Young Tory Mps Blame Lazy Baby Boomers For Britain's Economic Decline

[Britney's Piers]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9483268/Young-Tory-MPs-blame-lazy-baby-boomers-for-Britains-economic-decline.html

The five, who are all 40 or younger and entered Parliament at the last election, are publishing a new book in which they say that "lazy" Brits prefer a lie-in to hard work.

Due to be published on the eve of the Conservative Party election, the book, called Britannia Unchained – Global Growth and Prosperity, also criticises the "baby boomer" generation for seeking to raise taxes for young workers to pay for their lavish pension pots.

[corevalue]

What "lavish" pension pot. The mean the state pension, one of the lowest in Europe? FFS, workers in Malaysia work the same hours as us, and have about twice as many bank holidays. Oh, wait a minute, they must be talking about themselves. Have any of them done productive work in their short, pampered little lives?

[Lewis Gordon Pugh]

****** them and ****** their 'book'

[porca misèria]

Bit of spin there.

You make two points. One: Lazy brits to blame. Two: taxes on workers paying for over-generous pensions.

The headline conflates the two to present a misleading conclusion which is not at all implied by the two points.

FWIW, both the points are misplaced. It's not so much lazy Brits themselves as the system that pushes them to laziness that's to blame. And the lavish pensions are rapidly converging with the basic state pension at age 67 or 68 for all but a lucky few.

[edit: add pension age]

Edited August 18, 2012 by porca misèria

[EUBanana]

Too many parasites slurping hungrily at the national jugular, yup, but not in the sense that those muppets think. Those muppets are the parasites, in a big way.

[Si1]

I wouldn't call boomers lazy, just peculiarly self indulgent and inefficient

[stormymonday_2011]

What "lavish" pension pot. The mean the state pension, one of the lowest in Europe? FFS, workers in Malaysia work the same hours as us, and have about twice as many bank holidays. Oh, wait a minute, they must be talking about themselves. Have any of them done productive work in their short, pampered little lives?

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Given a very safe Tory seat. Destined to become typical House of Commons Lobby fodder living off the taxpayer for decades while holding down a nice legal job on the side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priti_Patel

Kwasi Kwarteng - worked in 'financial services the industry that helped blow the debt bubble and has just had to be bailed out by the lazy good for nothing British workers to the tune of billions of pounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

Edited August 18, 2012 by stormymonday_2011

[gf3]

Here's an Idea I've been playing with and I am going to be shoot on here for saying it.

Imagine tomorrow everybody’s tax went up by £100 a month.

My view is that all rents would have to come down by the same amount and house prices would have to fall because people haven't got the money any more.

The plebs having less money would hit the rich harder than the plebs.

Again if tax was cut by £100 rents would go up and so would houses and swallow all the gains.

[Bob Loblaw]

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia..../Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia....Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with Lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Typical Torry Lobby fodder

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Priti_Patel

Kwasi Kwarteng - worked in 'financial services the industry that helped blow the debt bubble and has just had to be bailed out by the lazy good for nothing British workers to the tune of billions of pounds.

http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

I can second that, except I don't smoke so put in far more time relative to my smoking colleagues. I also see a lot of foreign workers work long, long hours but their productivity is very low. Seems to be an attitude that as long as you are seen to be working long hours then your productivity can not be questioned.

[@contradevian]

Strong rope and lamposts springing to mind.

[erranta]

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia..../Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia....Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with Lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Typical Torry Lobby fodder

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Priti_Patel

Kwasi Kwarteng - worked in 'financial services the industry that helped blow the debt bubble and has just had to be bailed out by the lazy good for nothing British workers to the tune of billions of pounds.

http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

Scamming Con 'Plants' who are shown up showing how out of touch they are with ordinary prole lives

2007

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[Daveky]

Walk down any high street during the day and see plenty of loafers wandering aimlessly around or buying crap. You just know they're all on benefits, hell most of the population are on benefits of some form. Single mums are the most prevalent, lazy scrotes spit out a couple of useless little turds and expect to get paid for the next 20 years. The wrong people are being encouraged to breed and that's why this country will continue to go down the toilet.

[@contradevian]

Walk down any high street during the day and see plenty of loafers wandering aimlessly around or buying crap. You just know they're all on benefits, hell most of the population are on benefits of some form. Single mums are the most prevalent, lazy scrotes spit out a couple of useless little turds and expect to get paid for the next 20 years. The wrong people are being encouraged to breed and that's why this country will continue to go down the toilet.

There are also a lot of people sitting on chairs, whinging in internet forums about other "idle" people!

Go and create some jobs for them then. Not exactly hearing factory owners crying out for workers, struggling to fill jobs.

Round these parts if you are unskilled/semi skilled its all part time, zero contract working tax credit stuff. No proper jobs at all.

I'm wondering how many more hand car wash places, this town can take!

If you are going to outsource all the work to China, and import cheaper labour, don't moan when there are loads of idle scroats around. They can't all be budding entrepreneurs like you!

Edited August 18, 2012 by Socially Housed

[thecrashingisles]

Well go and create some jobs for them then. Not exactly hearing factory owners crying out for workers, struggling to fill jobs.

Round these parts if you are unskilled/semi skilled its all part time, zero contract working tax credit stuff. No proper jobs at all.

I'm wondering how many more hand car wash places, this town can take!

If you are going to outsource all the work to China, and pay tax in Luxemberg, don't moan when there are loads of idle scroats around. They can't all be budding entrepreneurs like you!

That's only possible when the system and inflated cost of living doesn't price them out of work. It might be possible to create jobs that would pay them £4 an hour for example but they wouldn't accept it even if they could.

[Si1]

Seems to be an attitude that as long as you are seen to be working long hours then your productivity can not be questioned.

that's a kind of british disease and all comes down to control-freakery

[nmarks]

Walk down any high street during the day and see plenty of loafers wandering aimlessly around or buying crap. You just know they're all on benefits, hell most of the population are on benefits of some form. Single mums are the most prevalent, lazy scrotes spit out a couple of useless little turds and expect to get paid for the next 20 years. The wrong people are being encouraged to breed and that's why this country will continue to go down the toilet.

Try putting your real name to that.

[Take Me Back To London!]

Walk down any high street during the day and see plenty of loafers wandering aimlessly around or buying crap. You just know they're all on benefits, hell most of the population are on benefits of some form. Single mums are the most prevalent, lazy scrotes spit out a couple of useless little turds and expect to get paid for the next 20 years. The wrong people are being encouraged to breed and that's why this country will continue to go down the toilet.

I do believe we have gone beyond the point of no return in the UK and it is going to be fun when our moment under the sun comes.

[Self Employed Youth]

That's only possible when the system and inflated cost of living doesn't price them out of work. It might be possible to create jobs that would pay them £4 an hour for example but they wouldn't accept it even if they could.

Give us 72 hours a week and pay cash in hand, when can I start?

[Take Me Back To London!]

Strong rope and lamposts springing to mind.

For whom?

If that arrangement is for the politicos, then I would highly recommend piano wire instead of rope.

[Asheron]

Governments engineer the society they wish for, Over approx 100 years the people in power can manipulate and make the population believe anything they want or become lazy or hard working.

Giving out benefits and making everyone dependant on government creates a different type of society.

Give me all the power and within 100 years I could make everyone in the United Kingdom believe that sex with animals is normal. And killing anyone over the age of 50 is good for Mother Earth.

[Take Me Back To London!]

Here's an Idea I've been playing with and I am going to be shoot on here for saying it.

Imagine tomorrow everybody’s tax went up by £100 a month.

My view is that all rents would have to come down by the same amount and house prices would have to fall because people haven't got the money any more.

The plebs having less money would hit the rich harder than the plebs.

Again if tax was cut by £100 rents would go up and so would houses and swallow all the gains.

An interesting suggestion.

IMO, the welfare state is inflating the rental and house prices and don't need more encouragement by paying more tax. Housing benefits need to be cut right back, even £400 a week is too much and needs to be retrospective.

[Take Me Back To London!]

Governments engineer the society they wish for, Over approx 100 years the people in power can manipulate and make the population believe anything they want or become lazy or hard working.

Giving out benefits and making everyone dependant on government creates a different type of society.

Give me all the power and within 100 years I could make everyone in the United Kingdom believe that sex with animals is normal. And killing anyone over the age of 50 is good for Mother Earth.

Yes, it has not come about by accident.

[@contradevian]

An interesting suggestion.

IMO, the welfare state is inflating the rental and house prices and don't need more encouragement by paying more tax. Housing benefits need to be cut right back, even £400 a week is too much and needs to be retrospective.

Not going to happen. They are currently working hard to make so called affordable rents higher than unaffordable rents. In my town a studio/bedsit on the "unaffordable" market is now £270, the same as "affordable" social rent. It has been ordained from on high that "affordable" rents go up for ever with above inflation rises.

[MiCasaSuCasa]

"Britons are lazy because they prefer to have a lie-in rather than working hard"

What bizarre language. Surely preference has nothing to do with it. I'm sure people in Asian sweatshops would prefer a lie-in too.

Maybe it is just an unfortunate choice of language. Perhaps career politicians are too busy working hard to learn the importance of the subtleties of the English language.

[winkie]

Surely the aim is to be self-sufficient, pay your own way in life not be dependant on benefits, repay debts live comfortably within in an income that provides for needs.....anyone can lie in bed as long as they like if that is what they like doing so long as they make enough to pay the bills + some extra......that would then leave the more better paid jobs for others to do enabling them to work to doing the same.......what we have is people with too much wanting much more and people with not enough unable to earn enough for whatever reason.zzzzzzz