Ash4781 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354 Blimey. My memories of a hero smashed to pieces with a wrecking ball. What a git! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Texans cheat and lie to gain advantage. Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Texans cheat and lie to gain advantage. Who knew. Everyone is doing it so it doesn't matter. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354 Blimey. My memories of a hero smashed to pieces with a wrecking ball. What a git! Never mind, you've still got Bilbo Baggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone baby gone Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well, well, well... Turns out he's quite the little sociopath. Trying to paint himself as a the victim Does anyone want a yellow wristband for half price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Turns out he's quite the little sociopath. Trying to paint himself as a the victim Does anyone want a yellow wristband for half price? Devious. Vindictive. Blaming everyone else. Is Lance Armstrong a woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57percent Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He came across really badly. Someone on twitter was suggesting he kept pausing to consider how a human would react. This may have back fired on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Turns out he's quite the little sociopath. Trying to paint himself as a the victim I got that impression. http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-10-25/lance-armstrongs-failure-to-come-clean-is-classic-hallmark-of-narcissistic-personality-says-psychologist/ A leading New Jersey psychologist believes Lance Armstrong is a classic narcissist who is clinging to his “tattered heroic façade.”“Armstrong’s failure to come clean even in the face of undeniable evidence further belies his need to cling to some remnant of his tattered heroic façade,” Dr. Sam Von Reiche told Celebuzz. “His inability to take responsibility for his actions is a classic hallmark of narcissistic personality.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354 Blimey. My memories of a hero smashed to pieces with a wrecking ball. What a git! The BBC seem to be incapable of reporting something without applying their own spin: his cancer fight in the mid-1990s gave him a "win-at-all costs" attitude He did not say that his "win-at-all costs" attitude came from his cancer fight. He said that this attitude "served him well" in his cancer fight, i.e. he was always like that. http://www.oprah.com/own/Lance-Armstrongs-Ruthless-Desire-to-Win-Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bewildered_renter Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 On the subject of his attack an Andreu, from the LA Times article about the interview: LA Times "If they said 10 things and eight of them are right and two of them are false, then I have every right to go after them," Armstrong said, which was met with a bit of incredulity from Oprah. yeah, right, 8 out of 10 and he still hasn't got you bang to rights? I can't help thinking that 7 wins was just plain greedy. I remember watching Indurain crack the year after his 5th win - at that point 5 wins put him in a very select group of winners. The narcissist hypothesis stacks up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albimac Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Narcissism really has become quite the buzz word. I can't remember ever hearing it until Our Gordon was running for re-election (although he wasn't elected the first time). What did we used to call people like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Narcissism really has become quite the buzz word. I can't remember ever hearing it until Our Gordon was running for re-election (although he wasn't elected the first time). What did we used to call people like this? C*nts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungeared Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 C*nts! That made me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Warren Beatty, the man so vain he really did think 'You're So Vain' was about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He is clearly a bit of a **** and deserves the abuse he gets. However it is pretty obvious nearly all of the others were at it too. Not that it makes any of it right - however others will be getting away with this Scot free. Ps - i wonder if there is any chance all the chemicals he put in his body were perhaps linked to his cancer ? Seems so - google Testicular cancer anabolic steroids and you'll find the info + speculation about Armstrong's condition: http://www.unco.edu/shc/topics/steroids.htm So he wasn't just a cheat, but self-destructive as well. Not sure that fits with narcissism. Worst thing is the aggression he showed to people seeking the truth. Nasty ******er. Saw a documentary ages ago, fly on the wall stuff about his married life with Cheryl Crowe - no surprise when they divorced a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sombreroloco Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who was stupid enough to believe that one can win 7 T d F in a row without any "assistance"? The media are a bunch of hypocrites. <Placeholder for Usain Bolt here...> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustYield Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 How about those 7 Tour de France wins though? Quite a remarkable achievement, however he did it. It's not as if he didn't cover all those miles (without crashing, missing the break-aways, or blowing up in the time-trials) or all the other riders were squeaky clean... amazing team, tactical and individual achievements. I'm liking my post-Modern approach to sport. I prefer it to all the hand-wringing hypocrisy we're seeing now. As to Bolt - long may he continue to be the fastest man who ever walked the earth. I won't be the one questioning his achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 How about those 7 Tour de France wins though? Quite a remarkable achievement, however he did it. It's not as if he didn't cover all those miles (without crashing, missing the break-aways, or blowing up in the time-trials) or all the other riders were squeaky clean... amazing team, tactical and individual achievements. I'm liking my post-Modern approach to sport. I prefer it to all the hand-wringing hypocrisy we're seeing now. As to Bolt - long may he continue to be the fastest man who ever walked the earth. I won't be the one questioning his achievements. And you'd have the same attitude were you the person in 10th place in 2004, where 7 of the 9 ahead of you were subsequently found to be doping? Or if you were a woman rider, whos sport was deprived sponsorship as a result of Lance and Co sucking in a lot of the dosh because of 'the story'? Your view is naive in the extreme, Armstrong's actions have had many untold consequences for the careers of non-doping cyclists- some might have been sacked from teams, never given a chance in the top events in the first place etc. As an HPCer, you'd presumably not appreciate the fiscal doping of the indebted and its consequences for the other, financially healthy competitors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I didn't know cheetahs rode bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bewildered_renter Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Looks a little confused. Is he in yellow, or the king of the mountains (polka-dot)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 How about those 7 Tour de France wins though? Quite a remarkable achievement, however he did it. It's not as if he didn't cover all those miles (without crashing, missing the break-aways, or blowing up in the time-trials) or all the other riders were squeaky clean... amazing team, tactical and individual achievements. I'm liking my post-Modern approach to sport. I prefer it to all the hand-wringing hypocrisy we're seeing now. As to Bolt - long may he continue to be the fastest man who ever walked the earth. I won't be the one questioning his achievements. so, if i get you right, you don't care if the top athletes are juiced, even though the official line is that they are competing clean, and you don't mind that genuinely clean athletes will never be able to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCandyman Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It wasn't just the doping that allowed him to win, a lot of them were doping. Any clean athletes were probably finishing 70th, if we assume that Lance and the people around him were world class without drugs - EPO and blood doping gives like a 13% increase in performance. Given the transfers between teams and that most of the top teams were monitoring blood levels etc, I dont see any way for ANYONE racing in the tour to not realise that everyone is doping. Lance would have done anything to win, including dying either through doping or exhaustion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Lance would have done anything to win, including dying either through doping or exhaustion The USADA report also contains evidence that he paid people off to lose at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 and you don't mind that genuinely clean athletes will never be able to beat them. That and the ones that die as a result of taking drugs they wouldn't otherwise have used: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39997062/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Looks like the BBC are pushing another Lance documentary to be broadcast this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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