nuts Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/property/no-fault-evictions-ban-not-go-ahead-full-court-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I thought he wanted to fight the feudal system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuts Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Gove ? ... hmm. I have some dim recollection that he may be less than straightforward in his dealings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Rayner was right in PMQs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Bruce Banner said: Rayner was right in PMQs. Tell us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, NoHPCinTheUK said: Tell us She was saying to Oliver Dingdong that something needed to be done, he said rudely that it would be debated the same afternoon. Waste of time debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Bruce Banner said: She was saying to Oliver Dingdong that something needed to be done, he said rudely that it would be debated the same afternoon. Waste of time debate. Something had to be done about what? XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, NoHPCinTheUK said: Something had to be done about what? XD No fault evictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHPCinTheUK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Bruce Banner said: No fault evictions. The sad thing is that nothing will change. Even with Labour. They’re also a brunch of landlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuts Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 TLDR. basically Gove promised Laura K earlier this year that it (no fault evictions would be banned) in this parliament. now that will officially no longer be the case. It seems that the Conservative party is embarked on a bizarre social experiment to ensure that no young person (the majority of whom can no longer afford to get on the housing ladder) will ever vote for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 37 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: She was saying to Oliver Dingdong that something needed to be done, he said rudely that it would be debated the same afternoon. Waste of time debate. Dowdon spoke with forked tongue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 We are dealing with scum here though. No surprises that this has been kicked into touch. Too many VI leeches to satisfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuts Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, Social Justice League said: We are dealing with scum here though. No surprises that this has been kicked into touch. Too many VI leeches to satisfy. True, but at what point do the Tories just consign themselves to electoral oblivion by doing this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evictee Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, nuts said: TLDR. basically Gove promised Laura K earlier this year that it (no fault evictions would be banned) in this parliament. now that will officially no longer be the case. It seems that the Conservative party is embarked on a bizarre social experiment to ensure that no young person (the majority of whom can no longer afford to get on the housing ladder) will ever vote for them. In Wales where this is a devolved matter and Labour have been in continuous power for 25 years, a ban on no fault evictions isn't even being considered, and we won't see any benefit from Gove's reforms if they ever happen. So don't get your hopes up about all this improving when the dreaded Tories have been swapped out for the other lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewwk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 maybe I'm being naive here, but what is the big deal with no fault evictions? If I own a property, why do I need to give a tenant a reason for asking them to leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 There are more renters than landlords.....when housing unstable, rent costs unstable, children and school unstable, life unstable, hard to plan ahead.......when hard to plan a future that have little or no stake....... no wonder so much anxiety and stress about, drink, drugs, gambling..... https://www.bbc.com/news/health-68884005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, andrewwk said: maybe I'm being naive here, but what is the big deal with no fault evictions? If I own a property, why do I need to give a tenant a reason for asking them to leave? Because of the balance of interests of the two parties For the tenants it is their home, they live there. For the landlord it is a source of (mostly unearned) income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, andrewwk said: maybe I'm being naive here, but what is the big deal with no fault evictions? If I own a property, why do I need to give a tenant a reason for asking them to leave? Suppose similar criticisms I've heard about no fault divorce. It means no chance to delay the process legally to give yourself breathing room (i.e. a chance at least get your ducks in a row and overcome what's about to come..i.e to find alternative accommodation as one example. There should be an improved (or higher threshold) of justification to lose something as basic as the roof over your head. A lot of people can end up on the streets and in many cases never get off them. The only real safety net in this country in these situations is if you have kids in tow, otherwise go get f**ked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Tories gonna Tory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Ap Word Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, msi said: Tories gonna Tory... True. Landed (wannabe) gentry going to be landed gentry. And: politicans going to be politicians. Which is as it has always been. The "difference" is how they (all, no matter what political 'colour') talk good and wallow on in the bad forever. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't talk rubbish. And honestly self seeking politican is better than a dishonest person cut fromt he same cloth. Ah well, in the end, it all makes 0 difference. We are serfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Aidan Ap Word said: Ah well, in the end, it all makes 0 difference. We are serfs. Until the serfs decide they want a new Political landscape and start pushing. Then it'll be wails of 'agitators' and 'terrorists' and 'revolution' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, andrewwk said: maybe I'm being naive here, but what is the big deal with no fault evictions? If I own a property, why do I need to give a tenant a reason for asking them to leave? I agree. I can't see how a landlord can be handcuffed in this way? In the case of social housing the problem doesn't exist, but private landlords aren't lackies for the council! If the landlord wants to sell, if he's had complaints from neighbours, if he wants to move family in? What? 'sorry mate, we know you own it, but that's not allowed'! I must be missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, MarkD said: I agree. I can't see how a landlord can be handcuffed in this way? In the case of social housing the problem doesn't exist, but private landlords aren't lackies for the council! If the landlord wants to sell, if he's had complaints from neighbours, if he wants to move family in? What? 'sorry mate, we know you own it, but that's not allowed'! I must be missing something? Should have thought of that before letting it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 24 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said: Should have thought of that before letting it out! Would that not then encourage the landlord to then smoke his tenants out? ie double the rent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, MarkD said: Would that not then encourage the landlord to then smoke his tenants out? ie double the rent! The easy answer to that sort of attitude would be to ban private buy to let and leave the rental market to professional companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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