msi Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 UK justice minister invested in tax scheme contested by HMRC Lord David Wolfson QC, a justice minister, invested in a scheme in 2011 that generated £134m in tax allowances for hundreds of investors who paid £79m towards the construction of two data centres in Tyneside that have since sat empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 12:43, byron78 said: It implies voting is pointless and all parties are as bad. Now you're getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Locke said: Now you're getting it. But that's blatantly wrong? It also removes any ability you have to remove the more corrupt governments. And this one... wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, msi said: Lucky our Culture Secretary is on the case and not obsessed with LeFtY inFilTraTion Of SoCiAl MeDiA Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries has said people have become afraid to say what they think for fear of being "cancelled", and that left-wing activists have "hijacked" social media. All they care about right now is getting Paul Dacre into the Ofcom position. Very dangerous when they eventually do. Full Goebbels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, byron78 said: Sacked because of the government criticism by Lord Rothermere, apparently. I'm told Greig was really his wife's preference. Daily Mail has been doing well, but not happy the public are actually being informed instead of simply influenced. That is an outrageous slur! Lord Rothermere has previously confirmed under oath that he would never interfere in the editorial freedom of his papers! As an aside, I note that Lord Ruthermere's great grandfather was a certain Alfred Harmsworth, who Wiki tells us was: "the father of several of the United Kingdom's leading newspaper proprietors, five of whom were honoured with hereditary titles – two viscounts, one baron and two baronets." 56 minutes ago, byron78 said: Our good old "free press". Indeed Sir, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, byron78 said: All they care about right now is getting Paul Dacre into the Ofcom position. Very dangerous when they eventually do. Full Goebbels. How anyone could even consider taking someone from the media, let alone one of the most partial rags, is beyond me? I wonder what BoJo's Tories will think of next? Owen Patterson - MPs Standards Matt Hancock - Family Values why not go full whacko and put Gary Glitter for Children's minister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, msi said: Lucky our Culture Secretary is on the case and not obsessed with LeFtY inFilTraTion Of SoCiAl MeDiA Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries has said people have become afraid to say what they think for fear of being "cancelled", and that left-wing activists have "hijacked" social media. Doris is as thick as mince. Makes Cheesefinger Liz Truss look bookish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, byron78 said: But that's blatantly wrong? It also removes any ability you have to remove the more corrupt governments. And this one... wow. It seems you are suggesting that the best way to remove a corrupt government is...the system which put it there in the first place. This is like suggesting smoking as a cure for cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Locke said: It seems you are suggesting that the best way to remove a corrupt government is...the system which put it there in the first place. This is like suggesting smoking as a cure for cancer. Democracy? Yeah. Awful system. Edited November 19, 2021 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, byron78 said: No it isn't you utter dolt. What a highbrow response. It must have won you many a debate. 1 minute ago, byron78 said: Your options are not anarchy or corruption government. Yes, they literally are. Government is founded upon the initiation of violence. It is always immoral and will always become corrupt. Like any immorality, there is a binary and a scale. It is either happening or not, and if it is happening, there is a range of badness. Stealing 1% of a person's wealth is theft, just the same as stealing 100% of their wealth is. Just because you would choose one over the other if forced into a choice, does not make either "not theft". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Locke said: What a highbrow response. It must have won you many a debate. Yes, they literally are. Government is founded upon the initiation of violence. It is always immoral and will always become corrupt. Like any immorality, there is a binary and a scale. It is either happening or not, and if it is happening, there is a range of badness. Stealing 1% of a person's wealth is theft, just the same as stealing 100% of their wealth is. Just because you would choose one over the other if forced into a choice, does not make either "not theft". Taxes are a lot older than government. Far far older than democratic government as well. But this is not worth my time. Can't be bothered with binary positions now. Pointless, stupid, and immature. Blocked. Edited November 19, 2021 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, byron78 said: Taxes are a lot older than government. Far far older than democratic government as well. But this is not worth my time. Can't be bothered with binary positions now. Pointless, stupid, and immature. Blocked. Specifically the Income Tax was a 20rh century thing. It was also meant to be temporary to pay for war and levied on the most wealthiest Most people did not pay it or care for it . Now millions are paying 40%+ It is shameful and ought to be repealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, byron78 said: Blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, byron78 said: Taxes are a lot older than government. Far far older than democratic government as well. But this is not worth my time. Can't be bothered with binary positions now. Pointless, stupid, and immature. Blocked. 250 years ago you would have been one of the azzholes trying to prevent to abolition of slavery using broadly identical talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warlord said: Specifically the Income Tax was a 20rh century thing. It was also meant to be temporary to pay for war and levied on the most wealthiest Most people did not pay it or care for it . Now millions are paying 40%+ It is shameful and ought to be repealed. It is a fair point. Taxes did used to be on wealth and land. But obviously that won't happen again without some mad Corbynista getting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, byron78 said: It is a fair point. Taxes did used to be on wealth and land. But obviously that won't happen again without some mad Corbynista getting in. Too late, alas. Too late. Nothing and no-one will save the UK from national bankruptcy! https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/interest-payments-on-government-debt-doubled-year-on-year-in-october/ar-AAQTvvF The government's interest payments more than doubled as the government racked up another £18.8billion of borrowing last month. The cost of servicing the debt mountain hit £5.6billion in October, up from just £1.8billion in the same month of 2020. Although the bill is still relatively low, the spike underlines the UK's exposure after the pandemic hammered the public finances. There are concerns about inflation driving up interest rates and government costs further. Figures released by the Office for National Statistics showed the speed of the reduction in borrowing after the crisis has fallen sharply. The number for October was just £200million less than recorded a year ago, when the country was still under restrictions, and the second highest on record for the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Too late, alas. Too late. Nothing and no-one will save the UK from national bankruptcy! https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/interest-payments-on-government-debt-doubled-year-on-year-in-october/ar-AAQTvvF The government's interest payments more than doubled as the government racked up another £18.8billion of borrowing last month. The cost of servicing the debt mountain hit £5.6billion in October, up from just £1.8billion in the same month of 2020. Although the bill is still relatively low, the spike underlines the UK's exposure after the pandemic hammered the public finances. There are concerns about inflation driving up interest rates and government costs further. Figures released by the Office for National Statistics showed the speed of the reduction in borrowing after the crisis has fallen sharply. The number for October was just £200million less than recorded a year ago, when the country was still under restrictions, and the second highest on record for the month. Borrowed from whom? Are we just printing or are we actually in hock? Inflation looks more likely to me (but my eyes are old). Edited November 19, 2021 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, byron78 said: Borrowed from whom? Are we just printing or are we actually in hock? Inflation looks more likely to me (but my eyes are old). 1/3 printed 2/3rds to some fools in asia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Daily Mail management shake up will get rid of these pesky sleaze stories soon enough. Good thing Johnson knows who to call to shut this sort of thing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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msi Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Greensill: State bank risked £335m to back lender, say MPs Taxpayers may be liable for up to £335m after a government bank failed to scrutinise collapsed lender Greensill Capital properly, MPs have said. A Public Accounts Committee report on the British Business Bank's Covid loan scheme said checks to approve the company were "woefully inadequate". Greensill went on to lend £418m to companies, 80% of which may have to be repaid by taxpayers if they default. Ex-PM David Cameron was an adviser to the lender, which collapsed in March. Go on Tory Boys, tell me how its all ImMiGrAnTs AnD sCrOunGeRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 09:40, byron78 said: All they care about right now is getting Paul Dacre into the Ofcom position. Very dangerous when they eventually do. Full Goebbels. Looks like the furore of Tory Sleaze has a silver lining Dacre rails at civil service as he pulls out of Ofcom running Paul Dacre, the former Daily Mail editor, has pulled out of the running to chair UK media regulator Ofcom, amid fears in Conservative circles that his candidacy might have inflamed the Westminster “sleaze” row....Dacre added that he was taking up an “exciting new job” in the private sector. any ideas on where this 'exciting' job is? My guess is with GB News / Fox UK but only if they drop their silly LiBeRaL leaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 1:23 PM, msi said: Last time I check Unions have to ballot members to provide Political affiliation - and they can opt out Also Union proposals are put before Labour just as all other proposals - No smoke filled back room deals in friends villas or with Foreign Governments Yeah my point was Johnson admittedselling peerages - wtf are people waiting for he's basically admitted breaking the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Thinking about it, I’d love Cummings in charge of Ofcom 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 hours ago, msi said: Looks like the furore of Tory Sleaze has a silver lining Dacre rails at civil service as he pulls out of Ofcom running Paul Dacre, the former Daily Mail editor, has pulled out of the running to chair UK media regulator Ofcom, amid fears in Conservative circles that his candidacy might have inflamed the Westminster “sleaze” row....Dacre added that he was taking up an “exciting new job” in the private sector. any ideas on where this 'exciting' job is? My guess is with GB News / Fox UK but only if they drop their silly LiBeRaL leaning Gotta be Gbeebies and that will really rile Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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