Calcutta Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Short term Corbyn's destruction of the economy might lower house prices, but long term the millions he imports will only serve to increase demand. The Tories don't have a majority, May can do f'all against the VIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Calcutta said: Short term Corbyn's destruction of the economy might lower house prices, but long term the millions he imports will only serve to increase demand. The Tories don't have a majority, May can do f'all against the VIs. Yup, she lost the plot and threw away her majority, at least that's something to be grateful for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromage Frais Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Margaret Thatcher was a proper Conservative, the current shower are NuLabour lite! I have to agree a proper hard money free market conservative would not allow cheap money to inflate and then would not step in to keep that going. I am speaking as someone with a family that liked the thatcher years as they went from close to poverty to a reasonable self employed life. I get upset when young people I know complain about the free market in regards to housing its not its corporate socialism. My take is that its all about to go to shit and May is going to sub her mates building houses to see them through the collapse and claim credit for it. if thats the way it works out fair enough I would rather that than more taxes Edited November 16, 2017 by Fromage Frais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcutta Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Yup, she lost the plot and threw away her majority, at least that's something to be grateful for. The shelving of the grammar schools plan was a massive loss for my children and our area. But if having a weakened government means she has to respect the likes of Rees Mogg and get the Brexit done properly before falling on her sword then it's a worthwhile sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) A Sky reporter just suggested that she will cut stamp duty and extend Help to Buy . Edited November 16, 2017 by Bruce Banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disenfranchised Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Social Justice League said: Tens of millions of new for rent only council houses are what we need. Tens of millions? No thanks. Complete nanny state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: A Sky reporter just suggested that she will cut stamp duty and extend Help to Buy . Yes, we know what the Tories will do... They will simply throw more debt on the bonfire to keep the fires of the housing bubble burning. They know adding more money only inflates house prices. They are doing it deliberately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tempus said: Yes, we know what the Tories will do... They will simply throw more debt on the bonfire to keep the fires of the housing bubble burning. They know adding more money only inflates house prices. They are doing it deliberately. These are not Tories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Tempus said: Yes, we know what the Tories will do... They will simply throw more debt on the bonfire to keep the fires of the housing bubble burning. They know adding more money only inflates house prices. They are doing it deliberately. all wrapped up like they are doing something constructive for non home owners. Whats needed is violence on the streets lots of it , VI`s targeted firstly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Bruce Banner said: These are not Tories! Who, what or where are the real Tories? (real question). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habeas Domus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 She knows more rate rises and a crash are on the way, so how to claim credit for it - build a extra 50,000 houses and claim that's what made the difference, In reality it will be a drop in the ocean but a lot of idiots will fall for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Freezer? Best place for it said: Who, what or where are the real Tories? (real question). Real Conservatives believe in free markets with minimal intervention, ie small government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Real Conservatives believe in free markets with minimal intervention, ie small government. When did a Tory government not have a rigged market? All I see are rigging away, why is their such deviance from this goal? (Apart from most MP's up to their back wheels in BTL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suresh786 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 So no HPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, suresh786 said: So no HPC The'll do their best to stop prices falling, but they'll fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggler000 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 hours ago, iamnumerate said: At least she wants to more than Blair did. Resigning would be a good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Habeas Domus said: She knows more rate rises and a crash are on the way, so how to claim credit for it - build a extra 50,000 houses and claim that's what made the difference, In reality it will be a drop in the ocean but a lot of idiots will fall for it. they don`t need to build more they need to force landlords to sell up including ones holding property in ltd companies . but will they NO CHANCE. ALL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED by the guardian , loads of anti btl boomer comments. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/16/sajid-javid-defends-millennials-housing-market-avocados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dražen Petrović Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Bruce Banner said: Now we're really in trouble . www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-housing-crisis-mission-latest-uk-shortage-crisis-homes-a8057046.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlevania Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Fromage Frais said: I have to agree a proper hard money free market conservative would not allow cheap money to inflate and then would not step in to keep that going. I am speaking as someone with a family that liked the thatcher years as they went from close to poverty to a reasonable self employed life. I get upset when young people I know complain about the free market in regards to housing its not its corporate socialism. My take is that its all about to go to shit and May is going to sub her mates building houses to see them through the collapse and claim credit for it. if thats the way it works out fair enough I would rather that than more taxes Yep it's crony capitalism. It annoys me too when people moan about capitalism as if it's an awful thing. Somewhere along the line land as an input of production got subsumed into the capital component. What a lot of people see as capitalism and get annoyed about is actually rentierism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkwell Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, longgone said: they don`t need to build more they need to force landlords to sell up including ones holding property in ltd companies . but will they NO CHANCE. Yes. BTL mortgages need to be completely wiped out and those already ongoing taxed out of existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca13 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Social Justice League said: Tens of millions of new for rent only council houses are what we need. Being in debt to a bank is so 2006. The banks can whistle dixy, as they are already insolvent anyway. You can’t fix anything unless you close the boarders.. the migrant crisis will continue to accelerate until the next French election when LePen gets in.. that would stop the intolerable EU in their tracks, although Austria already has a Nazi coalition.. Italy in 2018 so see what happens there.. but our boarders are our own and they must close.. population increase makes the country worse.. Edited November 17, 2017 by macca13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca13 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bruce Banner said: Real Conservatives believe in free markets with minimal intervention, ie small government. All they do is steel and lie, 2nd jobs in the sectors over which they reside, BTL properties, voting against making homes fit for human habitation.. funded by house builders, giving billions of tax payers debt! To house builders and banker chums, David Cameron’s best mate is a land banker.. it’s just greed and corruption.. has anyone got guyfalks number on speed dial? I’ve got a large gunpowder display I would like him to ignite for me.. Edited November 17, 2017 by macca13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 15 hours ago, disenfranchised said: Tens of millions? No thanks. Complete nanny state. Not everyone wants to buy a house and be in debt to a bank for 30 years, paying interest every month to fund lifestyles of the corrupt. In fact, no one with half a brain does. The banking system is over anyway, as they are all insolvent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Build as many for rent only houses as it takes to meet all demand. Those who want to buy a house can still do so. We have plenty of land to build on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disenfranchised Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Social Justice League said: Not everyone wants to buy a house and be in debt to a bank for 30 years, paying interest every month to fund lifestyles of the corrupt. In fact, no one with half a brain does. The banking system is over anyway, as they are all insolvent. And a lot of people don't want to be answerable to a landlord. We need a functional property market that works for the majority as well as social housing. We certainly don't want a repeat of the tax credit fiasco, making a couple million state dependent for no good reason and paying them to remain under-employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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