winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, anonguest said: Your neighbour endlessly rants over the garden fence how he wants to destroy you - and periodically lobs small missiles at your house and garden. Apart from occasional middle of the night foray into his garden to remove a pile of stones you have seen him accumulate, and which you know will imminently be used against your property, you ignore him. One day he walks up to you and punches you in the face. And you want to tell me that you would, at that point, still preach restraint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stewy said: Oil at three week low 😆 Quite bizarre how oil has fallen after this news. Were they pricing in something worse or was there some other economy news we missed? Edited April 19 by fellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, winkie said: I'll take it your completely empty reply means you are lost for words? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 World leaders do what they want......it is the innocent people from all sides that just want to live their lives in peace more interested in, lived together for hundreds of years.....the fighting neighbours throwing stones at each other is not going to help anybody.....just brings others into their war...... restraint means on all sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, fellow said: Quite bizarre how oil has fallen after this news. Were they pricing in something worse or was there some other economy news we missed? People are assuming that Israel has done just enough to demonstrate to Iran that it can hit where it likes, without making a big retaliation inevitable. This may be a minor victory in the short term. However it doesn't stop the constant attacks on Israel coming from Iranian proxies in Lebanon (and Israeli counter-strikes there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, winkie said: Oil is up...... Norway, Spain and Italy condemns, enough tit for tat.....time for restraint. This is daily Brent chart. Three-week low ✓ Cheap petrol... 🚗 says yumm yumm... You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, anonguest said: israel endlessly rants over the garden fence how he wants to destroy you - and periodically lobs small missiles at your house and garden. Apart from occasional middle of the night foray into his garden to remove a pile of stones you have seen him accumulate, and which you know will imminently be used against your property, you ignore him. One day he walks up to you and punches you in the face. And you want to tell me that you would, at that point, still preach restraint? It is israel that is the troublemaker. 14 hours ago, anonguest said: Same excuse given all the time as a cover for Jew hate. Don't tell me all the vile bigots and loonies on pro-Palestine marches have no dislike of Jews. One example of a police officer. Doesn't takeaway that it's an israel problem and not Jewish. You're an anti-semite. You're pro genocide against Palestinians. Get some help please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumble bee Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Someone have to think hard to come with the idea 'deescalatory strike' utterance ... Israel's limited attack on Iran is a 'deescalatory strike' The small-scale strikes were not received well by the hard-right elements of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's War Cabinet, with Ben-Gvir himself deriding this morning's explosions in Iran as 'feeble'. This cannot now truly be a return to business as usual and I would suggest that honour is far from satisfied on both sides at the moment, sentiments expressed by Justin Crump. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13327041/Israels-limited-attack-Iran-deescalatory-strike-allows-countries-step-saving-face-experts-believe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: One example of a police officer. Doesn't takeaway that it's an israel problem and not Jewish. Yeah. Right. Sure. It's nothing to do with Jews per se. All those people marching in the street every weekend just love Jews. Like this bunch of pro-Palestinian trade union snowflake morons, choosing to boycott handling Israeli post because they're likely 'triggered' at the thought of handling mail that has been in the hands of Jews, are probably telling themselves the same "We're not against Jews. Just Zionists" nonsense. Not China. Not Russia. Not Nigeria, Pakistan, the DRC, Sudan, Syria, Libya or Afghanistan..... Just boycotting post from the Jewish state. Israel. If you still think these people aren't being driven by Jew hate you're as stupid as they are. 2 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: You're an anti-semite. And you're a demented lunatic. I'm anti-stupidity. Which puts you near the top of the list! 2 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: You're pro genocide against Palestinians. No. I'm pro-genociding those who commit genocide. Like those fine specimens from October 7th. 2 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: Get some help please. Pot. Kettle. Black. Edited April 19 by anonguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpg50000 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Stewy said: This is daily Brent chart. Three-week low ✓ Cheap petrol... 🚗 says yumm yumm... You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts 😉 That's funny coming from the guy who claims we are in NOflation territory and heading for deflation, given petrol and diesel have increased by about 4p a litre in the last 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: 4 hours ago, anonguest said: ... endlessly rants over the garden fence how he wants to destroy you..... It is israel that is the troublemaker. You're are so full of sh*t it is unbelievable! PLEASE do tell us all here when was the last time Israel publicly declared that it was its standing policy/aim to destroy one of its neighbouring countries. Or ANY country for that matter. Edited April 19 by anonguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, bumble bee said: Someone have to think hard to come with the idea 'deescalatory strike' utterance ... Israel's limited attack on Iran is a 'deescalatory strike' The small-scale strikes were not received well by the hard-right elements of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's War Cabinet, with Ben-Gvir himself deriding this morning's explosions in Iran as 'feeble'. This cannot now truly be a return to business as usual and I would suggest that honour is far from satisfied on both sides at the moment, sentiments expressed by Justin Crump. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13327041/Israels-limited-attack-Iran-deescalatory-strike-allows-countries-step-saving-face-experts-believe.html Pure desperation.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maghull Mike Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 £ under attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Roady Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Maghull Mike said: £ under attack? gold price would indicate so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The Pound has no intrinsic value, just like the Dollar and Euro. All bent fiat currencies aboard a slow boat to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maghull Mike Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 51 minutes ago, Social Justice League said: The Pound has no intrinsic value, just like the Dollar and Euro. All bent fiat currencies aboard a slow boat to hell. I sense the £ might be getting there quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.steve Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: It is israel that is the troublemaker. It might be... but you've been rather vague about what you mean by "troublemaker". I don't think being a troublemaker is necessarily unethical, or illegal, or improper. One creates trouble when one stands for strongly held beliefs. Many troublemakers might hold what we think are distasteful beliefs... but - for example - if troublemaking is acting counter to others' diplomatic objectives - it is difficult to condemn it. In context, it's analogous to a playground conflict - where the justification is that the other party started it. In reality, it will be the 'troublemaker' who suffers the consequences of any intervention... and it will be those who intervene who will assign blame to parties. If America was the intervening party, they may have superficially rebuked Israel - but they also stated that America's support in Israel's defence is "unconditional" - so, from that perspective, Iran must be deemed the "troublemaker". I'm extremely unclear about who pulls the strings in Israel... but... whoever they are, and whatever it is that they want... they've got considerable influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The response from Iran seems even more muted than the response on this thread? Did Israel deliberately miss their targets as a deescalarory warning shot to show what they could have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 hours ago, Trampa501 said: People are assuming that Israel has done just enough to demonstrate to Iran that it can hit where it likes, without making a big retaliation inevitable. This may be a minor victory in the short term. However it doesn't stop the constant attacks on Israel coming from Iranian proxies in Lebanon (and Israeli counter-strikes there). The Israelis are proving they can hit Iranian sites inc the best defended at will. Isfahan is home to Iran's nuclear facilities and F-14 fleet so extremely important. This whole saga has been about Israel saying if the proxies kick-off too much we are prepared to make it direct to Iran. This is because Israel does not want a war in Gaza and Lebanon with Syrian factions & Houthis chucking in strikes too. Iran has managed to create a boxing in strategy around Israel with proxy forces. Ironically the Houthis are demanding UN food aid at the same time as attacking shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Israel is limp wristed without America's 'blessing'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donadoni Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Now they are bombing Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, A.steve said: I'm extremely unclear about who pulls the strings in Israel... but... whoever they are, and whatever it is that they want... they've got considerable influence. The people do. It's a democracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumble bee Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 hours ago, donadoni said: Now they are bombing Iraq. As a consequence of the United States-led invasion "under the code-name Operation Iraqi Freedom" Iraq in this day and age is pretty much defenceless. For that reason I consider this bombing a nasty piece of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, donadoni said: Now they are bombing Iraq. "After the Iraq blast, an Israeli official told CNN that it was not involved." https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/19/middleeast/iraq-explosion-military-base-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonguest Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, bumble bee said: As a consequence of the United States-led invasion "under the code-name Operation Iraqi Freedom" Iraq in this day and age is pretty much defenceless. For that reason I consider this bombing a nasty piece of work. As opposed to the nasty pieces of work who were the targets? What do you think this is? Some sort of game of cricket?! "Oh. How frightfully unsporting of you to whallop those poor people whilst their guard was down..." You think these lovely people would stop to accord you the same decency? Grow up! Edited April 20 by anonguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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