FANG Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I know London is being heavily advertised to this new wave of immigrants but do you think that the majority of them will stay in the capital or will they move to other cities on masse. Could this lead to civil unrest in some places, especially where public services are already under immense pressure to accommodate people. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531440/Sold-Flights-buses-Romanians-Bulgarians-head-UK.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 lets hope so. only so much crops to pick up here. Conversely, no end of banksters and meeja luvvies to pickpocket in london. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearwithasorehead Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I know London is being heavily advertised to this new wave of immigrants but do you think that the majority of them will stay in the capital or will they move to other cities on masse. Could this lead to civil unrest in some places, especially where public services are already under immense pressure to accommodate people. http://www.dailymail...ns-head-UK.html Don't believe everything you read in the Mail. Most Bulgarians and Romanians that want to come to the UK are already here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Don't believe everything you read in the Mail. Most Bulgarians and Romanians that want to come to the UK are already here. I keep hearing this. How do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awaytogo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I keep hearing this. How do you know? He does not know, the pure fact is the unskilled cannot come until the new year to work. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531440/Sold-Flights-buses-Romanians-Bulgarians-head-UK.html Edited December 31, 2013 by awaytogo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearwithasorehead Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 He does not know, the pure fact is the unskilled cannot come until the new year to work. http://www.dailymail...ns-head-UK.html Again, why the lazy and factually incorrect Mail crap. The fact is they have been here for years under Accession Rights as self-employed, even if, in reality they've been employees. All with the connivance of UK employment agencies. Unlike you, I have first-hand experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montesquieu Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Again, why the lazy and factually incorrect Mail crap. The fact is they have been here for years under Accession Rights as self-employed, even if, in reality they've been employees. All with the connivance of UK employment agencies. Unlike you, I have first-hand experience. Self-employed, as in exploiting the 'Big Issue' scam? I'm all for the educated and skilled from these countries making their way here but I do wonder what the balance will end up being .... Edited December 31, 2013 by montesquieu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearwithasorehead Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Self-employed, as in exploiting the 'Big Issue' scam? I'm all for the educated and skilled from these countries making their way here but I do wonder what the balance will end up being .... No, as chippies, and sparkies and builders. Loads of 'em in London already. Roma not the same as Romanians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Just close our borders, thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 No, as chippies, and sparkies and builders. Loads of 'em in London already. Roma not the same as Romanians. I worked with some Romanian welders for a while they we're highly skilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Just close our borders, thats all Agreed! ...and not let anyone out, either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If they are from the EU then we should allow them. Whether Romania and Bulgaria should be full members of the EU is another matter. IIRC, Britain has long been one of the most enthusiastic proponents of EU expansion towards the East. If the EU economies were roughly on a parallel footing, then there wouldn't be a problem with complete freedom of movement for labour and benefits. Unfortunately, since a bunch of underdeveloped Eastern Bloc countries came in (at Britain's behest) the system doesn't really work any more. And of course, Britain is screaming loudest about the situation that they have created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 ...and not let anyone out, either? Yes If they have means to support themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwin Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I know London is being heavily advertised to this new wave of immigrants but do you think that the majority of them will stay in the capital or will they move to other cities on masse. Could this lead to civil unrest in some places, especially where public services are already under immense pressure to accommodate people. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531440/Sold-Flights-buses-Romanians-Bulgarians-head-UK.html Unless Pret A Manger are hiring thousands of new recruits I don't see many staying in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Unless Pret A Manger are hiring thousands of new recruits I don't see many staying in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well rumours abound: THE 1ST LOT OF Romanians that's 1,800 are to be given temp accommodation on A specially adapted camp site in the Shaw area....they are expected to be in Shaw after 1.30am tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Just close our borders, thats all Yes, of course. And to capital and goods too. That'll teach 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) We,re coming back to Blighty later this week for a few days im starting to worry whether we`ll get in Edited December 31, 2013 by Maria Gorska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampa501 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yes, of course. And to capital and goods too. That'll teach 'em. We can subsist on fish n chips. just start eating toast and lard for brekkie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Near manchester? Yes where is shaw.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yes where is shaw.? Oldham. Where the gas explosion was that killed the little boy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Harold m Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Yes, of course. And to capital and goods too. That'll teach 'em. I am all for free trade areas and free movement however the issue some have is that with a welfare state in place we need to protect the wage levels of our unskilled otherwise there is no incentive to work . Letting skilled people in is 100% doesn't effect this. Allowing unskilled workers to compete for wages can cause knock on issues. We should welcome all people to live and work here ( I say this a ukip voter) but where is the protection for low earners who now have to compete . Don't get me started on the subsidy this will provide to housing benefit dependant landlords whilst pricing out median wage renters . Protecting our poorest workers is far more compassionate than any lefty ranting about daily mail etc but I suppose some people want cheaper cleaners and don't mind whom they exploit Edited December 31, 2013 by Sir Harold m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntu Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well rumours abound: THE 1ST LOT OF Romanians that's 1,800 are to be given temp accommodation on A specially adapted camp site in the Shaw area....they are expected to be in Shaw after 1.30am tonight sorry but why are they being given public assistance?, fine if they want to come but they should sort out their own accommodation; that's what my parents had to do when they emigrated here in 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Harold m Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 sorry but why are they being given public assistance?, fine if they want to come but they should sort out their own accommodation; that's what my parents had to do when they emigrated here in 60s. I'm opposed to the opening of borders but we also have a responsibility to look after people we've invited here , that's something I hope we don't lose about our National character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntu Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 They have the same rights as anyone in UK, it matters not if you have worked and paid taxes for the past 40 years or have just stepped off the boat from eastern europe. Full access to housing, education, health care, benefits etc just the same as you and me. Ask yourself, would you rather the poor and unemployed in eastern europe of UK. edit to add, you would have the same rights as any eastern european in their home country as well so it is all very fair!!! What access to public housing do i have here? None as a single man. As for same rights etc, as a Brit try that in France or Germany and let me know if you get treated the same as a local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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