Mike Mustard Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 We have bought an old farmhouse near the German border with Switzerland for about £78k. Not in best condition but good enough to live in. Commuting distance from 3 decent sized towns. Have been doing language lessons and have enough savings to last about a year. We chucked in our jobs and are hoping it works out. We leave next week. The equivalent property in the UK would cost about £350k+ and we didn't want to get into big debt. On the continent HPI is about the same as wage inflation from what I can gather. I recommend considering taking a risk abroad and emmigrating. I am going to leave Britain for a while and free up some space for those who are more keen than me to contribute to this miracle economy. I expect HPI is incredibly damaging to the economy. When you explain the situation to people on the continent they cannot believe what is going on here. This hyperinflation has got out of control and I cannot see any way it can be sustained. I do expect a severe crash in the UK. Good luck to those of you who are hoping to buy. I'll log on from time to time to keep a track of what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest muttley Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Good luck to you, Mike!! I wish I could do the same. Do you have a job to go to? What about the language barrier? Edited June 24, 2006 by muttley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Mike, wish you well and good luck. Easy to dream about what you would like to do, better to stay awake and do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Don't Surf Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'd be long gone if it wasn't for my partner. I spent a good deal of the last 10 years working abroad (Portugal and Australia) and you can't even pretend to have the kind of standard of living I had on a part time salary over here. Spend a bit of time abroad and you will realise why this is called 'rip off Britain'. Vote with your feet, the slave ship is sinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'm looking at doing the same, going for a holiay next month to Malaysia to evaulate the place and see if their are any job opportunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistbear Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 It will be okay here after the crash. It has started you know, here is an even longer ODPM list for last quarter ending March 2006: Northumberland £149,225 -8.8% Cumbria £143,851 -1.6% Tyne And Wear £132,526 -0.3% Stockton-On-Tees £128,643 -5.0% Darlington £125,556 -5.6% Durham £114,329 -4.3% Redcar And Cleveland £109,289 -11.2% Middlesbrough £108,982 4.7% Hartlepool £98,770 -5.2% East Riding Of Yorkshire £154,431 -4.5% West Yorkshire £138,242 -1.1% South Yorkshire £126,326 -1.4% North Lincolnshire £122,869 -2.7% North East Lincolnshire £102,179 -1.9% Rutland £228,672 -7.7% Leicestershire £170,145 -3.5% Northamptonshire £158,537 -3.5% Lincolnshire £147,659 -1.9% Derbyshire £147,537 -3.5% Nottinghamshire £146,871 -2.0% City Of Derby £137,082 -0.3% Leicester £134,130 0.3% City Of Nottingham £119,797 -5.2% Worcestershire £184,936 -3.3% Warwickshire £184,860 -3.4% Shropshire £184,664 -3.1% Staffordshire £161,232 -0.1% West Midlands £146,903 0.3% Wrekin £140,819 1.2% Stoke-On-Trent £89,910 -5.6% Cheshire £185,036 -1.6% Warrington £156,929 -4.5% Greater Manchester £134,935 -2.1% Merseyside £132,854 0.3% Lancashire £128,806 -1.9% Halton £127,289 -5.3% Blackpool £119,112 2.8% Blackburn With Darwen £98,762 -2.1% Moray 101,031 -6.1% Clackmannanshire 100,282 -6.8% North Ayrshire 98,127 -1.9% North Lanarkshire 96,363 1.7% East Ayrshire 92,883 -10.3% Orkney Islands 88,463 -10.3% West Dunbartonshire 88,299 -7.4% Shetland Islands 83,663 4.4% Eilean Siar 75,640 -8.2% Edinburgh, City Of 176,526 1.1% East Renfrewshire 168,132 -8.8% East Dunbartonshire 160,331 -8.6% East Lothian 152,826 -7.5% Stirling 144,367 -4.0% Midlothian 134,238 -0.5% Scottish Borders 130,622 -7.9% Aberdeenshire 127,195 -3.4% Highland 125,711 -3.4% Glasgow City 124,370 -0.6% Argyll And Bute 119,923 -5.9% Isle Of Anglesey £145,033 -12.2% Newport £144,790 -5.0% Flintshire £142,754 -4.8% Denbighshire £140,981 -1.9% Swansea £139,153 -1.1% Carmarthenshire £137,252 0.1% Bridgend £133,572 -1.7% Torfaen £120,546 -0.4% Caerphilly £115,784 -1.5% Neath Port Talbot £102,936 -2.6% Rhondda Cynon Taff £93,453 -2.7% Merthyr Tydfil £89,920 -4.8% Blaenau Gwent £82,491 -7.4 Dorset £226,010 -0.5% Devon £212,600 -0.3% Wiltshire £209,024 -3.5% Cornwall £203,006 -2.5% Bournemouth £202,293 2.2% Gloucestershire £201,799 -0.5% North Somerset £185,780 -4.6% Somerset £183,850 -1.5% South Gloucestershire £182,959 -2.5% City Of Bristol £178,116 0.6% -0.9% Torbay £174,208 -2.0% Swindon £155,868 -2.3% Brighton And Hove £222,241 0.6% West Sussex £221,415 -2.2% Essex £212,460 -0.9% Kent £206,628 -0.4% East Sussex £198,541 -3.0% Reading £196,094 -2.0% Isle Of Wight £181,138 -0.6% Milton Keynes £175,337 -0.6% Thurrock £169,523 -0.6% -1.5% Southampton £161,716 -1.3% Portsmouth £154,803 0.6% Medway £154,231 -2.1% City Of London £313,388 -4.5% Hammersmith And Fulham £1,401,250 -17.9% Wandsworth £1,230,830 -11.2% Lewisham £351,863 -22.3% Waltham Forest £317,750 -18.7% -28.1% 6 Newham £226,026 -22.2% Enfield £568,411 -13.7% -18.6% Chelsea £2,020,714 -18.2% City Of Westminster £1,819,466 -20.2% Camden £1,224,703 -6.5% Islington £519,102 -37.1% Hackney £420,577 -15.3% Harrow £538,874 -9.6% -13.9% Lambeth £527,750 -2.8% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I have only been to Malaysia as a tourist, but believe it would be a good place to go and work. Almost everyone speaks English because of the need for the different ethnic groups to be able to speak to each other. The shopping malls in Kuala Lumpur put everything in London to shame. This place has to be seen to be believed, http://www.timessquarekl.com/home.html Times Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve99 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Malaysia is not a place to go and work, maybe not a bad place to go and live cheaply if you can get interest or rent money, A Malaysian friend of mine recently went back there, he is an IT professional with 15yrs expreience and cannot get a job. There is a pecking order regarding who gets jobs, preference is based on race, religion and age, if you are a Muslim Malay under the age of 30 with a Malaysian degree you will win hands down, if not, you wont get employed unless you have major contacts in a businness, oh and the wages are pretty poor. Also as a foreigner you get to pay special prices for property, A local can buy a nice house for say 30k gpp whereas an import has to pay a minimum much higher than that (about 10yrs ago that was about 50K gbp) Besides all that not a bad place. My plan was to sell up and put the cash into the safest and highest interest rate account in Australia or NZ (higher than UK and less potential to fall in value) then live for a couple of years or so in SE Asia, this seems like a good idea to me as we have both lost our jobs at the same time and prospects dont look good, however the other half wont consider it cause house prices will double while we are away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistbear Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Thailand gets some good reviews. But what do you do when you start missing McVities biscuits, Fools & Horses, the village pub, long summer evenings in the garden without mosquitoes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Lad Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 We have bought an old farmhouse near the German border with Switzerland for about £78k. Not in best condition but good enough to live in. Commuting distance from 3 decent sized towns. Have been doing language lessons and have enough savings to last about a year. We chucked in our jobs and are hoping it works out. We leave next week. Good luck to you Mike, I really do not blame you at all. And you'd speak for thousands who are doing the same. The 'Miracle Economy' has been little more than a very divisive housing bubble, and I'm glad to see people taking real positive steps, in the face of adversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 It will be okay here after the crash. It has started you know, here is an even longer ODPM list for last quarter ending March 2006: Northumberland £149,225 -8.8% Cumbria £143,851 -1.6% Tyne And Wear £132,526 -0.3% Stockton-On-Tees £128,643 -5.0% Darlington £125,556 -5.6% Durham £114,329 -4.3% Redcar And Cleveland £109,289 -11.2% Middlesbrough £108,982 4.7% Hartlepool £98,770 -5.2% East Riding Of Yorkshire £154,431 -4.5% West Yorkshire £138,242 -1.1% South Yorkshire £126,326 -1.4% North Lincolnshire £122,869 -2.7% North East Lincolnshire £102,179 -1.9% Rutland £228,672 -7.7% Leicestershire £170,145 -3.5% Northamptonshire £158,537 -3.5% Lincolnshire £147,659 -1.9% Derbyshire £147,537 -3.5% Nottinghamshire £146,871 -2.0% City Of Derby £137,082 -0.3% Leicester £134,130 0.3% City Of Nottingham £119,797 -5.2% Worcestershire £184,936 -3.3% Warwickshire £184,860 -3.4% Shropshire £184,664 -3.1% Staffordshire £161,232 -0.1% West Midlands £146,903 0.3% Wrekin £140,819 1.2% Stoke-On-Trent £89,910 -5.6% Cheshire £185,036 -1.6% Warrington £156,929 -4.5% Greater Manchester £134,935 -2.1% Merseyside £132,854 0.3% Lancashire £128,806 -1.9% Halton £127,289 -5.3% Blackpool £119,112 2.8% Blackburn With Darwen £98,762 -2.1% Moray 101,031 -6.1% Clackmannanshire 100,282 -6.8% North Ayrshire 98,127 -1.9% North Lanarkshire 96,363 1.7% East Ayrshire 92,883 -10.3% Orkney Islands 88,463 -10.3% West Dunbartonshire 88,299 -7.4% Shetland Islands 83,663 4.4% Eilean Siar 75,640 -8.2% Edinburgh, City Of 176,526 1.1% East Renfrewshire 168,132 -8.8% East Dunbartonshire 160,331 -8.6% East Lothian 152,826 -7.5% Stirling 144,367 -4.0% Midlothian 134,238 -0.5% Scottish Borders 130,622 -7.9% Aberdeenshire 127,195 -3.4% Highland 125,711 -3.4% Glasgow City 124,370 -0.6% Argyll And Bute 119,923 -5.9% Isle Of Anglesey £145,033 -12.2% Newport £144,790 -5.0% Flintshire £142,754 -4.8% Denbighshire £140,981 -1.9% Swansea £139,153 -1.1% Carmarthenshire £137,252 0.1% Bridgend £133,572 -1.7% Torfaen £120,546 -0.4% Caerphilly £115,784 -1.5% Neath Port Talbot £102,936 -2.6% Rhondda Cynon Taff £93,453 -2.7% Merthyr Tydfil £89,920 -4.8% Blaenau Gwent £82,491 -7.4 Dorset £226,010 -0.5% Devon £212,600 -0.3% Wiltshire £209,024 -3.5% Cornwall £203,006 -2.5% Bournemouth £202,293 2.2% Gloucestershire £201,799 -0.5% North Somerset £185,780 -4.6% Somerset £183,850 -1.5% South Gloucestershire £182,959 -2.5% City Of Bristol £178,116 0.6% -0.9% Torbay £174,208 -2.0% Swindon £155,868 -2.3% Brighton And Hove £222,241 0.6% West Sussex £221,415 -2.2% Essex £212,460 -0.9% Kent £206,628 -0.4% East Sussex £198,541 -3.0% Reading £196,094 -2.0% Isle Of Wight £181,138 -0.6% Milton Keynes £175,337 -0.6% Thurrock £169,523 -0.6% -1.5% Southampton £161,716 -1.3% Portsmouth £154,803 0.6% Medway £154,231 -2.1% City Of London £313,388 -4.5% Hammersmith And Fulham £1,401,250 -17.9% Wandsworth £1,230,830 -11.2% Lewisham £351,863 -22.3% Waltham Forest £317,750 -18.7% -28.1% 6 Newham £226,026 -22.2% Enfield £568,411 -13.7% -18.6% Chelsea £2,020,714 -18.2% City Of Westminster £1,819,466 -20.2% Camden £1,224,703 -6.5% Islington £519,102 -37.1% Hackney £420,577 -15.3% Harrow £538,874 -9.6% -13.9% Lambeth £527,750 -2.8% I am no bull but these figures are out of date now. We know that places especially in the South have been going up since March 2006. The next proper drops will not be seen until the latter half of this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Good luck to you, indeed. I am planning to retire abroad (Cyprus) one day and have decided to buy some land to build on while I have the cash from my STR fund. I'll still have enough left to put a healthy deposit on somewhere over here when we hit the trough . Timing is perfect - I am getting married in 3 months (in Cyprus) and will stay there for a month or so to sort it all out. When we get back from our epic 3 month honeymoon we'll rent a new place and hopefully watch the crash unfold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immigrant Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Good luck to the Mustards. Let us know how you get on. There is nothing wrong with moving to another country if you think you can make a better life for yourself there. Edited June 24, 2006 by Immigrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mustard Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 Thanks for the support folks. I'll be some other country's "immigrant problem" now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bart of Darkness Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 When we get back from our epic 3 month honeymoon Now that's what I call a honeymoon. I'm not sure who needs wishing luck the most, you or Mike. In a sitruation like this, I wish you both luck equally in your new ventures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Darke Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 We have bought an old farmhouse near the German border with Switzerland for about £78k. Not in best condition but good enough to live in. Commuting distance from 3 decent sized towns. Have been doing language lessons and have enough savings to last about a year. We chucked in our jobs and are hoping it works out. We leave next week. The equivalent property in the UK would cost about £350k+ and we didn't want to get into big debt. On the continent HPI is about the same as wage inflation from what I can gather. I recommend considering taking a risk abroad and emmigrating. I am going to leave Britain for a while and free up some space for those who are more keen than me to contribute to this miracle economy. I expect HPI is incredibly damaging to the economy. When you explain the situation to people on the continent they cannot believe what is going on here. This hyperinflation has got out of control and I cannot see any way it can be sustained. I do expect a severe crash in the UK. Good luck to those of you who are hoping to buy. I'll log on from time to time to keep a track of what is going on. Is it near Freiburg am Breisgau? I was thinking of moving there myself. Really nice environment. What line of work were you in/are you moving to? Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 We have bought an old farmhouse near the German border with Switzerland for about £78k. Not in best condition but good enough to live in. Commuting distance from 3 decent sized towns. Have been doing language lessons and have enough savings to last about a year. We chucked in our jobs and are hoping it works out. We leave next week. The equivalent property in the UK would cost about £350k+ and we didn't want to get into big debt. On the continent HPI is about the same as wage inflation from what I can gather. I recommend considering taking a risk abroad and emmigrating. I am going to leave Britain for a while and free up some space for those who are more keen than me to contribute to this miracle economy. I expect HPI is incredibly damaging to the economy. When you explain the situation to people on the continent they cannot believe what is going on here. This hyperinflation has got out of control and I cannot see any way it can be sustained. I do expect a severe crash in the UK. Good luck to those of you who are hoping to buy. I'll log on from time to time to keep a track of what is going on. Is it near Freiburg am Breisgau? I was thinking of moving there myself. Really nice environment. What line of work were you in/are you moving to? Good luck. We have bought an old farmhouse near the German border with Switzerland for about £78k. Not in best condition but good enough to live in. Commuting distance from 3 decent sized towns. Have been doing language lessons and have enough savings to last about a year. We chucked in our jobs and are hoping it works out. We leave next week. The equivalent property in the UK would cost about £350k+ and we didn't want to get into big debt. On the continent HPI is about the same as wage inflation from what I can gather. I recommend considering taking a risk abroad and emmigrating. I am going to leave Britain for a while and free up some space for those who are more keen than me to contribute to this miracle economy. I expect HPI is incredibly damaging to the economy. When you explain the situation to people on the continent they cannot believe what is going on here. This hyperinflation has got out of control and I cannot see any way it can be sustained. I do expect a severe crash in the UK. Good luck to those of you who are hoping to buy. I'll log on from time to time to keep a track of what is going on. Sounds like you are moving to my area! You won't regret it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I sometimes imagine a couple of million well educated or skilled Brits dumping Britain and setting up in a Country that appreciates and respects us, let the Chavs, low life and ponces try and feed themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 'The other man's grass is always greener' I will give you a max of 3 years and you will be back with a different mind set. By then you will really appreciate the country you have left! You will feel like an alien and this feeling will not leave you. Eventually you will long to be back amongst your own. Been there done that, got the tea shirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayser Soze Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Bye then! Please leave the UK for those that care about it and shut the door on the way out. Quitter!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyMe Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Bye then! Please leave the UK for those that care about it and shut the door on the way out. Quitter!!!! Better to quit when you can then quit when you have to! Good luck Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should you sell Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Best of luck to you....... however.... I can speak from first hand experience, I have been living in the UK as an 'adopted country' for nearly seven years now, I still don't feel like this is home. Don't get me wrong, I love living here, I could move anywhere in the world at the drop of a hat if I wanted too but I coose to stay here, be careful of knocking the UK, this is a first rate country with a fantastic standard of living IF you are willing to put the effort in, of course it has it's problems but the grass isn't always greener on the other side! Then again maybe I am just blinkered and fortunate to be doing okay in the UK....... Oh yes... if you are very family orientated you are going to miss them TERRIBLY I hope all works out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Good luck on the move I've also moved to europe and Germany does look a good bet just now when it comes to house prices and now is a good to buy at the bottom. Germanys don't like debt and are hard workers, just the unions that have too much power just now Do make sure you have lots of options when it comes to gettting work. think i'll take a look at Bulgeria later this year but i have no plans to work their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_prisoner_is_opting_out Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Good luck, I hope you have a fabulous time. I've been in mainland europe now for nearly 7 years and for the most part I love it. I own a beautiful house which I wouldn't have a hope in hell of owning in the UK and I've built a life here with my horses and all my little luxuries which would be so out of reach back "home". No, I don't feel "at home" here completely, but then I never really felt at home in the UK either and I've always had wandering feet. I'm in no particular rush to get back to the UK and work my b*llocks off for some sh*tty one-bed flat in the south-east (if I'm lucky! ). I don't know how long I'll stay here or what I'll do next, but I do know that those who succeed at being expats are those who build their lives around what they build overseas and are NOT the ones who fly home once a fortnight bringing carrier bags of Tesco food with them the whole time and putting their lives on hold until they're "back home". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zag2me Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) I lived and worked in australia for a year, and it was great, but i certainly wouldnt emegrate forever! Edited June 26, 2006 by zag2me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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