IMHAL Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, MerchantNavy said: That still doesn't explain why Putin would want to get rid of him. He's done his job. Erm..Putin is not adverse to throwing people under a bus when it suits (or the odd balcony). Maybe you missed that? Also - Prezghorin has 'a lot he can talk about', stuff that would incriminate Putin, directly involve him. There is no such thing as 'doing your job and that's it' in the dirty business of war crimes. You'd have to be very naive to believe that. It's not a blue collar job behind a desk at the building society you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site remains ready for nuclear tests "The task set by the Russian president to prepare for nuclear tests will certainly be accomplished. The Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site has been kept in ready condition for the resumption of nuclear tests if such a need arises," he said. On February 8 that nuclear tests could be resumed at the Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site if such a need arose and a political decision was made. "A special program is in effect to maintain the testing site’s readiness," he explained. The Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site is maintained by the Russian Defense Ministry’s 12th Main Department. A total of 130 tests were carried out there between September 21, 1955, and October 24, 1990, including 88 atmospheric, three underwater and 39 underground tests. tass  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, rollover said: Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site remains ready for nuclear tests "The task set by the Russian president to prepare for nuclear tests will certainly be accomplished. The Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site has been kept in ready condition for the resumption of nuclear tests if such a need arises," he said. On February 8 that nuclear tests could be resumed at the Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site if such a need arose and a political decision was made. "A special program is in effect to maintain the testing site’s readiness," he explained. The Novaya Zemlya nuclear test site is maintained by the Russian Defense Ministry’s 12th Main Department. A total of 130 tests were carried out there between September 21, 1955, and October 24, 1990, including 88 atmospheric, three underwater and 39 underground tests. tass  More nuclear willy waving fro Putin I see. But putin is right to make the tests because he can't be certain that critical parts havn't been sold off on ebay...as is the way in 'mother Russia'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Hehe loads of ammo depos going up on fire at ranges thought to be beyond HIMARs range looks like GLSDBs have arrived, all of occupied Ukraine except for very south of Crimea is reachable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 9 hours ago, IMHAL said: More nuclear willy waving fro Putin I see. But putin is right to make the tests because he can't be certain that critical parts havn't been sold off on ebay...as is the way in 'mother Russia'. the problem now is most people left in Russia wouldn't have any technical knowledge.  That and the fact that equipment is rusted shut and missing parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, yelims said: Â Â Interesting to see the level of debate, seems they are just concerned about spin. Â Also interesting that there is open disagreement but also deeply troubled concern about appearances. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Yep one can actually stream Russian main channel Rosiya1  easily https://www.ontvtime.ru/live/russia1-tv.html There are other links on first page of google search Right now live they seem to be getting quite excited about Xis visit  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, yelims said: Yep one can actually stream Russian main channel Rosiya1  easily https://www.ontvtime.ru/live/russia1-tv.html There are other links on first page of google search Right now live they seem to be getting quite excited about Xis visit  Interesting stuff, Xi willing to be associated with a genocidal maniac.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 BBC our man in Moscow Steve reports   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHAL Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, yelims said: Yep one can actually stream Russian main channel Rosiya1  easily https://www.ontvtime.ru/live/russia1-tv.html There are other links on first page of google search Right now live they seem to be getting quite excited about Xis visit  The general concensus is that China wants this war to continue to exhaust both Russia and the West. China has everything to gain and nothing to lose, so long as it keeps it's hands reasonably clean. I'd be surprised if they strayed from lending moral support to encourage Russia to 'keep at it'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 15 hours ago, yelims said: So you can’t prove it because you invented ******** in a classic russian tradition while I can point higher on thread to you doing just that, excusing russian crimes speaking of crime What relevance does this have? Are you trying to justify bestiality? You really are a sick twisted individual. No wonder you were defending Azov Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, MerchantNavy said: What relevance does this have? Are you trying to justify bestiality? You really are a sick twisted individual. No wonder you were defending Azov Nazis. Put your spec on, clearly Belarus and Russia allow sex with animals, along with allowing many other unacceptable things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/22/russia-ukraine-war-latest-news-putin-biden-treaty-nato/ Russia unable to launch nukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said: What relevance does this have? Are you trying to justify bestiality? You really are a sick twisted individual. No wonder you were defending Azov Nazis. You keep inventing and attributing things to me in a true Russian troll style to cover up your continued excuse of these Peado Russian nazis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, satsuma said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/22/russia-ukraine-war-latest-news-putin-biden-treaty-nato/ Russia unable to launch nukes Yeh Putin can’t get it up 🤣 Would be a great tabloid headline https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/21/politics/russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-test   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, satsuma said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/22/russia-ukraine-war-latest-news-putin-biden-treaty-nato/ Russia unable to launch nukes Sounds like pure bs. Odd to name it after devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, yelims said: You keep inventing and attributing things to me in a true Russian troll style to cover up your continued excuse of these Peado Russian nazis You keep failing to understand, I don't care about either party. You on the other hand are defending Azov neo Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said: Sounds like pure bs. Odd to name it after devil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, MerchantNavy said: You keep failing to understand, I don't care about either party. You on the other hand are defending Azov neo Nazis. I thought they all got killed by Russians in Marioupol? How can one defend (you still not able to prove I done so by linking to relevant post) someone who is dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, yelims said: I thought they all got killed by Russians in Marioupol? How can one defend (you still not able to prove I done so by linking to relevant post) someone who is dead? Claimed by Russians whom we know have not been honest. Very similar Ukrainians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said: What relevance does this have? Are you trying to justify bestiality? You really are a sick twisted individual. No wonder you were defending Azov Nazis. If Russia is Serious about De-Nazification, it Should Start at Home | Royal United Services Institute https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/if-russia-serious-about-de-nazification-it-should-start-home  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerchantNavy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, jonb2 said: If Russia is Serious about De-Nazification, it Should Start at Home | Royal United Services Institute https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/if-russia-serious-about-de-nazification-it-should-start-home  You don't need to tell me, I know Russia has it's own problems.  Yelims, on the other hand, seems to think he can post his bs of everything Russian bad, everything Ukrainian good and then get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said: You don't need to tell me, I know Russia has it's own problems. Â Yelims, on the other hand, seems to think he can post his bs of everything Russian bad, everything Ukrainian good and then get away with it. Sure, it depends on your stance. It's very difficult to keep emotion out of it. I feel like Yelims a lot of the time as encountering the reported atrocities in fire-hose volume and in real time does something to the mind. Particularly if you have a lot of empathy. However, I see no equivalence for argument. Because: Russia started the war Putin is certainly a psychopath who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself - and most importantly is willing to kill anybody in his way The Kremlin is an enemy of the West I have seen no pictures of mass graves of Russian civilians The kidnapping of children is an old Nazi technique of ethnic cleansing The West has a free (ish) media making the likelihood of reporting being more objective compared to Russia's The old Soviet states are the most vocal in confining Russian aggression as they had decades under its boot Dictators like Putin are extremely dangerous once they get to the point of imperialism. You *could* say the same for the West, except it has far more constraints by nature of free speech and much more accountability compared to one man at the top . Which is why, in order to do anything he wants - he needs to brutally subjugate his subjects. The question we need to ask, and knowing appeasement has always resulted in more violence - is Putin as bad as Hitler? "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" Edited February 22, 2023 by jonb2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, MerchantNavy said: Sounds like pure bs. Odd to name it after devil. You see this a lot, West names weapons after biblical justice, Russia after satan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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