workingpoor Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-36836772 More than 500 people are facing redundancy after a leading Scottish construction firm went into administration. The Dunne Group faced "severe cash flow issues" and has ceased trading with "immediate effect", according to its administrators. They said the move would result in the immediate loss of 524 jobs across the group, which is based in Bathgate. Edited July 19, 2016 by workingpoor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Dunne gone bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
council dweller Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Dunne, Dunne , Dunne .......Dunne ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just had a quick look at some graphs. Scottish mortgage approvals only recovered to half their 2003 level by 2015 and look to be falling, the Scottish fertility rate is falling and their total population has also started to drop. If we then add a good sprinkling of lost jobs in the oil sector we can see the reason for 'cash flow problems' in the house building sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just had a quick look at some graphs. Scottish mortgage approvals only recovered to half their 2003 level by 2015 and look to be falling, the Scottish fertility rate is falling and their total population has also started to drop. If we then add a good sprinkling of lost jobs in the oil sector we can see the reason for 'cash flow problems' in the house building sector. It's all the fault of the Westminster Tories I tell you...... FREEDOM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Dun Dunne'ing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuywontbuy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just had a quick look at some graphs. Scottish mortgage approvals only recovered to half their 2003 level by 2015 and look to be falling, the Scottish fertility rate is falling and their total population has also started to drop. If we then add a good sprinkling of lost jobs in the oil sector we can see the reason for 'cash flow problems' in the house building sector. They never really experienced the levels of immigration England has. If they did, they might have a different take on the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 They never really experienced the levels of immigration England has. If they did, they might have a different take on the EU. London voted Remain. Is that what you meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 London voted Remain. Is that what you meant? Londonistan? Or Londongrad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Londonistan? Or Londongrad? The thing is, the biggest Leave areas in England were those with minimal immigration levels. So saying that Scotland would be more anti-EU with higher migration levels... doesn't quite add up. Isn't Glasgow quite metropolitan nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko2010 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Trampa what shite. Look at a map of recent UK immigration it looks identical to a Leave map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Trampa what shite. Look at a map of recent UK immigration it looks identical to a Leave map Not sure why you're using the shi-te word. Are you getting upset by the possibility I'm right? Areas with a large percentage of immigration (like London or even Leicester) tended to vote Remain. Areas with minimal migration levels, for example Castle Point, voted overwhelmingly Leave.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/revealed-the-most-eurosceptic-and-europhilic-areas-in-the-uk/ Castle Point, situated deep in the Ukip heartlands of Essex, is another predictably high Leave vote. The county hosts the eurosceptic party's only current MP - Douglas Carswell, just up the coast in Clacton. And Castle Point itself has the fifth lowest proportion of university educated residents in Britain - less than one in five. The immigrant population is actually only 3 percent here, low by both regional and national standards. Now it's true that some of the eastern rural areas felt that the number of EE migrant workers was too high... but that is barely bourne out by the figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 The Leave areas have the highest increase of immigration. When plzces likd Boston go from 0% to 15% migrant population in 0 years you can see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Bathgate...no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-36836772 More than 500 people are facing redundancy after a leading Scottish construction firm went into administration. The Dunne Group faced "severe cash flow issues" and has ceased trading with "immediate effect", according to its administrators. They said the move would result in the immediate loss of 524 jobs across the group, which is based in Bathgate. BATHGATE NE MOOOORE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Bathgate...no more Sh1t. Did not read to end of thread before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Surprised i got 2 pages out of this, Is that this Thread over and Dunne with then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf-02 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The thing is, the biggest Leave areas in England were those with minimal immigration levels. So saying that Scotland would be more anti-EU with higher migration levels... doesn't quite add up. Isn't Glasgow quite metropolitan nowadays? Looking at ONs stats shows very large levels of UK born people leaving London the past 15 years as immigration rose quickly. Mainly to surrounding counties like Kent. Those areas voted strongly to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Sh1t. Did not read to end of thread before posting. Just beat you to that :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Surprised i got 2 pages out of this, Is that this Thread over and Dunne with then? We do like a doom and gloom pun threat. I think we're done now tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuywontbuy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The thing is, the biggest Leave areas in England were those with minimal immigration levels. So saying that Scotland would be more anti-EU with higher migration levels... doesn't quite add up. Isn't Glasgow quite metropolitan nowadays? It's NIMBYism on a national scale. If you don't suffer a problem, you mock (or even hate) others who suffer the problem you don't have. Not just immigration, but quality of life - everything. Look at how the money flows to London, where most of the politicians are based (with work, 2nd homes). It is a divided nation because one region doesn't care for another's region's problem. There definitely exists immigration hotspots that suffer wage suppression, lack of schools, long GP waits, ghettoised societies....but if that isn't happening in YOUR area, all is fine with the WHOLE of the UK. There are many of these hotspots throughout the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It's NIMBYism on a national scale. If you don't suffer a problem, you mock (or even hate) others who suffer the problem you don't have. Not just immigration, but quality of life - everything. Look at how the money flows to London, where most of the politicians are based (with work, 2nd homes). It is a divided nation because one region doesn't care for another's region's problem. There definitely exists immigration hotspots that suffer wage suppression, lack of schools, long GP waits, ghettoised societies....but if that isn't happening in YOUR area, all is fine with the WHOLE of the UK. There are many of these hotspots throughout the UK.You are making a lot of assumptions here. Not least the fact there are plenty of people in London who subsist on wages that elsewhere in the country people wouldn't bother getting out of bed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't think it is as simple as that Trampa. For a start, outside regions where nationalist issues didn't dominate (ie excluding Scotland and Ireland), there aren't that many Remain areas. But where they are tends to be strongest in metropolitan liberal urban areas. In yorkshire we had York, Leeds, Harrogate. For the West Midlands there was only the relatively prosperous Warwick. In the north west, Manchester etc. And of course there was the large London vote. Many of these places like York, Harrogate, Warwick etc. are predominantly white English so that is not the deciding factor. I hasten to add though, Brexit was not caused by the disgruntled working class voter portrayed in the media. It was largely caused by the 58% of Tories voting out. You will note that London, Manchester, Leeds etc. are predominantly Labour strongholds. V good post. You make some very interesting points, much to consider. I'd put the split down to a modern version of town vs gown (nerdy urban young elite vs stuck in their ways townies), but the Tory voting ratio is an interesting factor. Also adds weight to the argument Cameron had no choice but to call a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 London voted Remain. Is that what you meant? London voted remain as they need the immigration to keep the house values at their insane levels...... It's the only place the economic scare mongering actually worked. As for Scotland, Nicola will be deploying her anti BREXIT veto any day now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I shall re-iterate this again. For Scotland in general - yes - we have not seen the level of immigration other areas of the UK have. HOWEVER for many areas of Scotland it's just the same. East of Edinburgh for example. Giving London a run for its money these days I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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