yodigo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Dyson Fury said: No such problems in the EU, of course. https://www.wolftheiss.com/insights/medicine-shortages-in-the-cee-and-see/ That's about all the poor countries in the east, they don't count. Ukraine too, not in the EU. No, no probs in the EU 😇 Fookin Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, debtlessmanc said: But when we try to stop the appalling ecological damaged by bottom trawling, they take us to court https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/04/16/brussels-picks-fight-over-uk-ban-on-sand-eel-fishing i though the EU was all green and dandy? OK then, so in other words Brexit has made us poorer and now putting lives at risk 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, debtlessmanc said: But when we try to stop the appalling ecological damaged by bottom trawling, they take us to court https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/04/16/brussels-picks-fight-over-uk-ban-on-sand-eel-fishing i though the EU was all green and dandy? They "Demand", which is what they're all about. Lovely lot of bullies. following allegations that he was “summoned” to Brussels. https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/saint-lucians-should-not-worry-about-visa-free-travel-to-eu-being-abolished-pm-pierre-assures/ Edited April 18 by yodigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 32 minutes ago, kzb said: Tell you what, just been in Asda, and you can get 6 Duvel Blond (8.5%) for £10. This is a luxury Belgian beer and it must be many years since it was this price. I suspect well before 2016. So cheer up. I am fine, where I am at the moment everything is less than what it is in UK.....perhaps potatoes might be a tad more expensive......far more choice though, freedom and choices matter.....plenty of good dentists and doctors with appointments tomorrow, if finding it hard to find one or one at an affordable price.....home soon, back to reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Freedom of movement may be coming back - albeit limited for the moment.... Brussels proposes return to pre-Brexit mobility for UK and EU young people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/brussels-proposes-return-to-pre-brexit-free-movement-for-uk-and-eu-young-people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) HOW THE HELL DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?? OH YES BREXIT IS DONE BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT A BORDER BUT PLEASE LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!! WTF https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/uk-to-delay-start-of-health-and-safety-checks-on-eu-imports-report UK to delay start of health and safety checks on EU imports – report New post-Brexit border checks ‘set to zero’ to avoid what Defra calls risk of serious disruption https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/04/18/uk-will-not-turn-on-post-brexit-checks-of-eu-goods-for-fear-of-border-delays/ UK will not ‘turn on’ post-Brexit checks of EU goods for fear of border delays Edited April 18 by Dweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Of course they didn't..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68846392 Brexit: Westminster did not tell Stormont about two new EU laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 hours ago, pig said: Freedom of movement may be coming back - albeit limited for the moment.... Brussels proposes return to pre-Brexit mobility for UK and EU young people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/brussels-proposes-return-to-pre-brexit-free-movement-for-uk-and-eu-young-people It’s pretty much the same deal as we have with Australia and France has with Canada. Can’t see Downsides other than U.K. universities lose money on everyone they educate at home fees level so it won’t help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 hours ago, Dweller said: HOW THE HELL DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?? OH YES BREXIT IS DONE BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT A BORDER BUT PLEASE LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!! WTF https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/uk-to-delay-start-of-health-and-safety-checks-on-eu-imports-report UK to delay start of health and safety checks on EU imports – report New post-Brexit border checks ‘set to zero’ to avoid what Defra calls risk of serious disruption https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/04/18/uk-will-not-turn-on-post-brexit-checks-of-eu-goods-for-fear-of-border-delays/ UK will not ‘turn on’ post-Brexit checks of EU goods for fear of border delays They would rather this impact the economy under a Labour administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Bob8 said: They would rather this impact the economy under a Labour administration. This is exactly it. Ignore the elephant Keep up with the Emperor's wonderful clothes until.... Keep up with the pretence that THEY got Brexit done .... Keep up the pretence that this is ever going to work . If people had been able to see years ago just how much this isn't going to work then obviously BREXIT would have been as much on the AGENDA here as it has been in NI. I just LONG for some honesty, to get to see the full picture of what Brexit REALLY means . How much more money is going to get thrown at something that is NEVER going to work not even with the government's world beating border!! :O) HIT HEAD AGAINST WALL ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Dweller said: This is exactly it. Ignore the elephant Keep up with the Emperor's wonderful clothes until.... Keep up with the pretence that THEY got Brexit done .... Keep up the pretence that this is ever going to work . If people had been able to see years ago just how much this isn't going to work then obviously BREXIT would have been as much on the AGENDA here as it has been in NI. I just LONG for some honesty, to get to see the full picture of what Brexit REALLY means . How much more money is going to get thrown at something that is NEVER going to work not even with the government's world beating border!! :O) HIT HEAD AGAINST WALL ... It never was meant to be practical - its more a state of mind. The lead up to Brexit was several years of batsh1t UKIP xenophobia remember Rwanda, dinghy-watching, Mexican border omnishambles and so on. Its a 'wound' created to constantly pick at - would be a terrible loss to those of that ilk if they didn't exist. Well, they'd go and create a new wound. So here we are trying to deal with the impractical self-defeating consequences ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 hours ago, debtlessmanc said: It’s pretty much the same deal as we have with Australia and France has with Canada. Can’t see Downsides other than U.K. universities lose money on everyone they educate at home fees level so it won’t help them. Yes it does look like a good move all round to me - surely will have knock on positive effects on the economy. Great for young people, great in principle we're starting to move toward undoing the damage of cutting ourselves off from Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 hours ago, pig said: Freedom of movement may be coming back - albeit limited for the moment.... Brussels proposes return to pre-Brexit mobility for UK and EU young people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/brussels-proposes-return-to-pre-brexit-free-movement-for-uk-and-eu-young-people Sounds very ageist in this new all are equal society. One for the ECHR I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, yodigo said: Sounds very ageist in this new all are equal society. One for the ECHR I think. No different to Australian working visas for young people only......was it not 'old codgers', who in the main voted us out?.......they had the equal benefits but chose to withdraw freedoms and choice from everyone coming up behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, winkie said: No different to Australian working visas for young people only......was it not 'old codgers', who in the main voted us out?.......they had the equal benefits but chose to withdraw freedoms and choice from everyone coming up behind them. Another one for the ECHR then 😂 The vote wasn't "ageist" though. Everyone got the same. Well, no that's not true. Some still have an easy route to the EU. Loopholes exist for those who want what they deem others can't have. Politicians aren't that silly.🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, yodigo said: Another one for the ECHR then 😂 The vote wasn't "ageist" though. Everyone got the same. Well, no that's not true. Some still have an easy route to the EU. Loopholes exist for those who want what they deem others can't have. Politicians aren't that silly.🙄 Got enough money, spare passports, know those in the know, lawyers that can help, can live almost anywhere..... Brexit was for the wealthy, curtailment on freedoms and choices not affecting them.......look forward to visas next year, no riffraff need apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, winkie said: Got enough money, spare passports, know those in the know, lawyers that can help, can live almost anywhere..... Brexit was for the wealthy, curtailment on freedoms and choices not affecting them.......look forward to visas next year, no riffraff need apply. Depends, don't even need "enough money" or a job if in the right group, certainly not a lawyer 🧐 Not even a dinghy. But that's enough if in certain groups 😀 Edited April 19 by yodigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, yodigo said: Depends, don't even need "enough money" or a job if in the right group, certainly not a lawyer 🧐 Not even a dinghy. But that's enough if in certain groups 😀 Don't have a go at me I didn't vote for it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-eu-entry-exit-system-and-eu-travel-authorisation-system/ Happy days......€113 a day to stay might have to provide proof?..... Found this, don't know how it can be enforced......maybe they have more than enough tourists from all the other EU countries and those that live and work there want to put limits on numbers? https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/holiday/airport/2024/04/04/122741/mallorca-tourism-spain-wants-britons-show-they-have-11340-euros-per-day-for-their-holidays.html Edited April 19 by winkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 16 hours ago, pig said: Freedom of movement may be coming back - albeit limited for the moment.... Brussels proposes return to pre-Brexit mobility for UK and EU young people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/brussels-proposes-return-to-pre-brexit-free-movement-for-uk-and-eu-young-people So the EU wants to change the TCA (for it's own benefit, it can shove their unemployed youngsters over here), but when Sir K said he wanted to change the TCA when it comes up for review in 2025/6(?), guess what, the EU said no. A nice bunch to do business with. Looks like they annoyed him. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/simply-wrong-labour-reject-eu-125958360.html Edited April 19 by yodigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodigo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, winkie said: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-eu-entry-exit-system-and-eu-travel-authorisation-system/ Happy days......€113 a day to stay might have to provide proof?..... Found this, don't know how it can be enforced......maybe they have more than enough tourists from all the other EU countries and those that live and work there want to put limits on numbers? https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/holiday/airport/2024/04/04/122741/mallorca-tourism-spain-wants-britons-show-they-have-11340-euros-per-day-for-their-holidays.html I hope so. Then they'll kill off a significant portion of their income. They can go back to potato farming for all I care. This is just a scaremongering article. It'll never happen, not logistically possible to do. I'm sure the relevant Spanish minister has ruled out these checks. But never trust a politician I guess. Edited April 19 by yodigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, yodigo said: I hope so. Then they'll kill off a significant portion of their income. They can go back to potato farming for all I care. This is just a scaremongering article. It'll never happen, not logistically possible to do. I'm sure the relevant Spanish minister has ruled out these checks. But never trust a politician I guess. I suppose if you lived on an island and many of the homes were being bought by rich foreigners to rent out as holiday lets, born and bred priced out and loud music and drunk people making a nuisance of themselves all hours of the night, congestion on roads, you would want some kind of control and regulation, Brits low hanging fruit......just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, yodigo said: So the EU wants to change the TCA (for it's own benefit, it can shove their unemployed youngsters over here), but when Sir K said he wanted to change the TCA when it comes up for review in 2025/6(?), guess what, the EU said no. A nice bunch to do business with. Looks like they annoyed him. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/simply-wrong-labour-reject-eu-125958360.html Poor lamb - what a strange little victim of furreners you've become lol I guess its clear how UK politics became so deranged, but fingers crossed it can only remain deranged for so long. Fighting over the kipper vote now seems like the proverbial bald men fighting over a comb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 20 hours ago, pig said: Freedom of movement may be coming back - albeit limited for the moment.... Brussels proposes return to pre-Brexit mobility for UK and EU young people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/18/brussels-proposes-return-to-pre-brexit-free-movement-for-uk-and-eu-young-people https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/19/sunak-rejects-offer-of-mobility-scheme-for-young-people-between-eu-and-uk Sunak rejects offer of youth mobility scheme between EU and UK Labour also turns down European Commission’s proposal, which would allow young Britons to live, study and work in EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Something about piss ups in a brewery comes to mind ! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/19/brexit-plans-eu-import-checks-businesses-trade-checks Brexit plans in ‘complete disarray’ as EU import checks delayed, say businesses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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