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1 hour ago, Flat Bear said:

Looks like Russia is on its knees.

Possibly. Russian soldiers were complaining recently about the stench from the piles of Ukrainian corpses near the front lines.

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23 minutes ago, MarkG said:

No, they're losing their lives hour by hour to defend child castration and butt sex.

Ukraine could have had a peace deal last year which would have been massively better than the situation today and would probably not have required ceding any territory other than Crimea. And few men on either side would have had to die for it.

They could have a peace deal today, but it would now also require giving up the Black Sea coast and Donbas. And after Merkel spilled the beans about the Minsk agreements, the Russians have little reason to trust anyone in the West or its proxies to keep to any agreement they make.

So, for the sake of child castration and butt sex, Ukraine will be destroyed.

Such is the fate of those who choose to fight as proxies for the Gay American Empire. Satan loves to destroy his minions.

Clearly London Pride, magic mushrooms and 15 cans of Stella have been having "butt sex" with your brain.

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Victoria Amelina, the writer, human rights campaigner and a war crimes investigator has died of her injuries.  She was with several other investigators and Colombian journalists when the Russians struck the pizza restaurant.

Any more claims it was a military target?

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7 hours ago, Up the spout said:

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😆😂😂😆😆😆 He's the gift that keeps on giving!

You have clearly misjudged the situation ...

Wagners aren’t going to Belarus to recuperate but to carry out a mission

A spokeswoman for Poland’s Border Guard says its patrols have faced more aggressive behaviour in the past two months as Poland bolsters security at the Belarusian border amid a rise in the number of migrants.

Meanwhile, Poland’s deputy Minister Coordinator of Special Services Stanislaw Zaryn told Reuters the transfer of Wagner Group mercenaries to Belarus is also a source of fear.

“It is still a matter of analysis and hypotheses whether the Wagner Group will engage in destabilising Poland and will also be active in coordinating the migration route,” Zaryn told Reuters.

“We assume the Wagners aren’t going to Belarus to recuperate but to carry out a mission. This mission could be aimed at Poland, but also against Lithuania or Ukraine,” he said.

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27 minutes ago, rollover said:

You have clearly misjudged the situation ...

Wagners aren’t going to Belarus to recuperate but to carry out a mission

A spokeswoman for Poland’s Border Guard says its patrols have faced more aggressive behaviour in the past two months as Poland bolsters security at the Belarusian border amid a rise in the number of migrants.

Meanwhile, Poland’s deputy Minister Coordinator of Special Services Stanislaw Zaryn told Reuters the transfer of Wagner Group mercenaries to Belarus is also a source of fear.

“It is still a matter of analysis and hypotheses whether the Wagner Group will engage in destabilising Poland and will also be active in coordinating the migration route,” Zaryn told Reuters.

“We assume the Wagners aren’t going to Belarus to recuperate but to carry out a mission. This mission could be aimed at Poland, but also against Lithuania or Ukraine,” he said.

aljazeera

Are you seriously trying to claim Prigozhin and the exiled Wagner forces marched on Moscow so they could be sent to Belarus... as opposed to just going to Belarus...

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10 hours ago, rollover said:

???

The implications go beyond events on the front line. Putin's biggest threats lie within his own borders.  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-nuclear-explosion-b2368250.html?page=4#post-1251926

Russia’s war is having “a corrosive effect” on the leadership of Vladimir Putin, said US Central Intelligence Agency director William Burns in the UK.

Referring to the mutiny by Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, Mr Burns said: “It is striking that Prigozhin preceded his actions with a scathing indictment of the Kremlin’s mendacious rationale for the invasion of Ukraine and of the Russian military leadership’s conduct of the war.”

The former US ambassador to Moscow was delivering a lecture to Britain’s Ditchley Foundation in Oxfordshire, England.

“The impact of those words and those actions will play out for some time - a vivid reminder of the corrosive effect of Putin’s war on his own society and his own regime,” he said.

“Disaffection with the war will continue to gnaw away at the Russian leadership,” Mr Burns said.

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If catching up on Times Radio or Joe Blogs is your source of news and analysis then your going to be significantly lacking in perspective and continually spun low detail flawed narratives. Not saying that any info source is particularly accurate of unbiased to some degree but you got to shop around.

 

Although biased, this one is focused on the counter offensive overview, ignoring the odd avatars, which might be of interest.

 

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1 hour ago, 70PC said:

The implications go beyond events on the front line. Putin's biggest threats lie within his own borders.  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-nuclear-explosion-b2368250.html?page=4#post-1251926

Russia’s war is having “a corrosive effect” on the leadership of Vladimir Putin, said US Central Intelligence Agency director William Burns in the UK.

Referring to the mutiny by Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, Mr Burns said: “It is striking that Prigozhin preceded his actions with a scathing indictment of the Kremlin’s mendacious rationale for the invasion of Ukraine and of the Russian military leadership’s conduct of the war.”

The former US ambassador to Moscow was delivering a lecture to Britain’s Ditchley Foundation in Oxfordshire, England.

“The impact of those words and those actions will play out for some time - a vivid reminder of the corrosive effect of Putin’s war on his own society and his own regime,” he said.

“Disaffection with the war will continue to gnaw away at the Russian leadership,” Mr Burns said.

The Russian rebel movement is apparently seeing an upsurge in soldiers and officers thinking they will get purged so turning to them for help / defection

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1 hour ago, Staffsknot said:

Are you seriously trying to claim Prigozhin and the exiled Wagner forces marched on Moscow so they could be sent to Belarus... as opposed to just going to Belarus...

Belarus is not their holidays destination ... here it is from another source ...

Poland to Send 500 Police to Bolster Security at Belarus Border 

Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to offer troops from the private military company the choice of relocating to Belarus has led to fears among eastern NATO members that their presence will cause greater instability in the region.

"It is still a matter of analysis and hypotheses whether the Wagner group will engage in destabilizing Poland and will also be active in coordinating the migration route," Zaryn told Reuters by phone.

"We assume the Wagners aren't going to Belarus to recuperate, but to carry out a mission. This mission could be aimed at Poland, but also against Lithuania or Ukraine," he added.

Poland said on Sunday it will send 500 police to shore up security at its border with Belarus. "Due to the tense situation on the border with Belarus I have decided to bolster our forces with 500 Polish police officers from preventive and counter-terrorism units," Minister of Interior Mariusz Kaminski wrote on his Twitter account.

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10 hours ago, pig said:

Clearly London Pride, magic mushrooms and 15 cans of Stella have been having "butt sex" with your brain.

Very good Pig - lovely picture.

But you didn't explain it was the London Pride march he was on, not the beer, which contributed to his mucky mindedness.

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1 hour ago, 70PC said:

The implications go beyond events on the front line. Putin's biggest threats lie within his own borders.  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-nuclear-explosion-b2368250.html?page=4#post-1251926

Russia’s war is having “a corrosive effect” on the leadership of Vladimir Putin, said US Central Intelligence Agency director William Burns in the UK.

Referring to the mutiny by Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, Mr Burns said: “It is striking that Prigozhin preceded his actions with a scathing indictment of the Kremlin’s mendacious rationale for the invasion of Ukraine and of the Russian military leadership’s conduct of the war.”

The former US ambassador to Moscow was delivering a lecture to Britain’s Ditchley Foundation in Oxfordshire, England.

“The impact of those words and those actions will play out for some time - a vivid reminder of the corrosive effect of Putin’s war on his own society and his own regime,” he said.

“Disaffection with the war will continue to gnaw away at the Russian leadership,” Mr Burns said.

The leadership of Vladimir Putin is solid as a rock ... regardless what CIA is saying about it or wishing for, isn't it?

 

According to Levada Center, the mutiny hasn’t as much as dented Vladimir Putin’s approval rating. Before the attempted coup, it had been 82 percent. On the day of the insurrection, it dipped to 79 percent, and went back up to 82 percent as the crisis dissolved.

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20 hours ago, Quiet Guy said:

World War II was not a proxy war against the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

Nor is this. It's Hitler's invasion of Poland replayed. Russian Rambo 2. The sequel.

Was WW2 a just war?

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7 minutes ago, jonb2 said:

Very good Pig - lovely picture.

But you didn't explain it was the London Pride march he was on, not the beer, which contributed to his mucky mindedness.

 Certainly the burden of Putins actions seems to be inciting a lot of “projection” in his supporters …

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21 minutes ago, pig said:

Lol I agree  hard sexplanations are required…

They are. Maybe involving a butterfly effect?

Maybe you can help on another matter?

I am wracking my brains on the full ingredients of a bakery item I saw a menu for. I know it included dill, dough, Benecol buttery and a lot of virgin olive oil.

Any ideas?

<sigh!>

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58 minutes ago, rollover said:

The leadership of Vladimir Putin is solid as a rock ... regardless what CIA is saying about it or wishing for, isn't it?

According to Levada Center, the mutiny hasn’t as much as dented Vladimir Putin’s approval rating. Before the attempted coup, it had been 82 percent. On the day of the insurrection, it dipped to 79 percent, and went back up to 82 percent as the crisis dissolved.

meduza

Approval ratings in an undemocratic country without a free press are fragile. Mr Putin arrested senior military leaders but not Progozhin himself. What does that say about his position? People are being sent to die in a war Putin failed to win. They have wives and mothers, a force to be reckoned with in Russia. His army is now stuck behind fields of landmines. The wealthy Russian clique are seeing their assets frozen and yachts impounded. Many in Russia have good reason to want Mr Putin gone. 

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1 hour ago, rollover said:

The leadership of Vladimir Putin is solid as a rock ... regardless what CIA is saying about it or wishing for, isn't it?

 

According to Levada Center, the mutiny hasn’t as much as dented Vladimir Putin’s approval rating. Before the attempted coup, it had been 82 percent. On the day of the insurrection, it dipped to 79 percent, and went back up to 82 percent as the crisis dissolved.

meduza

It was so solid that not a single Russian came out to support Putin during the coup 

instead we had videos of Russians cheering for the mutineers 

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