Grayphil Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Lucky Larry said: there are many links claiming the opposite so take your pick there is also a video of said car driving around Kyiv so the only dispute is who owns it and how did they fund it So you have once again posted Kremlin lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Grayphil said: So you have once again posted Kremlin lies. getting desperate there Shippers 😂when you can prove the source was the Kremlin get back to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayphil Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Lucky Larry said: getting desperate there Shippers 😂when you can prove the source was the Kremlin get back to me Guess I'm wrong, must have been the illuminati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 22 minutes ago, Grayphil said: Guess I'm wrong, must have been the illuminati The Illuminati is really the Eliminati , they don't illuminate they eliminate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Lucky Larry said: The Illuminati is really the Eliminati , they don't illuminate they eliminate Elimination is exactly what’s happening to Russian meat bags dying for god emperor Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumble bee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, Flat Bear said: I think, looking back several months ago, I got this right. The question now is who is fighting who? It is still the "Ukrainians v the Russians but is this anywhere near correct? I think it is all getting more political and the closely related Ukrainians and the more easterly Russians try and work out what they want and support. Maybe within a year it will be the Free Russia Legion or one of the other several factions that will take over as the main protagonists against Putin's Russia. As Russia becomes poorer and life becomes harder for the Russian people by the day it does not mean that Putin/Kremlin will not stay in power. Many ruthless dictators have stayed in power despite the economic collapse of the country. Russia can only be defeated changed from within. You are finally asking the right question. It took you two years to realize the clear-cut, but it is slowly sinking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, yelims said: Elimination is exactly what’s happening to Russian meat bags dying for god emperor Putin Listen clownshoe millions of people have had their lives destroyed including as many Ukrainians as Russians if not more and your salivating over it like a vulture picking bones , it's perverse . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 41 minutes ago, Lucky Larry said: Listen clownshoe millions of people have had their lives destroyed including as many Ukrainians as Russians if not more and your salivating over it like a vulture picking bones , it's perverse . Have you written a strongly worded letter of complaint to Putin who started this clownshow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Bear Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 38 minutes ago, bumble bee said: You are finally asking the right question. It took you two years to realize the clear-cut, but it is slowly sinking in. Yes It is/will be the Russians fighting the Russians or more precisely the Putin regime (old Russian politburo) against the new Russia made up of those more westernized Russians/Ukrainians other former soviet state peoples. Also to the east those with closer ties and identifying as Chinese or other ethnicity. Times are changing in Russia but it seems this will be a very painful process. I think this is inevitable no matter what happens in Ukraine or in certain places in Russia itself. The iron grip and central control has weakened significantly and control has been lost. We can only sit back and watch all this unfolding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 14 minutes ago, yelims said: Have you written a strongly worded letter of complaint to Putin who started this clownshow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHorseWaits-NoMore Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 51 minutes ago, Flat Bear said: Yes It is/will be the Russians fighting the Russians or more precisely the Putin regime (old Russian politburo) against the new Russia made up of those more westernized Russians/Ukrainians other former soviet state peoples. Also to the east those with closer ties and identifying as Chinese or other ethnicity. Times are changing in Russia but it seems this will be a very painful process. I think this is inevitable no matter what happens in Ukraine or in certain places in Russia itself. The iron grip and central control has weakened significantly and control has been lost. We can only sit back and watch all this unfolding. lol, oh yeah, that's what it is, nailed. Where did this nugget of 'WTF' come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumble bee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Flat Bear said: Yes It is/will be the Russians fighting the Russians or more precisely the Putin regime (old Russian politburo) against the new Russia made up of those more westernized Russians/Ukrainians other former soviet state peoples. Also to the east those with closer ties and identifying as Chinese or other ethnicity. Times are changing in Russia but it seems this will be a very painful process. I think this is inevitable no matter what happens in Ukraine or in certain places in Russia itself. The iron grip and central control has weakened significantly and control has been lost. We can only sit back and watch all this unfolding. Do you mean something like a Color revolution to establish Western-style liberal democracy? Or more like return to Boris Yeltsin's days? But for all your ignorance you are just being forgiven, if you are not possessing up-to-date knowledge, and you haven't seen yet Putin's landslide victory in Russia's presidential vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sta100 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 14 minutes ago, bumble bee said: Do you mean something like a Color revolution to establish Western-style liberal democracy? Or more like return to Boris Yeltsin's days? But for all your ignorance you are just being forgiven, if you are not possessing up-to-date knowledge, and you haven't seen yet Putin's landslide victory in Russia's presidential vote. Russia will eventually become a democracy, don't know when. It's just evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumble bee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 41 minutes ago, sta100 said: Russia will eventually become a democracy, don't know when. It's just evolution. Do you mean a democracy like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya ... BTW why do you think Russia is less democratic than the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sta100 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, bumble bee said: Do you mean a democracy like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya ... BTW why do you think Russia is less democratic than the UK? Nah, like a Western Democracy Because I can call the King and Prime Minister clowns if I want to. See how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 16 minutes ago, bumble bee said: BTW why do you think Russia is less democratic than the UK? Because the UK elect their leaders fairly , well not the King obviously , or all the Lords , ok not the current Prime minister either or the one before that , or the current Foreign Secretary ....... what was the question again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sta100 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, Lucky Larry said: Because the UK elect their leaders fairly , well not the King obviously , or all the Lords , ok not the current Prime minister either or the one before that , or the current Foreign Secretary ....... what was the question again ? Strange that you're free to talk about this isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, sta100 said: Strange that you're free to talk about this isn't it? David Cameron called for the eradication of people who questioned the official version of 9/11 . They are closing down freedoms gradually , they want you to lose all your rights under the ECHR , thats 67m people to lose their rights so they can kick out 30k asylum seekers and idiots fall for it . We're headed down the road to fascism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayphil Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, bumble bee said: Do you mean a democracy like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya ... BTW why do you think Russia is less democratic than the UK? I don't think that Rishi Sunak has spent a career killing people to get into power, then the next 20 years killing any possible challengers to his power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Lucky Larry said: Because the UK elect their leaders fairly , well not the King obviously , or all the Lords , ok not the current Prime minister either or the one before that , or the current Foreign Secretary ....... what was the question again ? If Starmer allegedly gets 90% of the vote for the next quarter of the century the opposition is murdered or in jail,  free press squashed and half a million of us are sacrificed on the whim of a weird Starmer fantasy  then by all means come back and discuss whether our democracy is comparable to Russias lack of democracy  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sta100 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Lucky Larry said: David Cameron called for the eradication of people who questioned the official version of 9/11 . They are closing down freedoms gradually , they want you to lose all your rights under the ECHR , thats 67m people to lose their rights so they can kick out 30k asylum seekers and idiots fall for it . We're headed down the road to fascism Ok well, if you don't like it you can stand in the next election, or take a soap box at hyde park, amongst many other things. Nobody is going to put you in prison, or off you like they would in Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70PC Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, bumble bee said: Do you mean a democracy like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya ... BTW why do you think Russia is less democratic than the UK? The longer one person can stay in power, the more fishy the democratic process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sta100 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Not sure who's been eradicated from questioning the official version of 9/11 yet  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, sta100 said: Ok well, if you don't like it you can stand in the next election, or take a soap box at hyde park, amongst many other things. Nobody is going to put you in prison, or off you like they would in Russia. Tell that to Julian Assange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Larry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, sta100 said: Not sure who's been eradicated from questioning the official version of 9/11 yet  Bill Cooper a US radio show host who warned all his listeners that a terrible terrorist attack on the US was imminent , that they would blame bin Laden and if you believed them you were an idiot 7 weeks before the attacks took place was killed by Police at his home 6 weeks after 9/11. Plenty of others who questioned it have died as well such as Barry Jennings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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