SarahBell Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 http://www.enwl.co.uk/news-and-press/latest-news/2013/01/16/16-01-2013-2m-power-upgrade-for-oldham-residents A few years ago the water board replaced miles of mains pipe. A massive amount of work. Now it seems the electric board is going to change some cable too. This lot is not being done near me - although in the past 6 months we've had two sections of cable need replacing within a street of here. Cabling that I assume is also over 50 years old. If it all needs replacing then this is also going to be a massive amount of work. And money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 http://www.enwl.co.uk/news-and-press/latest-news/2013/01/16/16-01-2013-2m-power-upgrade-for-oldham-residents A few years ago the water board replaced miles of mains pipe. A massive amount of work. Now it seems the electric board is going to change some cable too. This lot is not being done near me - although in the past 6 months we've had two sections of cable need replacing within a street of here. Cabling that I assume is also over 50 years old. If it all needs replacing then this is also going to be a massive amount of work. And money. Oh, I'm sure the replacement cost will have been taken into account over the lifetime of the current infrastructure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This is why your power bills are so high, they price in infrastructure upgrades as and when they need to do them. Since privation it's more need to do them rather than when. Same for water, the price of that has gone up considerably in the last decade or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebrum Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This shouldn't be a problem, not given the billions that the power cos have been investing in offshore tax havens infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Since privation it's more need to do them rather than when. Not seen it used like that before, but so accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 They will get a good price for it scrap perhaps they seen this My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If it all needs replacing then this is also going to be a massive amount of work. And money. Weirdly it was all laid in the first place. Strage that. As luck would have it there's 3 million people with b*gger all to do so it shouldn't be a problem. As further luck would have it there's now graphene - and that's going to replace everything, even people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This will be good for the GDP figures! Broken windows..I mean cables! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappycocco Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 no worries, the education system is so useless nobody knows whats going on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Who wants to spend money on boring essential infrastructure when instead you can throw it at a pointless whizzy shiny railway and the like? There are other similar things to worry about, how long before most motorway bridges start coming to the end of their lives at around the same time? Some are already showing signs... Edited January 16, 2013 by Riedquat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Who wants to spend money on boring essential infrastructure when instead you can throw it at a pointless whizzy shiny railway and the like? What we really need is a MONORAIL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Weirdly it was all laid in the first place. Strage that. As luck would have it there's 3 million people with b*gger all to do so it shouldn't be a problem. As further luck would have it there's now graphene - and that's going to replace everything, even people. I suspect it was added as they built the roads road here - from the 30s onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 http://www.enwl.co.uk/news-and-press/latest-news/2013/01/16/16-01-2013-2m-power-upgrade-for-oldham-residents A few years ago the water board replaced miles of mains pipe. A massive amount of work. Now it seems the electric board is going to change some cable too. This lot is not being done near me - although in the past 6 months we've had two sections of cable need replacing within a street of here. Cabling that I assume is also over 50 years old. If it all needs replacing then this is also going to be a massive amount of work. And money. ' Water Board'? 'Electricity Board'? Where have you been for the last 30 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You wait until the Gas Mob arrive to replace the Gas Mains and your pipe to the meter using the Mole Method. They have been in my area now for 4 months although the existing pipes were only 37 years old. Who is paying for this I asked a NG man, "probably you Sir" he replied in your future Gas Bills as this is a Countrywide Operation eventually costing £Billions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 A few years ago the water board replaced miles of mains pipe. A massive amount of work.Now it seems the electric board is going to change some cable too. This lot is not being done near me - although in the past 6 months we've had two sections of cable need replacing within a street of here. Cabling that I assume is also over 50 years old. If it all needs replacing then this is also going to be a massive amount of work. And money. Calm down and don't worry. This is why the networks were privatised... so private companies would invest the money needed to improve, upgrade and update the networks. It's not going to be a problem as the private companies will have been doing all the required replacements and upgrades systematically for the last 30 years to keep our network efficient and up-to-date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sombreroloco Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Picture of old Cable that needs replacing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglybear Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Who wants to spend money on boring essential infrastructure when instead you can throw it at a pointless whizzy shiny railway and the like? There are other similar things to worry about, how long before most motorway bridges start coming to the end of their lives at around the same time? Some are already showing signs... Certainly are already showing signs, says someone who took for-flaming-ever to get to and from London on the coach the last two trips. Picturesque diversions around Hammersmith and some dump near Heathrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 All this work is urgent to deal with the increased population of 10 Million in the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 All this work is urgent to deal with the increased population of 10 Million in the next decade. And to cope with a few extra solar systems. Been reading about new rules for installations - something about having to check how many installations already in your area and that you might get refused permission if there are 'too many'/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Calm down and don't worry. This is why the networks were privatised... so private companies would invest the money needed to improve, upgrade and update the networks. It's not going to be a problem as the private companies will have been doing all the required replacements and upgrades systematically for the last 30 years to keep our network efficient and up-to-date. Very tongue-in-cheek If you privatise infrastructure which people have no choice but to use, does the buyer of said infrastructure: 1. Invest in providing quality, modern services, or 2. Milk it for all its worth and hand the begging bowl to the taxpayer to pay for the upkeep and upgrades? BT is another prime example. Still, I suppose it brought in some money for the Conservative government and created a short-lived feelgood factor, which is what our Governments are for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Still, I suppose it brought in some money for the Conservative government and created a short-lived feelgood factor, which is what our Governments are for.. Except one of the reasons the infrastructure was privatised was because governments had run it down for decades with minimal maintenance and didn't want to pay the bill to upgrade everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsox Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Very tongue-in-cheek If you privatise infrastructure which people have no choice but to use, does the buyer of said infrastructure: 1. Invest in providing quality, modern services, or 2. Milk it for all its worth and hand the begging bowl to the taxpayer to pay for the upkeep and upgrades? BT is another prime example. Still, I suppose it brought in some money for the Conservative government and created a short-lived feelgood factor, which is what our Governments are for.. Answer: No. 1 National Grid is allowed to make a regulatory return based on the value of its asset base. Therefore, to a point, the more they invest the more they can make Well that's how it worked for the first 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfar Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As someone who has had two power cuts in the space of a month because of this very issue, I can say it is a pain in the ****. Both times it has caused the fuses at the substation to blow, both time I have been told they have replaced the cable. I beg to differ as there is a ruddy great hole at the bottom of my road with a temporary junction in it, hope it doesn't rain or snow hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Doesn't look like he's been laid for a long time. Are you volunteering to lay cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Answer: No. 1 National Grid is allowed to make a regulatory return based on the value of its asset base. Therefore, to a point, the more they invest the more they can make Well that's how it worked for the first 20 years. Perhaps you've found the exception that proves the rule.. Are you volunteering to lay cable? I suspect the ducting may be near to collapse by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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