campervanman Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Strange coincidence. As a family we were caravanning in Belgium in the 70's. My father didn't like France but drove over the border to keep us happy. 300 yards in he spotted a bloke pis**ing in the street, said 'told you so' and headed back to Belgium. Like most other EU countries things have moved on a bit in 40 years unlike in the UK http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/angry-man-posts-pictures-stream-11010129 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Campervanman.... Bennydorm ? Is that part of France too ? My dear dad went to france on a day trip in 1930. He saw a boy p+ssing in the street.....he never went back. Apparently it`s still the same today ! France receives more tourists than any other country in the world. As usual your tiny little bubble world is itrelevant and has no link to reality http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2722863/France-crowned-popular-country-world-record-breaking-number-tourists-UK-lags-eighth-place-beaten-Spain-Italy-Germany.html Stick to Benidorm. France has a reputation to keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
council dweller Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) Well, I`m from Cambridge...we`ve got tourists coming out of our ears. There are also a lot of French people over the last 6 months or so. They are working in local supermarkets. Make of that what you will. Edited May 5, 2016 by council dweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 France receives more tourists than any other country in the world. As usual your tiny little bubble world is itrelevant and has no link to reality http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2722863/France-crowned-popular-country-world-record-breaking-number-tourists-UK-lags-eighth-place-beaten-Spain-Italy-Germany.html Stick to Benidorm. France has a reputation to keep. Last December I was on the beach in Marbella, surrounded by Brits. Today I was on the beach in Antibes, surrounded by Moroccans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo1968 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Last December I was on the beach in Marbella, surrounded by Brits. Today I was on the beach in Antibes, surrounded by Moroccans. Make sure you get back by June the 23rd, in the event of Brexit all planes, ships and tunnels will be closed. Guards will be sat on the beach at Dover turning back swimmers too.......apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Well, I`m from Cambridge...we`ve got tourists coming out of our ears. There are also a lot of French people over the last 6 months or so. They are working in local supermarkets. Make of that what you will. 5 million Brits live abroad. 2.5 million French live abroad. Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Last December I was on the beach in Marbella, surrounded by Brits. Today I was on the beach in Antibes, surrounded by Moroccans. You certainly know which beaches to avoid. I wouldn't want to be on either of those two. PM me and I'll let you know beaches in France and Spain where you won't find any Brits. On the other hand maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Trump comes out for Brexit. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/05/donald-trump-brexit-uk-leaving-european-union Good news for Remain What happened to Marine. lePen? The Leave campaign were trying to get her banned from speaking for Brexit in the UK. Trump should switch off many undecideds from voting Brexit. Who would want to be associated with him other than UKIP supporters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) You certainly know which beaches to avoid. I wouldn't want to be on either of those two. PM me and I'll let you know beaches in France and Spain where you won't find any Brits. On the other hand maybe not. Each to their own. Antibes and Marbella are towns we like to stay in, both have a good selection of beaches, not that we spend much time on the beach. Edited May 6, 2016 by Bruce Banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Trump comes out for Brexit. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/05/donald-trump-brexit-uk-leaving-european-union Good news for Remain What happened to Marine. lePen? The Leave campaign were trying to get her banned from speaking for Brexit in the UK. Trump should switch off many undecideds from voting Brexit. Who would want to be associated with him other than UKIP supporters? Personally, I can't think of anything worse than Clinton as president, so given that there are likely to be only two choices, Trump would have my vote as the lesser of two evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDevil Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Personally, I can't think of anything worse than Clinton as president, so given that there are likely to be only two choices, Trump would have my vote as the lesser of two evils. The only way to get change from the usual dynasty of establishment policitan banker scumbags. Edited May 6, 2016 by GreenDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Yup it`s an illusion ....it`s falling apart even the leaders think so ...best to get out now United Europe ‘an illusion’: Top 3 EU politicians paint grim picture of bloc’s future http://on.rt.com/7bxm Edited May 6, 2016 by long time lurking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) ^ Top 3 EU politicians paint grim picture of bloc’s future Unless everybody else does as they're told by them. Edited May 6, 2016 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Personally, I can't think of anything worse than Clinton as president, so given that there are likely to be only two choices, Trump would have my vote as the lesser of two evils. Brexit have got Trump and Putin rooting for them, says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Brexit have got Trump and Putin rooting for them, says it all really. Both of whom I prefer to Cameron who wants us to remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Trump comes out for Brexit. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/05/donald-trump-brexit-uk-leaving-european-union Good news for Remain What happened to Marine. lePen? The Leave campaign were trying to get her banned from speaking for Brexit in the UK. Trump should switch off many undecideds from voting Brexit. Who would want to be associated with him other than UKIP supporters? Yes given all those Republican candidates it makes you wonder how the American voters got it all so wrong? That's democracy for you, I know a bit of a foreign concept compared to the EU ideal of replacing democratic choices with technocratic choices when it suits and having second referendums to achieve the correct answer second time round. The American GOP have chosen the Donald as they are fed up of the run of the mill also rans who never seem to do anything to improve the lot of the working person in the street. In much the same way that us Brits will make a damn good job of quitting the EU and if we do reach the required level of support to quit then that will open the door to others. People have had enough they want change. Cameron has been banging on since 2010 about stemming immigration, making promises after promises and has done bog all about it..... In the meantime our schools get worse and ques in the NHS get longer. Voters are crying out for change and it only once is a lifetime they will get an opportunity to enact possible change such as June 23rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo1968 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yes given all those Republican candidates it makes you wonder how the American voters got it all so wrong? That's democracy for you, I know a bit of a foreign concept compared to the EU ideal of replacing democratic choices with technocratic choices when it suits and having second referendums to achieve the correct answer second time round. The American GOP have chosen the Donald as they are fed up of the run of the mill also rans who never seem to do anything to improve the lot of the working person in the street. In much the same way that us Brits will make a damn good job of quitting the EU and if we do reach the required level of support to quit then that will open the door to others. People have had enough they want change. Cameron has been banging on since 2010 about stemming immigration, making promises after promises and has done bog all about it..... In the meantime our schools get worse and ques in the NHS get longer. Voters are crying out for change and it only once is a lifetime they will get an opportunity to enact possible change such as June 23rd. The problem as I see it with Trump is that our media only present the outrageous side to him, I am sure that to achieve the following he has, he must be saying something right over there, we just don't hear it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fed_Up Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The problem as I see it with Trump is that our media only present the outrageous side to him, I am sure that to achieve the following he has, he must be saying something right over there, we just don't hear it I've watched a fair few of his speeches and there doesn't seem to be much substance, just the usual vague promises "we're going to fix x" "we're going to win again". Still preferable to Hillary's pandering though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The problem as I see it with Trump is that our media only present the outrageous side to him, I am sure that to achieve the following he has, he must be saying something right over there, we just don't hear it I think he`s saying what the the others dare say ..but it`s exactly what the man on the street are thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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council dweller Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The `in` lot include Blair, Mandelson and Brown. Total scum every one. Putin has at least shown himself to be a force to be reckoned with (Syria).....not just some has been him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) If the London Mayoral election is anything to go by the voters are fed-up with the incumbents (Bullindon Boys in particular). Cameron's days could be numbered, let's kick him out before he has a chance to resign, Osborne too, a Brexit vote should do it. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/05/david-cameron-pigs-head-effigy-lewes-bonfire-night Edited May 6, 2016 by Bruce Banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XswampyX Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yup it`s an illusion ....it`s falling apart even the leaders think so ...best to get out now http://on.rt.com/7bxm We won't have anything to leave at this rate. The European debt crisis is merely slumbering. Greek, Portuguese and Spanish problems are likely to surface in the coming months. But the crisis is also gradually moving closer to the core — Italy and France are particularly vulnerable. Cheap holidays. Yay! Italy and France, quite simply, appear too big to fail. But Italy and France share problems of slow growth, unemployment, poor public finances, and structural inadequacies. Reform has been difficult and the political environment is increasingly challenging. Yeah we all know that.... Gimme some news. Italian total real economy debt (government, household and business) is around 259% of GDP, up 55% since 2007, while France’s equivalent debt is around 280% of GDP, up 66%. This tally ignores unfunded pension and health-care obligations, as well as contingent commitments to euro zone bailouts. Without corrective action, this debt will increase critically — and quickly. France and Italy cannot avoid a financial crisis in an environment of low growth and low inflation. Real GDP growth need would need to be around twice the current projected rates to stabilize and then reduce government debt-to-GDP ratios. The required fiscal adjustment to start reducing government debt is around 2% of GDP, which would reduce growth needed to reduce leverage. A combination of weak economic activity and low inflation is causing Italy’s debt trajectory to spiral upwards, despite austerity and a primary surplus of 2% of GDP. In France, there is no sign that the budget is likely to be in surplus in the near future. The real problem is the lack of competitiveness. Underlying many of these problems is the single currency. Before the 2015 fall in the euro EURUSD, -0.1140% after the European Central Bank introduced negative interest rates and quantitative easing, Italy and France were faced with a 15%-25% overvalued currency. This was compounded by the high leverage to the exchange rate for export competitiveness. Italy has a gearing of over 60% to the exchange rate due to the nature of its exports, compared to around 40% for Germany. Denied the option of devaluation to maintain international competitiveness, both countries have relied increasingly on debt-funded public spending to maintain economic activity and living standards. Yep ******nakered. Source :- http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-italy-and-france-are-not-too-big-to-fail-2016-05-06 Germany = 71% Source :- http://www.tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt-to-gdp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 We've been told that the polling companies have learned lessons from the 2015 GE. Yet in the early hours of today, the polls were confidently putting Sadiq Kahn as being 14/15% ahead of Goldsmith. This afternoon it is announced that he had won by just 9%. That is probably something that will worry the Remain campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 We've been told that the polling companies have learned lessons from the 2015 GE. Yet in the early hours of today, the polls were confidently putting Sadiq Kahn as being 14/15% ahead of Goldsmith. This afternoon it is announced that he had won by just 9%. That is probably something that will worry the Remain campaign! I think this could be due to the demise of the land line phone, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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