Btl Scum Regrouping And On The Offensive. -- Merged

[Pop321]

9 hours ago, Si1 said:

Rental increases are very low which, combined with s24 etc, will push private landlords out of the market and lead to less houses

So lower rents is bad for renters. Err, obviously

Knock yourselves out

https://www.lettingagenttoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2018/11/warning--landlords-will-quit-as-rent-stagnation-squeezes-profits

Spot on ? And this is why I love this forum. 

I would liken this article to arguing that energy companies should charge more ergo more profit therefore more suppliers therefore better for everyone. (Well apart from those paying the bills of course) 

Hey. I guess we all feel a bit entitled in some ways and at some time. But this S24 b1tching is too much and go on far too long.....the only solace is the more it goes on the less empathy anyone will have with LLs and that will give power for appetite for further changes. 

[spyguy]

13 hours ago, oatbake said:

LMAO, that's brilliant ?

Last time I checked "landlord" wasn't a protected characteristic under the Equality Act...

Dont give them ideas!

'Using advanced DNA analysis the NLA has found out that LL share more DNA with with Hyenas and Crocodiles than with their fellow human beings ....'

 

 

[BorrowToLeech]

14 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Strong entry for the "Most Wrong Things In One Paragraph" competition on this demented thread.

Imagine if you replaced ‘landlords’ with ‘armed robbers’.  That’d definitely be racist.  Imagine hating someone just because they do armed robberies.

Imagine if you replaced ‘landlords’ with ‘fraudsters’.  Again, clearly racist.  Shouldn’t judge people for their lifestyle choices.

Imagine if you replaced ‘landlords’ with ‘racists’.  Prejudice against racists is probably the worst kind of racism.

****** he’s got us bang to rights. It follows. From logic. 

Edited November 24, 2018 by BorrowToLeech

[Man of Kent]

He seems nice, doesn't he? 

[Si1]

30 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

He seems nice, doesn't he? 

It does make you wonder why people are so shocked that Jeremy Corbyn has become popular with the young.

[iamnumerate]

2 minutes ago, Si1 said:

It does make you wonder why people are so shocked that Jeremy Corbyn has become popular with the young.

I don't like Corbyn but I can understand why he might get in.  Of course part of the state of affairs is because of Labour.  If I were paranoid, I would wonder if Corbyn and Blair had a secret deal :-

Tony "I will get in and screw up the young, then you can get real socialism in, that is the only way it will ever get elected, things are too good under the Tories now for us."

Corbyn "But won't the Tories improve things?"

Tony "No they are so stupid that to fix the mess I will make they will punish the young".

Corbyn "Of course they are - you are a genius".

[Si1]

5 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

I don't like Corbyn but I can understand why he might get in.  Of course part of the state of affairs is because of Labour.  If I were paranoid, I would wonder if Corbyn and Blair had a secret deal :-

Tony "I will get in and screw up the young, then you can get real socialism in, that is the only way it will ever get elected, things are too good under the Tories now for us."

Corbyn "But won't the Tories improve things?"

Tony "No they are so stupid that to fix the mess I will make they will punish the young".

Corbyn "Of course they are - you are a genius".

Haha maybe.

But we have a two party system which means that you can expect utterly different party regimes to prosper to reflect political realities, within the same party. I honestly don't associate Corbyn with Blair, any more than I associate Thatcher with Heath.

[iamnumerate]

Just now, Si1 said:

Haha maybe.

But we have a two party system which means that you can expect utterly different party regimes to prosper to reflect political realities, within the same party. I honestly don't associate Corbyn with Blair, any more than I associate Thatcher with Heath.

But Blair and Corbyn did believe the same thing once, I don't think Thatcher and Heath were ever that similar (could be wrong)

[iamnumerate]

PS I don't really think that such a conspiracy exists, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

[Man of Kent]

Snowflake.

[Lavalas]

Here’s Larry on Radio 4 You and Yours...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001b8s

9mins 40secs

Oh my days 

?

[Exiled Canadian]

10 minutes ago, Lavalas said:

Here’s Larry on Radio 4 You and Yours...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001b8s

9mins 40secs

Oh my days 

?

I can't listen at work.........how bad was it?

[Lavalas]

19 minutes ago, Exiled Canadian said:

I can't listen at work.........how bad was it?

The interviewer had clearly done a little homework as the first question was how many members do you have, and obviously he avoided that one. Then he was asked if he’s really representing members views or just himself, to which he claimed he has very little residential property. Then he tried to talk about Grenfell/Shelter so had to be stopped, following which he tried to talk about the whole Shelter/Bond thing so she just cut him off.

[Exiled Canadian]

2 minutes ago, Lavalas said:

The interviewer had clearly done a little homework as the first question was how many members do you have, and obviously he avoided that one. Then he was asked if he’s really representing members views or just himself, to which he claimed he has very little residential property. Then he tried to talk about Grenfell/Shelter so had to be stopped, following which he tried to talk about the whole Shelter/Bond thing so she just cut him off.

Thanks - I'll listen at home.

Shame he didn't get the demonstrate to the whole country how entitled and batshit crazy him and his mates are.

I suspect that we've now reached "Peak Larry". 

[Man of Kent]

He'll have lost most of the listeners' sympathy the moment he refused to answer the question about how many members he had. All he could say was that one day he got fifty new members, and then they came back to say the NLA had 40,000 members. He just sounds like a knob.

[2buyornot2buy]

Didn't realise he was a fellow Irishman.

[oatbake]

4 hours ago, Lavalas said:

Here’s Larry on Radio 4 You and Yours...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001b8s

9mins 40secs

Oh my days 

?

LMAO that's brilliant. Good find.

[mrtickle]

Great for the link. We need to get a copy of that audio; it won't be available in iplayer for ever.

The way she cut him off at the end was superb. "Why aren't they here to talk about my plans for bonds..." he shouts desperately...

Reminds me of the time genius comedian Chris Morris appeared on the awful debate programme presented by John Stapleton. Who, having white hair, had a "makeover" to present that programme completely with title sequence portraying him as a real young go-getter.

Just as he was being cut off at the end, Chris - knowing he only had one more chance - shouted "what's happened to your hair? Why isn't it white any more?" LOL.

clip is here:

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by mrtickle

[Dorkins]

On 24/11/2018 at 19:19, Man of Kent said:

He seems nice, doesn't he? 

Seems like a great way to give yourself a void. How many people go looking for a new rental in December?

[mrtickle]

2 hours ago, Dorkins said:

Seems like a great way to give yourself a void. How many people go looking for a new rental in December?

He doesn't care. His top priority is to be a vile landlord to his current tenant who have done something to "annoy" him - such as to ask him to do his legal statutory duties. He doesn't care about the consequences, he just wants to ruin a whole family's Xmas to punish them.

[Dorkins]

1 minute ago, mrtickle said:

He doesn't care. His top priority is to be a vile landlord to his current tenant who have done something to "annoy" him - such as to ask him to do his legal statutory duties. He doesn't care about the consequences, he just wants to ruin a whole family's Xmas to punish them.

It's that kind of abuse of power by landlords that will eventually result in the power being taken away by politicians - either the properties themselves through taxation, no-fault evictions through new tenancy laws, or both.

[rantnrave]

Power shifts to tenants as rent reductions hit record high

https://www.propertyindustryeye.com/power-shifts-to-tenants-as-rent-reductions-hit-record-high/

The number of tenants negotiating rent reductions hit a record high last month, say letting agents.

ARLA Propertymark’s October Private Rented Sector (PRS) Report showed that the number of tenants successfully negotiating rent reductions jumped from 2% in September to 3.7% in October.

This is the highest figure since the trade body started recording the data in 2015.

The number of tenants experiencing rent increases fell for the second month running in October, with 24% of the 217 agents who responded to the poll reporting that landlords increased rents, compared with 31% in September and 40% in August.

The supply of available properties hit a new high, rising from 194 in September to 198 in October.

This is the highest figure seen since December 2017, when supply stood at 200 and is up 9% annually.

Demand also increased during October, with the number of tenants registered per branch rising to 71 on average, compared with 63 in September.

David Cox, chief executive of ARLA Propertymark, said: “Last month’s findings indicate that power in the rental market could be shifting towards tenants, with a record number negotiating rent reductions, and less landlords hiking rent costs.

“However, it’s more likely that this is indicative of the time of year, and come the new year, we’ll see rent prices starting to creep up again.

“There’s no real way of avoiding it unfortunately: with landlords facing continued regulatory change, increasing costs will be passed on to tenants.

“Those who don’t pass the costs on will eventually have to exit the market, which will increase competition and boost prices. It’s the ultimate ‘lose, lose’ situation.”

[oatbake]

4 hours ago, rantnrave said:

Power shifts to tenants as rent reductions hit record high

https://www.propertyindustryeye.com/power-shifts-to-tenants-as-rent-reductions-hit-record-high/

The number of tenants negotiating rent reductions hit a record high last month, say letting agents.

ARLA Propertymark’s October Private Rented Sector (PRS) Report showed that the number of tenants successfully negotiating rent reductions jumped from 2% in September to 3.7% in October.

This is the highest figure since the trade body started recording the data in 2015.

The number of tenants experiencing rent increases fell for the second month running in October, with 24% of the 217 agents who responded to the poll reporting that landlords increased rents, compared with 31% in September and 40% in August.

The supply of available properties hit a new high, rising from 194 in September to 198 in October.

This is the highest figure seen since December 2017, when supply stood at 200 and is up 9% annually.

Demand also increased during October, with the number of tenants registered per branch rising to 71 on average, compared with 63 in September.

David Cox, chief executive of ARLA Propertymark, said: “Last month’s findings indicate that power in the rental market could be shifting towards tenants, with a record number negotiating rent reductions, and less landlords hiking rent costs.

“However, it’s more likely that this is indicative of the time of year, and come the new year, we’ll see rent prices starting to creep up again.

“There’s no real way of avoiding it unfortunately: with landlords facing continued regulatory change, increasing costs will be passed on to tenants.

“Those who don’t pass the costs on will eventually have to exit the market, which will increase competition and boost prices. It’s the ultimate ‘lose, lose’ situation.”

Good find. I'll look forward to that being posted on the ATTT page... Sounds like further confirmation that S24 is, as suspected, a landlord tax rather than a tenant tax.

[Horridbloke]

On 28/11/2018 at 16:07, Man of Kent said:

He'll have lost most of the listeners' sympathy the moment he refused to answer the question about how many members he had. All he could say was that one day he got fifty new members, and then they came back to say the NLA had 40,000 members. He just sounds like a knob.

Seconded re him sounding like a knob, but it sounded like "fifteen new members" to me. It's so ridiculous I can believe it's actually Chris Morris.

I expect somebody has ripped the episode for prosperity. ?

[mrtickle]

14 hours ago, rantnrave said:

Power shifts to tenants as rent reductions hit record high

https://www.propertyindustryeye.com/power-shifts-to-tenants-as-rent-reductions-hit-record-high/

[...]

David Cox, chief executive of ARLA Propertymark, said: “Last month’s findings indicate that power in the rental market could be shifting towards tenants, with a record number negotiating rent reductions, and less landlords hiking rent costs.

“However, it’s more likely that this is indicative of the time of year, and come the new year, we’ll see rent prices starting to creep up again.

“There’s no real way of avoiding it unfortunately: with landlords facing continued regulatory change, increasing costs will be passed on to tenants.

“Those who don’t pass the costs on will eventually have to exit the market, which will increase competition and boost prices. It’s the ultimate ‘lose, lose’ situation.”

David, dear boy! How thick are you? Increasing costs won't be passed onto tenants since the local market sets rents not landlord's costs. And that boring old lie about fewer landlords = increased competition and boosted prices. No. That's the "houses will vanish into thin air" argument.