jammo Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Impeachment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europbaron Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Even if all these "mistakes" were not deliberate fraud, does it not stand to reason that people who make so many errors are simply not capable of representing the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 A few days ago I wanted sackings. Now I want jailings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammo Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 A few days ago I wanted sackings. Now I want jailings. Unfortunatley that is never going to happen. They are actually above the law (a bit like Jonathan Ross), and if they're not, they'll simple write a new law - one for them. Complain all you like, it goes on the deaf ears of the equally corrupted. The whole system/axis of government would need to be dissolved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I was wondering how the speccy bloke was getting on. Any news start a thread pls. Big fanfair that one was, load of old poo. Just watched that vid. The PM just did say the £1 billion bill was going to be used to 'take unsold properties off the market' didn't he? Fantastic, after they forced expensive housing on the nurth by demolishing tens of thousands of perfectly good homes at a cost £2 billion, looks like they are going to do the same again to try and avoid the market dropping too far. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 How well I remember Reality Bear's prophecy, the "I Claudius" quote: "Let all the poisons that dwell in the mud, hatch out" And ooh, look: They ARE doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Pretty basic. But hey "perfectly adequate" Just been on bbc tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...eron-Curbs.html A number privately complained to executive members of the party’s back-bench 1922 Committee about the instruction.They feared that they were being penalised because of the controversy over some MPs claiming expenses for the upkeep of swimming pools and paying for items from exclusive interior design firms. The first public sign of dissent came from Ann Widdecombe, the former minister, who is standing down at the next general election. She said MPs outside London needed to run two homes and gave warning that it was important to ensure that people with a modest income were not driven out of Westminster. “If you are of modest means and your boiler blows up, somebody please tell me what to do,” she said. “Perhaps I will go to David Cameron for a loan.” Miss Widdecombe claimed £598.97 in December 2004 to “drain heating system and install new radiator in lounge” at her designated second home in Kent. She expressed concern at the way the party leaders were announcing their own measures for dealing with the issue before an official review of the system. “It is becoming a competition that 'My shirt is hairier than yours,’” she told the BBC. If being on £60k equals being on modest means what does it make those who take several years to earn that amount. Perhaps she would like to tell us what they are meant to do? Boiler Cover from £7 a month It would appear for those on modest means you could get boiler cover. Some of our MP's are clearly delusional, I'd love to get half what MP's get a year and I work for longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...eron-Curbs.htmlIf being on £60k equals being on modest means what does it make those who take several years to earn that amount. Perhaps she would like to tell us what they are meant to do? Boiler Cover from £7 a month It would appear for those on modest means you could get boiler cover. Some of our MP's are clearly delusional, I'd love to get half what MP's get a year and I work for longer. pigs trough scum throw them all out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methinkshe Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...eron-Curbs.htmlIf being on £60k equals being on modest means what does it make those who take several years to earn that amount. Perhaps she would like to tell us what they are meant to do? Boiler Cover from £7 a month It would appear for those on modest means you could get boiler cover. Some of our MP's are clearly delusional, I'd love to get half what MP's get a year and I work for longer. Widdecombe is giving the impression that she believes her salary is for pocket money and all the normal expenses associated with day to day living should be reclaimable as expenses - mortgage interest, council tax, utilities, maintenance and repairs, food, linen, furniture etc etc. - all the stuff that the rest of us have to pay for from salaries or, worse still, inadequate pensions. They claim they need a second home in London - fair enough - but it is not essential to the performance of their parliamentary duties that MPs OWN a second home with the attendant costs; why can't they rent? The landlord will then be reponsible for repairs and maintenance. Go figure, Ann Widdecombe, before you bleat about being of modest means and unable to afford boiler repairs. How the hec do you think pensioners manage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikejsudjek Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 You get boiler protection cover at about £9/month. Not a problem on 60k a year. Just goes to show how they need booting out for some real life living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajista Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Does Ms Widdecombe even need a boiler -she surely carries enough fuel stores to keep her warm anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the end is a bit nigher Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 At the root of the problem is having a second home. Remove that then this problem ceases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Answer: rent your 2nd pad in london, so it is all within your expenses and you can spare all your time to do MP stuff instead of speculating on properdie Ann Widdecombe - f*ck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singlemalt Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Some people need just half a length of rope and they hang themselves! Comments like this belie just how little parity these people share with the ordinary UK citizen. Pug faced trout :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limpet Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Does Ms Widdecombe even need a boiler -she surely carries enough fuel stores to keep her warm anyway? She is the boiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righttoleech Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The £60K odd is the starting point........She's done quite a lot of tele harassing prostitutes and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Wasn't there an MP who tried to live on benefits (I'm going back 20 years maybe) and ended up eating cold beans and sitting in the dark. I'd like to see everyone of these greedy mps on benefits by the end of next week and not as an experiment. How do they think people on normal or low incomes manage? They need some serious time in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Wasn't there an MP who tried to live on benefits (I'm going back 20 years maybe) and ended up eating cold beans and sitting in the dark.I'd like to see everyone of these greedy mps on benefits by the end of next week and not as an experiment. How do they think people on normal or low incomes manage? They need some serious time in the real world. Benefits is too much... Put them on min wage and exclude them from social housing (like most of the population).... MPs in a HMO houseshare fighting over scraps... Edited May 14, 2009 by moosetea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legal_Landlord Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Pretty basic. But hey "perfectly adequate"Just been on bbc tv Hats off to him for his frugality and for not flipping London properties to make a fortune at the taxpayers expense. He still managed to claim £152,933 (219th) in total expenses in 07/08 including nearly £90k for staff expenses which included employing his wife in his constituency office. Edited May 14, 2009 by Legal_Landlord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hats off to him for his frugality and for not flipping London properties to make a fortune at the taxpayers expense.He still managed to claim £152,933 (219th) in total expenses in 07/08 including nearly £90k for staff expenses which included employing his wife in his constituency office. LOL Our two local MPs share offices and between them claim a fortune. I think once the dust settles on general expenses we need to start poking sharp sticks at who they employ and on how much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybil13 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...eron-Curbs.htmlIf being on £60k equals being on modest means what does it make those who take several years to earn that amount. Perhaps she would like to tell us what they are meant to do? Boiler Cover from £7 a month It would appear for those on modest means you could get boiler cover. Some of our MP's are clearly delusional, I'd love to get half what MP's get a year and I work for longer. I LOVE IT - "WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOUR BOILER BLOWS UP"? Quite what do you do. Now we all have to have condensing boilers and with all the new regulation you are looking at nearly £5000 for a new boiler . When you pay £5000 for your new boiler you will be told it will last about 8 years if you are lucky. Boiler insurance will cover you for breakdown but not for a new boiler. It is a Q I KEEP asking, where are people supposed to ge the money from to run a home these days. Pre - double glazing you had your windows painted, now you have to REPLACE them when the seal goes. Washing Machines have a life expectancy of 2 years! Unless you can afford that one (can't remember the name) that is supposed to last 20 . This is all just part of the same problem really isn't it, EVERYTHING has got SO expensive the past decade that at every level it seems not to be sustainable. But I think its a deeper issue for Widdecombe, she knows she is an old boiler fit to burst and wonders what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Washing Machines have a life expectancy of 2 years! Unless you can afford that one (can't remember the name) that is supposed to last 20 . There are 2 Miele and ISE 10 (which comes with a 10 yr guarantee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingCharles1st Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...eron-Curbs.htmlIf being on £60k equals being on modest means what does it make those who take several years to earn that amount. At 2007 levels, a 60K income = a 600K mortgage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cells Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 £60k is a lot of money….. not really if you live in London. Just to rent a decent place will set you back a minimum of £1,500 per month (2 bed flat in centralist area) and that really would be basic!! You looking at £2,000 per month to rent a 2 bed flat that isn’t falling down. So if MPs are paid £60k, after tax that might be £40k. Take away £24k to rent a 2 bed flat and your left with £16k to support yourself and your family. The simple answer is to increase MP pay to £60,000 plus £40,000 costs and nothing else. If you need to rent/buy a second home, you pay for it out of your £100k. If you need to pay for travel then you pay for it yourself. Very simple easy system. London MPs = £80k wage (£53,000 after tax) Non London = £100k wage (£65,000 after tax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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