The alternatives are for Tesco to either not employ these people, or to pay them more and pass the cost on to the customer. Which would you prefer? Given no choice on the wage level issue, then I'd rather these paople were doing 'creative'/productive wealth generating jobs of some sort, any sort than just stacking shelves and passing tins of beans over a laser barcode reader. Is that too much to ask? That's not to say that, in the grand scheme of things, that people who do this for a living are of less 'worth'. At the end of the day they are an essential small cog in a much larger economic machine. BUT to come to rely on/be grateful for these sorts of jobs as a form of economic salvation is just plain wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Service jobs are not a sign of economic growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? With low paid supermarket jobs? I'm sure all those 16-24 year olds the article alludes to (especially all those recent/forthcoming graduates with stack loads of debt) will be ever so grateful to have this as a 'career' ahead of them. Our PM thinks we should be grateful for this employment manna from heaven. Such is the true economic situation that this is the best they can hope for!? Modern day spin doctors coaching our political leaders in what to say must really think we are all stupid enough to unthinkingly lap up these words of comfort - and feel good!? Me cynical? Absolutely! After all cynicism is just an unpleasant way of telling the truth. so let's get this right China's economic strength is built on a low paid efficient cheap workforce and when we try and do that ourselves apparently it's not high cost enough doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Service jobs are not a sign of economic growth. oh yes they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Tesco are going into the convenience store side in a big way . There`s far greater margins in the convenience (tesco express/one stop) side and with there buying power they will lay waste to the corner shop I don't know if its true ,but got told by some one involved in the building/converting the above ,that they are looking at another 50 in Cardiff alone odd, that when Tesco first started, about 40 years ago, they were going to lay waste to the corner store and the local grocery stores then. looks like they didnt, havent and arent going to either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 so let's get this right China's economic strength is built on a low paid efficient cheap workforce and when we try and do that ourselves apparently it's not high cost enough doh! See my reply earlier re: wage levels. Whilst increasing/higher wages in real terms and relative purchasing power is obviously desirable, in the first instance it is more desirable that the work done be 'productive' and 'wealth generating'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_flaps_* Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 oh yes they are How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglybear Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Tesco are going into the convenience store side in a big way . There`s far greater margins in the convenience (tesco express/one stop) side and with there buying power they will lay waste to the corner shop I don't know if its true ,but got told by some one involved in the building/converting the above ,that they are looking at another 50 in Cardiff alone Particularly when you remember that the One Stop chain belongs to the Tesco group. In at least one place in Cardiff you can stand outside a One Stop, look down the road and see a Tesco Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? With low paid supermarket jobs? I'm sure all those 16-24 year olds the article alludes to (especially all those recent/forthcoming graduates with stack loads of debt) will be ever so grateful to have this as a 'career' ahead of them. Our PM thinks we should be grateful for this employment manna from heaven. Such is the true economic situation that this is the best they can hope for!? Modern day spin doctors coaching our political leaders in what to say must really think we are all stupid enough to unthinkingly lap up these words of comfort - and feel good!? Me cynical? Absolutely! After all cynicism is just an unpleasant way of telling the truth. I left school in 1982, even in the middle of a nasty slump, anyone who ended up in a supermarket, when they left, was seen as a loser. How times have changed. They even have to pay for their degree in Salad Husbandry now. This country has had the spleen ripped from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 oh yes they are OK, so lets assume they are, (they arent when HMG is paying half the wages) should you need to get in to debt to work at Tescos? This is government backed, tax payer funded, corporate slavery, nowt else. Its ******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsafe As Houses Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17252738 Even IF they were ALL full-time jobs they are still LOW PAID jobs! Is this how the UK is supposed to regain its economic vitality and strength? With low paid supermarket jobs? I'm sure all those 16-24 year olds the article alludes to (especially all those recent/forthcoming graduates with stack loads of debt) will be ever so grateful to have this as a 'career' ahead of them. Our PM thinks we should be grateful for this employment manna from heaven. Such is the true economic situation that this is the best they can hope for!? Modern day spin doctors coaching our political leaders in what to say must really think we are all stupid enough to unthinkingly lap up these words of comfort - and feel good!? Me cynical? Absolutely! After all cynicism is just an unpleasant way of telling the truth. Should include SOME better paid supervisory/manergerial roles but I take your point the majpority of these jobs will not be worth doing for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraft Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Welcome to Tesco. I love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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