steve99 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Which of those exactly would the Tories have done differently ? 6/ Brown allowed to take over unelected (The Tories wouldnt have had Brown) Otherwise little difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeholder Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Making Margaret Hodge the friend and protector of the Islington paedophiles minister for children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest barebear Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I’d add fiddling inflation figures to the list.Actually the smoking ban is a good thing. Preventing people from enforcing the ill effects of their chosen habit on those who don’t choose the same habit is the one good thing Labour have done. I like driving fast but I wouldn’t expect to be allowed to indulge myself on public roads to the detriment of the safety of others, so why should smokers be exempt from respecting others’ right to personal safety? If someone wants to pay to make themselves stink of sh*t, become ill and die early, then fine, just as long as they do it in a place where they’re the only one affected by it. Passive smoking is a myth. If it wasn't why didnt all the cats, dogs, budgies etc die of lung cancer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriousz Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 PFI deserves a dishonourable mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 12. Selling the gold. 13. David Kelly. Watching one man caught in the crossfire of some petty squabble between NuLabour and their chums in the Beeb. Witnessing the machinery of government turn against one man, and seeing unprincipled journalists sell out their sources. That day I finally realised our whole establishment was deeply sick and corrupt on unimaginable scale. When I saw this headline on Sunday I thought we'd finally seen an apology :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7640625.stm Sadly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Passive smoking is a myth.If it wasn't why didnt all the cats, dogs, budgies etc die of lung cancer ? or house flies or woodlice or moths and butterflies , cupid stunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Well erm, they wouldnt have allowed Quisling to take over unelected! Well erm they did exactly the same thing when they were in similar circumstances. And they were right because it is the correct constitutional thing to do. Really I despair. So many legit things to complain about and instead folk trot out the fake lines designed for the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrypirate Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I'm getting fed up of all this Labour bashing, partially culpable though they are.The Tories would have been at least as bad. They haven't caused a discussion on any of the above issues, and they supported the Iraq war. This seems to be the only reason people are against voting tories. No one can give me a sensible arguement or evidence for this. THere was one woman on the tv yesterday blaming Majors tory government for todays recession! Its unbelievable. She shouldnt be allowed to vote. Labour inherited an economy on the up from the Torys, and all they have done is hike taxes and then wasted it during the good times. She showed blatent moronic incompetance and misunderstanding regarding the economy. In fact it was rather Brown like - kinda head in the sand and ignoring the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yawnIHateSundays Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1/ The ilegal war in Iraq2/ No more boom and bust pledge 3/ Ramps and speed cameras 4/ No election when Blair went 5/ No EU referendum 6/ Brown allowed to take over unelected 7/The smoking ban Whoops it was only supposed to be 5 but I couldn't stop. Is there anymore ? Or should the list be changed ? The doubling of council tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave New World Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Passive smoking is a myth.If it wasn't why didnt all the cats, dogs, budgies etc die of lung cancer ? About to point that out myself, no one ever quotes the overwhelming number of studies in passive smoking that have proved inconclusive, even in 2003 the London Assembly chucked out plans aimed at stopping passive smoking as being unlinked to any sound findings. But most mugs will believe anything in the government tells them. Surprised they haven't blamed smoking on the current problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrypirate Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I don't know which is worse... the sheep on here or the plebs. I think I'll go with plebs. Brownite. I suppose you blame Margret Thatcher for todays mess? Or is it John Major? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Isn't this a great post.Let's have a heated debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Browns removeable and now slightly stretched face covering and extensible lower mandible. This is indeed a visual crime. Nothing personal you understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Surprised they haven't blamed smoking on the current problems. Because it's easier to blame Thatcher. Far more people smoke than are Thatcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantinghome Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1/ The ilegal war in Iraq2/ No more boom and bust pledge 3/ Ramps and speed cameras 4/ No election when Blair went 5/ No EU referendum 6/ Brown allowed to take over unelected 7/The smoking ban Whoops it was only supposed to be 5 but I couldn't stop. Is there anymore ? Or should the list be changed ? 2/ Would have been alright had he actually done so 3/ Annoying but frankly there's bigger stuff to worry about 4/ and 6/ are basically the same. I'm not too fussed to be honest - Major, Callaghan, Douglas-Home all became prime-minsters without calling an election. I would add: 7/ PFI 8/ Failure to get to grips with poor vocational and technical education 9/ Encouraging the debt binge rather than new productive industries 10/ Erosion of Civil Liberties 11/ Choosing to be a US satellite/poodle instead of equal partner with European nations of similar size and power to ourselves. 12/ Above all, a huge missed opportunity to undertake radical policy shifts. New Labour has mostly been tinkering with existing structures, rather than conducting a major and necessary overhaul. In 1997 the country was at peace, had a healthy economy and Labour had a huge majority. It was a golden opportunity, totally squandered. But hey, let's not be negative. The positives are: 1/ Peace in Northern Ireland. err... help me out here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Because it's easier to blame Thatcher. Far more people smoke than are Thatcher. But when Thatcher was in power wasn't she absolutely "SMOKIN" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Passive smoking is a myth.If it wasn't why didnt all the cats, dogs, budgies etc die of lung cancer ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2165722.stm http://www.vetclick.com/news/view_article.php?ArticleId=113 http://www.bloggingpet.com/entry/passive-s...-cancer-expert/ etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evictee Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 People who support the smoking ban deserve everything else they've got from that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Passive smoking is a myth.If it wasn't why didnt all the cats, dogs, budgies etc die of lung cancer ? If you want to inhale carcinogens as some kind of hobby, and use your children or animals in some kind of scientific experiment, then go right ahead. However, I fail to see why I should have to share your secondhand smoke, why people can't enjoy a meal in a restaurant without people puffing smoke at them, or why we have to stand in a pub or club with our eyes watering, and then come home stinking of fags, the smell of which has impregnated your clothes and hair. All because of some selfish minority that seem unwilling to bring about their premature death in private. Edited October 1, 2008 by sillybear2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormless Clown Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I don't know which is worse... the sheep on here or the plebs. I think I'll go with plebs. As you are a lefty I would think going with the plebs would be your natural instinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 But when Thatcher was in power wasn't she absolutely "SMOKIN" I can think of a lot of words to describe her, none of which are "SMOKIN'". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 People who support the smoking ban deserve everything else they've got from that list. Do you also support the right for people to urinate wherever they like? If you were standing in a bar would you mind if I walked up to you and started pissing on your shoes. Actually, don't answer that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Jean Charles de-Menezes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I can think of a lot of words to describe her, none of which are "SMOKIN'". As Clinton used to say, "close, but no cigar". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1) That they've made the idea of using the law on each other more acceptable than ever in the public mind. It's not a case of whether we should attack someone now, it's a case of who and how much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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