Boom Boom Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/7400742/Sir-James-Dyson-plan-to-fill-UKs-engineering-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSumGame Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph...ing-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. Sir James said change had to start from school. "There is a serious shortage of science teachers," he said. Mwuahahahahaaha ha ha ! How many times have we had that argument? Not least on here? James, science can be a tough discipline. There is little money and few jobs in it - one or two exceptions, perhaps. NPML. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/7400742/Sir-James-Dyson-plan-to-fill-UKs-engineering-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. what about me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulu Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Sir James said change had to start from school. "There is a serious shortage of science teachers," he said. Mwuahahahahaaha ha ha ! How many times have we had that argument? Not least on here? James, science can be a tough discipline. There is little money and few jobs in it - one or two exceptions, perhaps. NPML. They are also harder than media studies so do not look so good on those all important school league tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abharrisson Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/7400742/Sir-James-Dyson-plan-to-fill-UKs-engineering-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. I think labelling him a crass hypocrite is a bit rich... he runs a business, why should he keep all those staff in the UK when the work could be done more cheaply abroad... he has I believe kept the higher end research jobs in the UK and his company is I think domiciled in the UK. Looking through his proposals I thought they made a good deal of sense. I particularly thought he had a point regarding the allocation of R and D budget abd govt support for new businesses. I do think his business presents a decent way forward whereby the high end work is kept in the UK while the basic work is outsourced to wherever its best suited.... he'd pretty soon not be employing any engineers in the UK afterall if he couldn't drive his cost of production down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Perhaps Dyson can recommend a firm that the graduate engineers can get a job with, say, manufacturing vaccum cleaners for example - oh dear Dyson doesn't make them here anymore ... and yet he is going to save UK manufacturing? Just a free advert for Dyson. The DT should be ashamed of themselves. At my last rented house my landlord left behind a Dyson. Went back to using my Hoover. The main gubbings would fall away from the handle with the slightest knock. Then there is no bag and you have to dispose of all the waste (a bag seems far cleaner to me) plus it looks crap as you can see all the dust in the drum as its transparent (tells you when its full I suppose). Really couldn't see the point. A really hyped product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/7400742/Sir-James-Dyson-plan-to-fill-UKs-engineering-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. Didn't he outsource production after he was refused planning permission to extend his factory in the UK? No idea whether this was a factor, or just an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Boom Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Didn't he outsource production after he was refused planning permission to extend his factory in the UK? No idea whether this was a factor, or just an excuse. No, he refused to manufacture in the UK unless we joined the Euro, the promptly moved production to Asia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damik Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.telegraph...ing-vacuum.html The guy that outsourced production of his overpriced vacuum cleaners now has all the answers to the woes of the UK's engineers. only British buy vacuum cleaners for £200 .... anybody else for £50 ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finallysold Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 how much money will he pay these engineers when they are ready. as an engineer, you cant earn much even with a lot of experience unless you move into management roles. you have all these managers who will expect you to come up with solutions as though it is the most trivial thing to do like placing a sales order. anyway, we recently replaced our dyson with a miele and what a difference. i mistakenly bought a dyson a few years ago and my OH complained every time he had to empty the cylinder with all the dust flying around. it is the biggest load of hype. the miele i bought was cheaper (on sale) and is more effective in vacuuming and more silent. i bought the dyson thinking it would be nice to save on buying bags, but that is a fallacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSumGame Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 only British buy vacuum cleaners for £200 .... anybody else for £50 ....... Gotta hand it to Dyson Inc. though. His expensive goods do sell. And have brand loyalty. You can get a vacuum cleaner at Asda for £15 or £20 - and we've got the Dyson XL Turbo DOHC here. what £250 or so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Didn't he outsource production after he was refused planning permission to extend his factory in the UK? No idea whether this was a factor, or just an excuse. That certainly rings a bell. If you want a decent hoover buy a, still british made, Henry hoover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyMe Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 how much money will he pay these engineers when they are ready. as an engineer, you cant earn much even with a lot of experience unless you move into management roles. you have all these managers who will expect you to come up with solutions as though it is the most trivial thing to do like placing a sales order. anyway, we recently replaced our dyson with a miele and what a difference. i mistakenly bought a dyson a few years ago and my OH complained every time he had to empty the cylinder with all the dust flying around. it is the biggest load of hype. the miele i bought was cheaper (on sale) and is more effective in vacuuming and more silent. i bought the dyson thinking it would be nice to save on buying bags, but that is a fallacy. Wise choice. Coming up to ten years with one, runs and works like new. Not a split in the hose, stainless steel attachments look like new. Keep the bags emptied/replaced regularly the good quality motor insode will probably only give up if it gets severely overheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Crass hypocrisy? That would be if he'd left while saying, "the UK rocks" or if he'd stayed while saying, "the UK sucks". What he's actually done is to leave, and then to make some suggestions (having been asked to do so) about how to make the UK more welcoming for similar wealth creators in future. Seems reasonable to me. Exactly the sort of things we need to be thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I await the obit. for a man with an obsession over mediocre bagless cleaners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headrow Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 . i mistakenly bought a dyson a few years ago and my OH complained every time he had to empty the cylinder with all the dust flying around. i Ever thought of emptying it outside in that fresh air stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Strange how Miele still make their products in Germany, but Dyson has to outsource to Malaysia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 The only vacuum we have is my girlfriend's Dyson. My god, what a piece of ugly, over-designed crap. The bit at the top of the handle the design affords you to hold falls off at random, it is ergonomically appalling, and it couldn't suck a feather off a glass top table even when empty. A classic example of marketing-over-function, 'aspirational' b*llshite. I had a £50 Panasonic pull-along thing a couple of years ago, which on full power could lift the carpet clear of the floor in the middle of the room. I managed to leave it at my old place though, doh. Plus the bags were really sturdy so if you had run out you could just empty the contents into the bin and re-use them. The idea of buying a trendy product to use for something as banal as get crap off the floor is bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 That certainly rings a bell. If you want a decent hoover buy a, still british made, Henry hoover. Couldn't agree more. I melted the hose on mine so rang the number, got through to a lady with a nice west country accent (I believe Henrys are made in Chard?) who knew exactly what I was talking about - no part numbers, serial numbers. etc. required - and sent one out for me on next day delivery. It was like being transported back to my idea of what life in the fifties must have been like..... eight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr C Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dyson to me is over priced, noisy, unreliable whilst bieng hideously ugly, Miele blows dyson clean out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbagepatchkid Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Another thumbs up for the Henry from this household. Also, those dyson airblade hand dryers are cr@p. Ineffective, noisy, unhygenic rubbish IMPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 If only he would turn his skills to developing a masturbation machine. There's a fortune to be made by the man who gets that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habeas Domus Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Another +1 for the Henry I did hum and haw about it because the original henrys were all metal and the new ones are plastic, but then they are a lot lighter to carry around and they seem solid enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Possitt Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Don't worry Dyson will create jobs a plenty in Britain for years to come, fixing the bloody things when they break.... Get a "Henry" instead, or better still a "George" that'll shampoo carpets as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthebuilder Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Another member of the Henry fanclub here. The missus went a bought a Dyson and it hasn't seen the light of day after a couple of months use. The Henry has better suction, is more versatile and has a bag to keep all the crap in one place. How annoying is it to have to empty a Dyson into a bag? If you don't and just empty it into the wheelie bin, the next person to throw a bin bag in there gets covered in clouds of dust. The Dyson is an over designed, over advertised, overpriced piece of foreign made tat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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